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If this is their system you can almost count on it being a joke in a year or two. The Bears' approach is guys pretending to be data scientists using analytics.
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I get what you're saying - Bears should be doing everything in their power to build around Fields so they can actually assess him. Because, as you said, we know he can run.
I disagree with the fact that you're acting like this is some 11th hour crisis for the Bears like a Daniel Jones type situation. Fields just finished his 2nd year lol. Personally, think Poles with have his answer on Fields at the end of 2023.
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Keep in mind, the common complaint about Nagy was not adjusting his scheme to fit his players...so now we're excited about only finding players that fit our scheme? Seems like a lot of talent would be instantly excluded.
Sorry, putting scheme over talent seems like a loser to me.
Sorry, putting scheme over talent seems like a loser to me.
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Imagine thinking that a guard signed for $10 mil per year isn't an upgrade to one of the worst lines in football last year.
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Fair point, but it's not the entire offensive scheme, just the blocking scheme. Nagy refused to use Fields' running ability, and at a time, did the same with Trubisky. Getsy used that to his advantage and we all saw the results, even with a shitty line.
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Yes, when nothing else worked, Getsy let JF run.
Brilliant!!
As a result, what do we know about Justin Fields the passer?
Not much.
Newsflash Luke, this isn't Aaron Rodgers your working with, you actually have to "develop" JF.
I am not sure how running for his life is part of his development.
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Have you ever said anything worthwhile?
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We ended up with the No 1 pick and 100m in cap.
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Adding to this: the outside zone blocking scheme would mean you're looking for more of a specific type of back as well, which is perhaps one reason we let Montgomery go in favor of a guy like Foreman.
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Which became...
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- #61 overall pick in 2023
- First round pick in 2024
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Except of course the Bears metrics on Jones seems to be aligned with what 3rd party sites say as they are content with him starting.
Of course teams will have their own analytics and data but the reality is most of the team these guys are never as bad as fans claim. Fans tend to turn on players and then imagine everything they do is bad. Case in point Leno still is finding work and is considered an adequate LT in NFL circles.
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We will see. You say they are content with him starting. Let's see how that pans out - not just this season, but next as well.
I bet he's a swing tackle by the start of the 2024 regular season.
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dAta scIentIstS usIng ANALyitics duuurrrr
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Changing a scheme for your franchise QB is very different than doing so for a single OL that has to work in tandem with 4 other OL.
Further, most of the time the plays are already part of a scheme and it is just a question of calling plays that fit what a QB does best.
So you go away from the outside zone to accomodate Brown but then the other 4 OL are better in an outside zone so how is that going to work? Makes no sense.
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Sorry but it is better.
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No. No he hasn't.
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I’m pretty sure that this is the exact opposite of Belichik and his system. He’s always going to find guys that fit his system.
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And you pissed away both......
Last time Bears had the #9 pick, they drafted Leonard Floyd. Did not make it to a second contract. Then again, not many Bears first rounders do. You got a very good, not great WR.
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Same MO. When it was Sewell or Jonah Jackson, Nc0g would project they improve in their 2nd years. When it is Jenkins and Jones, they will not improve.
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