Bears not attending Kaepernick workout

[iueyedoc]

Not sure what you are looking at. In the 3 year look, his passing numbers are comparable but he has almost double the yards per game. So all told, he was a better overall QB than Trubs. The larger issue of course being the disparity is even more drastic this year because Trubs isn't running while Kap will run regardless of whether the D is spying him.

So what you have now is a dual threat QB in Kap vs Pocket Passing Trubs who is absolutely terrible if he is not using his feet.

For a guy whose job relies on understanding numbers, your in ability to even see them correctly is astonishing. In what world is 195.3 Y/G almost double 200.2 Y/G

 

[ChiGuy]

I’d be against Kap, personally. However, you have to do your due diligence here & it’s not a good look either.

This is mainly on the league as it’s short notice etc, but you have to send someone.

 

[iueyedoc]

I looked again to try and figure out WTF point your addled mind was trying to make. Best I can figure is you were trying to point to CK's not even close to double additional 15.5 yards rushing per game. If so, you have to be kidding LOLOLOLOLOL.

Oh and how about just ignore the fact that CK took 116 sacks to MTs 77, almost double by your math, putting his offense behind the sticks something like 7 times as often.

 

[LetsGo34]

Matt Nagy calls Colin Kaepernick ‘a weapon,’ but won’t say if Bears will attend workout

Read more here>>>>https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/...a-chicago-bears-matt-nagy-mitch-trubisky-2019
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Not being at this workout is b.s.

Christ Almighty, this is exactly what Nagy needs....more gadget players. This dumb **** will probably convince Pace to sign him so he can run 2-3 wildcat plays a week.

 

[iueyedoc]

Lmao who wants him on the Bears, are u creating ur own talking points.....lol brief success...the mfer had 3 surgeries in ur figuring out years., not to mention a garbage coach thing that lasted one season and a Chip Kelly moment....try learning context it helps.

Also nice cheery pick trying to make useless point

Oh so now injuries and bad coaching and play calling are excuses for Colin Kaepernick's shit play, too bad MT doesn't have similar issues to make excuses . And good think he won't still have that rod in his leg or be playing for a bad offensive playcaller if he would come to the Bears, oh wait...

And how do you not see CK's success as brief. He had a season and a half of decent play when aided by the 2012 #2 Defense and 2013 #3 Defense. But let's ignore his near identical play his last 3 seasons to the guy currently getting flayed now in Chicago and point to 23 games, 6-7 years ago which are significantly worse than that same shit QB everyone wants to ditch.

Seriously, CK's cherry picked shining NFL moment was significantly worse than MT's last season in every single category other than INT's.


IMO, this was CK's kneeling brilliance. He took 1.5 seasons of mediocre play followed by 3 seasons near bottom barrel and made the world ignore it with his Wizard of Oz don't look behind the curtain display.

Now half of CCS thinks he is some football messiah bigotedly cast out and want him to replace a guy that last season matched his heyday in every way and is only 6 starts removed from that level not 6 years.

He is a modern day PT Barnum proving his famous quote, "there is a fool born every minute."

 

[Bear_Assed]

Why is anyone upset about this? The front office has already proven they don’t how to evaluate Quarterbacks

agreed.

it should also be noted that just because the bears weren’t on the list yet doesn’t mean they’re 100% not going. We’ll find out today or tomorrow

 

[mbison]

Oh so now injuries and bad coaching and play calling are excuses for Colin Kaepernick's shit play, too bad MT doesn't have similar issues to make excuses . And good think he won't still have that rod in his leg or be playing for a bad offensive playcaller if he would come to the Bears, oh wait...

And how do you not see CK's success as brief. He had a season and a half of decent play when aided by the 2012 #2 Defense and 2013 #3 Defense. But let's ignore his near identical play his last 3 seasons to the guy currently getting flayed now in Chicago and point to 23 games, 6-7 years ago which are significantly worse than that same shit QB everyone wants to ditch.

Seriously, CK's cherry picked shining NFL moment was significantly worse than MT's last season in every single category other than INT's.
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IMO, this was CK's kneeling brilliance. He took 1.5 seasons of mediocre play followed by 3 seasons near bottom barrel and made the world ignore it with his Wizard of Oz don't look behind the curtain display.

