Bears, Matt Nagy's lack of identity is No. 1 concern for Bears

[JoJoBoxer]

He sort of already did when he brought in Lazor. Again, he has zero experience outside of the KC offense. The only thing he could do is bring in a guy that does which is why he brought Lazor in.

I am less concerned if he can adjust when the situation isn't ideal and more concerned with can he run his offense when he actually has the pieces in place. There are few coaches who are experts in multiple systems. If you ask McVay to run something other than his system, he is going to struggle. What most of these young guys do is run a single system and try and draft and sign guys that are suited to it. That is a natural consequence of hiring these young whiz kids that don't have the depth of experience that more seasoned coaches have. They are specialists not jacks of all trades like the older guys.

Ok, now he has them.

Now top 15 offense or bust.

 

[MikeDitkaPolishSausage]

Nagy is obsessed with finding mismatches pre-snap. It's fine to do on occasion, but at some point you need your guys to just flatout perform better than the guy across from them. Utilize the players strengths, regardless if there's a mismatch.

Nagy started to do that towards the end of last season before Mitch completely shit the bed the last 2 games.

I think it’s perfectly acceptable to find mismatches pre-snap, but Nagys versions of “mismatches” are laughable. It also doesn’t help we didn’t have the QBs to recognize mismatches

 

[JoJoBoxer]

Identity is a code word for a successful way of winning.

What Nagy is really saying is what have not found a consistent way of winning. Nagy shoulders quite a bit of blame for that.

The Bears had an identity in 2018, their usual identity: Be a really good defense and have the offense not fuck up too much.

That is not a good identity to have when your head coach is supposed to be an offensive genius and your defense is getting older and becoming too expensive to keep.

Now they need to have at least a top 15 offense and an older but still good defense. They also have to add quality, cheap defenders to have the bottom not fall out of the defense soon.

 

[JoJoBoxer]

If he had an uncanny ability to keep the team together and lead then why did they flat out quit in GB and have players loaf throughout the season? I hear this narrative a lot about nagys leadership and don’t think it holds water anymore.

I think they are getting tired of his act.

If he doesn't improve the offense a lot this year, he is going to lose the team ... and his job.

 

[Rob Noxious]

You guys are killing my optimism about Fields. I wish Nagy was required by law to visit each locker and tell the teammates that he is not an offensive genius, and that he’s in way over his head.

 

[modo]

The Bears had an identity in 2018, their usual identity: Be a really good defense and have the offense not fuck up too much.

That is not a good identity to have when your head coach is supposed to be an offensive genius and your defense is getting older and becoming too expensive to keep.

Now they need to have at least a top 15 offense and an older but still good defense. They also have to add quality, cheap defenders to have the bottom not fall out of the defense soon.

Nagy will be on his 3rd and potentially 4th starting QB...

Trubisky was a high pick, Foles was a Superbowl MVP, Dalton is an experienced Pro-bowl winner and Fields is a high draft pick

There are no more excuses. If Nagy does not move the offense forward he should be gone. I am hoping Nagy improves as a playcaller; Anyone can get better.

 

[Mdbearz]

When your QB can hit any deep passes to get the defense to back off, and when your starting OTs are Leno and Maddie, you’re going to struggle running the ball.

Actually, Nagy ran the ball a lot last season given the situation. Sometimes, he probably should have run the ball LESS…

While I am certain that you can identify a situation where Nagy should have thrown the ball instead of run it, overall, there was only 5 teams that had a lower run/pass ratio than the Bears. We attempted 650 passes and 393 runs.

Throwing the ball that many times when it was Trubisky and Foles at QB, and Leno at LT, is even more damning to Nagy's inability to trust the run game.

When Lazor was calling the plays we actually had a fairly balanced attack and we were actually having success in the run game.

 

[iueyedoc]

I think it’s perfectly acceptable to find mismatches pre-snap, but Nagys versions of “mismatches” are laughable. It also doesn’t help we didn’t have the QBs to recognize mismatches

Are you saying a 5'2" 140lb RB running into 6'3" 310lb DL's is shouldn't be a staple of the Bears offense?

 

[MikeDitkaPolishSausage]

Are you saying a 5'2" 140lb RB running into 6'3" 310lb DL's is shouldn't be a staple of the Bears offense?

Cohen would run into a 6’3” 310lb DL standing on the sideline

 

[dabears70]

Pace nailed it again.

