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Yes.
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O.k. First it is almost 100 years old. It can only be remodeled so many times. It the smallest stadium in the NFL and it is in the third largest market. It will never attract a Super Bowl although that this is not important to many. The club level is too small; the concession lines clog up the place. Getting in and out is difficult. The field itself has sucked for decades. For whatever reason, no one seems interested in changing it.
If it were such a great stadium why are the Bears (likely) moving to Arlington? Why did the city of Chicago propose this Chicago Unveils $2.2B Domed Soldier Field Plan to Keep Bears ?
I'm not saying it isn't historical or lacks charm. I'm not saying it is a sh*t-hole. I am saying that it has served Chicago and the Bears well but the team and the fan base deserve state of the art.
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I only have a moment so I will point out the one big thing you are missing, the Bears impending move has nothing to do with the fans or the team on the field. The McCaskeys, not Ginny, have never cared about the fans, the money generated at the new stadium will not increase what the Bears spend on players. This is all about making the Bears more valuable for sale, that is it. Got to get to work now, thanks for the response...
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Got a short break, let me deal with your issues. Soldiers Field was built in 3 phases starting 1922, so parts of it are 101 years old. Stadium size means nothing, if the Bears built the biggest stadium in the NFL, holding over 110,000, only 1 out of every 100 people in the Chicago Metro would be able to see a game, but because of season ticket holders actually only one out of a thousand could see a single game. Super Bowl doesn't matter, only a handful of locals go, I live in AZ we just hosted the Super Bowl, tickets were $5,000 and up, hotel rooms were starting at $500 a night (three night min). Club Level, I go to watch football. Access to the Phx stadium is terrible, after a game I just wait an hour before trying to get out, then it still takes a half hour to get out. When I go to a Bears game in Chicago I just take a taxi. The lines at the concession stands in Phx at Cardinals games are ridiculous and there are few vendors in the stands, yet the Cardinals fans are not clamoring for a new stadium. The turf at Soldiers Field meets or exceeds all NFL standards, and both teams play on the same field. Plus, the most fun I have had watching a football game was the rain bowl against S.F. last season, with the worst field conditions ever. So what exactly is not state of the art? Again, thanks for your reply.
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We weren’t talking about other stadiums. We are talking about Soldier Field. The club level issue at SF is that the aisles are clogged and it can be difficult getting to your seats. Not a huge issue but one that shouldn’t exist on a club level. it was just an example I gave. I don’t know what AZ having a Super Bowl has to do with SF. But hosting a SB is good economically for a city and Chicago isn’t eligible with SF. The turf at SF has been a much discussed issue for years regardless of standards.
Taking a taxi to a Bears game is easy but it is almost impossible to get one out.
I don’t know how you’re enjoying a watching a rain game on tv relates to the stadium? Watch the video of the city’s proposal I linked if you want to see state of the art. This really isn’t a puzzle and I don’t have a dog in this fight. But obviously the Bears aren’t happy with their present stadium. I guess they are wrong, too.
Edit: For the record, I prefer the present location and I like the stadium.
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With Bears now as owner, value of Arlington Park land raised sixfold by Cook County Assessor
There is no word on how the valuation would impact stadium development.
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I understand why people would want to keep Soldier as it relates to nostalgia. But just from a logical standpoint, it’s time to move on to a better gameday experience.
When you go to NFL games in other cities, it becomes clear just how antiquated the whole gameday experience is at Soldier, from the traffic to lack of entrances/exits, to the cramped confines, to the lack of amenities, et cetera. Other cities—much smaller cities—have incredibly fun gameday experiences with state of the art architecture, technology and amenities. I think a lot of Bears fans don’t know what they’re missing.
Bears fans are some of the most passionate in the league, and Chicago is the biggest city in the U.S. that has only one NFL team.
Soldier has been fun, but fans deserve better at this point.
When you go to NFL games in other cities, it becomes clear just how antiquated the whole gameday experience is at Soldier, from the traffic to lack of entrances/exits, to the cramped confines, to the lack of amenities, et cetera. Other cities—much smaller cities—have incredibly fun gameday experiences with state of the art architecture, technology and amenities. I think a lot of Bears fans don’t know what they’re missing.
Bears fans are some of the most passionate in the league, and Chicago is the biggest city in the U.S. that has only one NFL team.
Soldier has been fun, but fans deserve better at this point.
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What a totally classless city Shitcago is, raising the property taxes on Arlington Park before the Bears even break ground. Corruption at its finest.....
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I saw the rough design concepts the city put out, if the city leadership had the balls 5 years ago to get aggressive on a redesign for the stadium, maybe this all could have been avoided. I work in Civil Engineering and I really liked a lot of the ideas in the design. They would be hell to build but it could be done. My gut feel is the McCaskeys do want to sell, and owning property for a stadium or a stadium and associated entertainment district in the burbs will increase the value of the Bears. My lament is that in my mind Chicago and the Bears are one in the same, when the Bears move on, so will I. I am just hoping the current rebuild sticks and the Bears play good football before they move. When they move. It will be over for me.
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Chicago doesn’t control property taxes in Arlington Heights.
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Lamblow over ScoFi. Guy has to be a fudge fan2nd worst on USA Today's list for stadiums ahead of only the Commie's FedEx Field. Antiquated sounds accurate to me.
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You don't find a new team. That is what seemingly a lot of fans do, some change to the next winning team that catches their eye. I watched Butkus and Sayers play in Wrigley, I can not tell you how, but those two players got under my skin and the die was cast. I didn't pick the Bears, they picked me. I will watch the Arlington Bears, but as a casual NFL viewer not as a loyal fan. The Chicago Bears will be gone. My family moved to AZ in the 70s, I ended up going to ASU, my plan was to move back to the Midwest after graduation, but I married a local girl and have lived in AZ since. The Cardinals moved here in the 80s and I still can't call myself a fan after 40 years. Have a great day! Go Bears!
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Actually it does. Arlington Heights somehow snuck out from under the ignominy of being in a collar county by virtue of being out on that Cook County bootheel sticking out west of O'Hare. The city still strongarms county politics, which is only one of the many reasons that this stadium venture is a political nightmare.
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No, in fact Chicago does not set property taxes in Arlington Heights.
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He doesn't even know where Arlington heights is. As far as he knows it is somewhere between downstate and western IL.
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You should look up who assesses the taxable value of property in Cook County. Hint: its not the municipality.
So the county very literally does "set" the taxes.