Bears Team Philosophy

[Hawkeye OG]

I think we need to give it some time. I'm not going to make any judgements for at least another year, maybe two.

Wait - you're not going to make a judgement on Claypool after being traded midseason to a new team for *checks notes* 7 games, 3 starts and a 48% snap count?

 

[nc0gnet0]

I think we need to give it some time. I'm not going to make any judgements for at least another year, maybe two.

That's fair, but there is a time and a place for Stop Gaps, even if they don't necessarily fit into the long term plans.

 

[Nelly]

Wait - you're not going to make a judgement on Claypool after being traded midseason to a new team for *checks notes* 7 games, 3 starts and a 48% snap count?

One snap where he didn't catch a pass is enough to judge a bear accurately, since all Bears players suck automatically.

Meanwhile, it's fair to say that Penei Sewell is still developing to become the ultra-uber-stud tackle he's destined to be.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

I'd like the approach more if I was sold on Eberflus lol. Conceptually, the process makes sense. Will take some time to test it.

One of the guys on the Score's afternoon show put it this way: "the honeymoon phase is over, but compared to other GMs the Bears have had, I listen to Poles and I get it, and think I can trust him."

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Wait - you're not going to make a judgement on Claypool after being traded midseason to a new team for *checks notes* 7 games, 3 starts and a 48% snap count?

bUt bAKer mAYFIELD!!!!!

 

[JoJoBoxer]

Big money = shortcuts? WTF does that mean?

I mean a guy is good and deserves to be paid…. Or he’s not. ?‍

Just a guess, but maybe it means that if they leave no stone unturned, they will find someone who is cheaper who is almost as good as an expensive option and if they end up paying big money they didn't find someone cheaper because they took shortcuts?

Thus, the whole staff was sleeping when they took Edmunds?

I don't know, confusing.

 

[KoreanBear]

And how did this collaborative effort work out last year?
How did it work out on the trade for Claypool?
Proof is in the pudding.

When you type stuff like this, is it the Bears fan in you that's genuinely worried for the franchise?
Or is it the lions fan in you trolling?

What is your ratio in fandom? is it like 60:40, 75:25?

 

[JoJoBoxer]

That's fair, but there is a time and a place for Stop Gaps, even if they don't necessarily fit into the long term plans.

That can easily come after the draft when other teams are dumping their vets to make room for their rookies. Their will also be interesting cuts around the start of training camp, not ideal timing but can fill a spot or two.

 

[nc0gnet0]

That can easily come after the draft when other teams are dumping their vets to make room for their rookies. Their will also be interesting cuts around the start of training camp, not ideal timing but can fill a spot or two.

Fair enough but soon Poles will need to decide if he is going to exercise JF's 5th year option, and giving him an at least competent O-Line to work behind would help. And if it doesn't fit your "scheme", change your scheme. Because what ever "scheme" they trotted out on the field last year was a massive fail. Can you imagine how anemic the Bears O is, if JF's isn't a scrambling fool?

 

[JoJoBoxer]

Fair enough but soon Poles will need to decide if he is going to exercise JF's 5th year option, and giving him an at least competent O-Line to work behind would help. And if it doesn't fit your "scheme", change your scheme. Because what ever "scheme" they trotted out on the field last year was a massive fail. Can you imagine how anemic the Bears O is, if JF's isn't a scrambling fool?

No, they can improve the all around situation to improve the team. For whatever it is worth, they are tied to Getsy and the outside zone scheme.

So, they need players to match that scheme.

They already have Braxton Jones and the RG they got from the Titans who are perfect fits, as long as Braxton builds up his strength. Ja'Tyre Carter has all of the athletic requirements and a whole year to build up his strength. They have Lucas Patrick who came from Green Bay along with Getsy to play the center position, but basically never did, who should, at worst, be the backup at C. Teven Jenkins can fit the scheme, is a beast but is also an injury risk. The only spot that is 100% not filled is RT.

RT can be filled with the 9th pick such as with Paris Johnson Jr who can be an insurance policy for Braxton, a later round RT, after the draft with a vet RT or even with Jenkins moving to RT.

I also believe that C will be addressed in the draft to at least bring in competition, if not the opening day starter.

As for Fields, I believe that the 5th year option is a given, unless he gets a major injury. He has shown enough to be valuable to another team, even if the Bears decide to draft a QB in 2024. That 5th year will get much more draft capital for the Bears if there is a trade, which I hope doesn't happen.