Now half of CCS thinks he is some football messiah bigotedly cast out and want him to replace a guy that last season matched his heyday in every way and is only 6 starts removed from that level not 6 years.

He is a modern day PT Barnum proving his famous quote, "there is a fool born every minute."

You are still avoiding showing his QBR and his ranking. lol. You are clearly doing this because that would destroy your foolish argument that Kap wasn’t good duel threat QB that was clutch in the playoffs

 

[iueyedoc]

You are still avoiding showing his QBR and his ranking. lol. You are clearly doing this because that would destroy your arguement

QBR sucks ass it has Kirk Cousins Derek Carr Matt Stafford and Ryan Fitzpatrick above Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers and has Dak Prescott #1 in the NFL ahead of Wilson, Mahomes, and Jackson.

 

[didshereallysaythat]

For a guy whose job relies on understanding numbers, your in ability to even see them correctly is astonishing. In what world is 195.3 Y/G almost double 200.2 Y/GView attachment 3777

I think he had a typo and meant to say his rushing number were almost double.

 

[didshereallysaythat]

Oh so now injuries and bad coaching and play calling are excuses for Colin Kaepernick's shit play, too bad MT doesn't have similar issues to make excuses . And good think he won't still have that rod in his leg or be playing for a bad offensive playcaller if he would come to the Bears, oh wait...

And how do you not see CK's success as brief. He had a season and a half of decent play when aided by the 2012 #2 Defense and 2013 #3 Defense. But let's ignore his near identical play his last 3 seasons to the guy currently getting flayed now in Chicago and point to 23 games, 6-7 years ago which are significantly worse than that same shit QB everyone wants to ditch.

Seriously, CK's cherry picked shining NFL moment was significantly worse than MT's last season in every single category other than INT's.
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IMO, this was CK's kneeling brilliance. He took 1.5 seasons of mediocre play followed by 3 seasons near bottom barrel and made the world ignore it with his Wizard of Oz don't look behind the curtain display.

Now half of CCS thinks he is some football messiah bigotedly cast out and want him to replace a guy that last season matched his heyday in every way and is only 6 starts removed from that level not 6 years.

He is a modern day PT Barnum proving his famous quote, "there is a fool born every minute."

I agree with your overall theme. And if we make excuses for Colin having a bad coach and team around him, then you can make those same excuses for Mitch.

The only thing I disagree with is taking a look at Colin because it is simply due diligence and we obviously need to get better at the position. Most likely, it won't be Colin either but it doesn't cost anything for some scouts to spend a days worth of analysis finding that out.

 

[iueyedoc]

I think he had a typo and meant to say his rushing number were almost double.

I think I figured that out later. Yet he still think 72% is nearly double, that 15 yards rushing per game is a game changing difference between CK and MT and that sacks don't count.

 

[iueyedoc]

I agree with your overall theme. And if we make excuses for Colin having a bad coach and team around him, then you can make those same excuses for Mitch.

The only thing I disagree with is taking a look at Colin because it is simply due diligence and we obviously need to get better at the position. Most likely, it won't be Colin either but it doesn't cost anything for some scouts to spend a days worth of analysis finding that out.

They are going to send tape to all the teams so not sure how kowtowing to the league office as they put on there "look and see we are inclusive" dog and pony show matters. You at most have a scout that would rave about him, so then the GM would watch the tape and have to decide if a 3 years without play, mediocre in his prime, likely huge distraction would be even a modest upgrade in team play. That ignores all the issues he would create.

I think they add honest competition in the offseason, my bet Marcus Mariotta, and/or a top 4 rd QB. Either route is much more likely to be fruitful than CK.

 

[didshereallysaythat]

What is interesting is if they are going to do measurables today like in the combine.

They are going to send tape to all the teams so not sure how kowtowing to the league office as they put on there "look and see we are inclusive" dog and pony show matters. You at most have a scout that would rave about him, so then the GM would watch the tape and have to decide if a 3 years without play, mediocre in his prime, likely huge distraction would be even a modest upgrade in team play. That ignores all the issues he would create.

I think they add honest competition in the offseason, my bet Marcus Mariotta, and/or a top 4 rd QB. Either route is much more likely to be fruitful than CK.