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[VickAshley✅️verified]

The Bears had an identity in 2018, their usual identity: Be a really good defense and have the offense not fuck up too much.

That is not a good identity to have when your head coach is supposed to be an offensive genius and your defense is getting older and becoming too expensive to keep.

Now they need to have at least a top 15 offense and an older but still good defense. They also have to add quality, cheap defenders to have the bottom not fall out of the defense soon.

The bears identity is literally completely on Matt Nagy and the devil is literally inside the details which are in my opinion as follows: 1. He wants to celebrate being himselve and others to be themselfs with his "be YOU" mantra and this is evidenced in how he is comfortable wearing a visor all of the time even though he is bald and it is sort of a silly "look" in my opinion. 2. Offensive gadgetry - he likes to make splashy types of plays and he is hoping that this starts to work eventually so the bears can score more often with that style rather than conventional styles of scoring and winning and he is proud of this as we have all seen his poker room inside his house that is literally wall-to-wall wall-papered with his play calling sheets. 3. Club Dub is something he does so players can express themselfs through dancing and celebrating and all of the diversity and uniqueness that all entails so hopefully players want to win more often so they can show off all of their moves in front of each other rather than pouting about bad playing that resulted in a losing situation for the team.

To me that is all good stuff but sort of assing in back-wards because execution of scoring plays and winning should be the first focus and then all of the flair that comes from players as individuals and the celebration of themselves should be secondary because football is a team sport and you can't go to the big dance by dancing after games especially if you lose and don't get to dance because club dub is closed due to losing!

 

[ThatGuyRyan]

Matt "Cover Band" Nagy

2 words that about sum him up
Nothing new and performed significantly worse than the original.

 

[Anytime23]

Pace nailed it again.

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Tired shtick is tired.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

Tired shtick is tired.

Uh oh. He's about to meme you, while dreaming of getting pegged by pace

 

[ThatGuyRyan]

Uh oh. He's about to meme you, while dreaming of getting pegged by pace

Should start calling him cream pie

 

[Brownie]

I don't want us to go to the extreme that Fox played the run game, but Nagy is scared shtless when it come to trusting the run game. If he can put the right people on the field for the situation and lean on the run game, then that will be a huge improvement.

I think he's any impatient playcaller. He totally goes away from the run all too often, and you hope it's to set something up eventually, but eventually rarely comes. He wants explosive plays so bad that strategy and playing to our strengths goes all the way out the window. And then the ONE thing he is always talking about needing to get better at - scoring more points - never ever happens.

The book is def out that we won't use Montgomery enough, or even when we should to just run some time off the clock and wear the other team down. It's like having a decent Big man in the paint but the guards don't give him the ball enough.

I hope they also finally figure out the proper run blocking scheme. I remember Olin Kruetz saying that what they run is NOT what Heistand OR Castillo taught, in his experience. Watching those TTNL replays week after week gave me PTSD. They either haven't been running a scheme that fit their personnel on the line, or needed a serious upgrade. Hope they figure out both.

 

[Visionman]

While I am certain that you can identify a situation where Nagy should have thrown the ball instead of run it, overall, there was only 5 teams that had a lower run/pass ratio than the Bears. We attempted 650 passes and 393 runs.

Throwing the ball that many times when it was Trubisky and Foles at QB, and Leno at LT, is even more damning to Nagy's inability to trust the run game.

When Lazor was calling the plays we actually had a fairly balanced attack and we were actually having success in the run game.

It’s not the number, but what those passes were. We couldn’t stretch the defense deep, so had to try to stretch them wide.

But even at that, your stat is misleading. A full 2/3 of the league passed the ball 55% of the time or more. The Bears came in at just under 61%.

 

[SugarWalls]

Bears definitely have an identity under Nagy: 4-1 pass to run ratio and 3 and out. Oh, no touchdowns in the first half as well.

 

[Mdbearz]

It’s not the number, but what those passes were. We couldn’t stretch the defense deep, so had to try to stretch them wide.

But even at that, your stat is misleading. A full 2/3 of the league passed the ball 55% of the time or more. The Bears came in at just under 61%.

There is nothing misleading about being 27th in the League in Pass/Run ratio. 83% of the League ran the football more than we did.

Not sure why you are using 55% as a measure, perhaps the League average of 58% might have been a better one to make your argument with. Even in that case we are still at the bottom of the league no matter how you want to slice it.

 

[Anytime23]

who would run the ball when you have a passing attack that potent?