Oh, I would take Mariota over CK as well. That wouldn't be until next year though.

The thing that is kinda pissing me off though is it just appears that the Bears are so worried about coddling to Mitch and trying to hide they are actively looking to get better at the position. If he is that fragile that he will just emotionally break at the mere thought of getting replaced, then I am sorry but he is not mentally made up to be a QB. They were talking about this on the score last night and I agree with it.

 

[mbison]

QBR sucks ass it has Kirk Cousins Derek Carr Matt Stafford and Ryan Fitzpatrick above Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers and has Dak Prescott #1 in the NFL ahead of Wilson, Mahomes, and Jackson.

No QBR does not suck ass for a DUEL threat QB.
Lamar Jackson right now is tied for League MVP voting by most. Guess what. He’s ranked 3rd QBR and 20th in passing rating. So based on your logic Lamar sucks because he’s not the best pocket passer right? Do you see how flawed your argument is now?

If the Bears has Kaps production right now we would be a Super Bowl contender. Easily.

 

[Leon Sandcastle]

Kap sucks. Why would the Bears want him. Just to add another shitty qb to make the dumb fans happy

 

[Bearly]

Why do you keep ignoring Kaps QBR? You seem to be going way out of your way to dis credit him but you keep avoiding his QBR. No one is saying he’s a prolific passer but he was an unstoppable QB (especially in the playoffs) for 3 years. Cam Newton won an MVP with a 58 percentage completion but guess how high his QBR was??

Kap was top 7 for 3 years.

and Mitch was 3rd in QBR last year.

I'm not discrediting him and any meaningful way. He's just not a few things I like in QBs. Like Mitch, he's not a leader nor good at reads. Do the Bears need to bring in what could possibly be more distention to the ranks. I have no problem with Kap myself but will that be the case with everyone in the locker room? Point is that even if he's better than what we have, he's not special, not young, not the guy for this O and not assured of putting the team ahead of his own concerns.

Like I've already said, I like his causes and his charity but he is who he is and that's not always being a team guy. Also restructuring his 49ers contract was really dumb. Lots of lost money he could have used for his causes and he couldn't have been in a more accepting city.

Kap has become a dichotomy of social justice and injustice and people are conflating there view on that with his football acumen. I am not. I like where his heart is at but just don't think he'd be the answer for this team at this time.

 

[Chicago Staleys]

Trubisky has been terrible for 3 years. Bigger waste of time.

This has nothing to do with Trubisky. Point is Kap sucks so why try to fill a position with someone who can’t get the job done. It’s simple math.

 

[Bearly]

I agree with your overall theme. And if we make excuses for Colin having a bad coach and team around him, then you can make those same excuses for Mitch.

The only thing I disagree with is taking a look at Colin because it is simply due diligence and we obviously need to get better at the position. Most likely, it won't be Colin either but it doesn't cost anything for some scouts to spend a days worth of analysis finding that out.

Watching a workout won't tell you anything about his reads. I'm sure he still has his chops. His career completion % is 59%. and never varied more than a few points form that either way in any season. The same people that (justifiably) complain about Mitch's inaccuracy are stumping for this guy. WTF?

 

[iueyedoc]

No QBR does not suck ass for a DUEL threat QB.
Lamar Jackson right now is tied for League MVP voting by most. Guess what. He’s ranked 3rd QBR and 20th in passing rating. So based on your logic Lamar sucks because he’s not the best pocket passer right? Do you see how flawed your argument is now?

If the Bears has Kaps production right now we would be a Super Bowl contender. Easily.

Unfucking believable. I was going to explain how Nagy has coached running out of his QB. And explain how Lamar Jackson and CK are nothing alike, but then you hit me with "Kaps production right now we would be a Super Bowl contender. Easily."
that stands on its own as the stupidest argument made since this CK issue resurfaced. In fact it is Tom Brady 6 x SB champion GOAT level championship stupid.

 

[Jack Lantern]

to replace a guy that last season matched his heyday in every way and is only 6 starts removed from that level not 6 years.

He is a modern day PT Barnum proving his famous quote, "there is a fool born every minute."

The stance for any Bear fan these days is "anybody but Mitch..."