I am not too worried about the offensive line, beyond the usual growing pains of one or two rookies getting up to speed. Not every team has a ton of 1st round picks on their offensive lines. Offensive lines need cohesiveness more than they need 3 or 4 1st round linemen. The Bears had multiple lines throughout the year, thus, very little cohesiveness.

Fields will be part of the running game, even if it is just the threat of him running. With a better offensive line (which they already are better than 2022), better receivers (check) and better TEs (check), the Bears will be a better passing team and rushing team.

The more Fields progresses, the better both will be.

 

[Mighty Joe Young]

Chemistry = 9 wins boyz

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The TenToNoon Crew....

 

[nc0gnet0]

No, they can improve the all around situation to improve the team. For whatever it is worth, they are tied to Getsy and the outside zone scheme.

So, they need players to match that scheme.

They already have Braxton Jones and the RG they got from the Titans who are perfect fits, as long as Braxton builds up his strength. Ja'Tyre Carter has all of the athletic requirements and a whole year to build up his strength. They have Lucas Patrick who came from Green Bay along with Getsy to play the center position, but basically never did, who should, at worst, be the backup at C. Teven Jenkins can fit the scheme, is a beast but is also an injury risk. The only spot that is 100% not filled is RT.

RT can be filled with the 9th pick such as with Paris Johnson Jr who can be an insurance policy for Braxton, a later round RT, after the draft with a vet RT or even with Jenkins moving to RT.

I also believe that C will be addressed in the draft to at least bring in competition, if not the opening day starter.

As for Fields, I believe that the 5th year option is a given, unless he gets a major injury. He has shown enough to be valuable to another team, even if the Bears decide to draft a QB in 2024. That 5th year will get much more draft capital for the Bears if there is a trade, which I hope doesn't happen.

I am not too worried about the offensive line, beyond the usual growing pains of one or two rookies getting up to speed. Not every team has a ton of 1st round picks on their offensive lines. Offensive lines need cohesiveness more than they need 3 or 4 1st round linemen. The Bears had multiple lines throughout the year, thus, very little cohesiveness.

Fields will be part of the running game, even if it is just the threat of him running. With a better offensive line (which they already are better than 2022), better receivers (check) and better TEs (check), the Bears will be a better passing team and rushing team.

The more Fields progresses, the better both will be.

Braxton Jones ceiling is Charles Leno.
Whitehair is coming off his worst year, and on the downward slope of his carrier.
Jenkins is an injury waiting to happen.
Davis is meh.
Depth?

 

[redgrange19]

Bears are heading in the right direction, 4 picks in the top 64 will allow them to build in the trenches before the season begins and free agency/camp cuts aren't even close to being finished. Nate Davis is an upgrade on the interior, and either Whitehair/Patrick right now are better than the worst center of our lifetime Mustipher. This rebuild isn't a one year fix, but it's heading in the right direction. The Bears should be way more competitive than last season (which honestly, they had no business being in most of those games) and the off-season has just begun.

 

[redgrange19]

Braxton Jones ceiling is Charles Leno.
Whitehair is coming off his worst year, and on the downward slope of his carrier.
Jenkins is an injury waiting to happen.
Davis is meh.
Depth?

Glad you decided everything is finite with a 5th round rookie from Southern Utah that improved as the season went on. He certainly won't improve with conditioning and an NFL offseason, that's never actually happened before. Whitehair, sure I'll give you. He will likely compete for center with Patrick and a rookie I'm assuming? Jenkins could be injury prone, but he might not also be? He's had some shit luck. Davis is an upgrade on the interior, league average or slightly above is fine. I think it's obvious the line will be addressed in the draft and there could be depth signings still to come in FA.

 

[nc0gnet0]

Glad you decided everything is finite with a 5th round rookie from Southern Utah that improved as the season went on. He certainly won't improve with conditioning and an NFL offseason, that's never actually happened before. Whitehair, sure I'll give you. He will likely compete for center with Patrick and a rookie I'm assuming? Jenkins could be injury prone, but he might not also be? He's had some shit luck. Davis is an upgrade on the interior, league average or slightly above is fine. I think it's obvious the line will be addressed in the draft and there could be depth signings still to come in FA.

If's but's and nuts. To date, the Bears O-line is not any better than it was in 2022. The point is, it should have been a focus, not paying top dollar for a LB'er.

 

[redgrange19]

If's but's and nuts. To date, the Bears O-line is not any better than it was in 2022. The point is, it should have been a focus, not paying top dollar for a LB'er.

It's better by subtracting Mutsipher, alone. I doubt there's a worse center in the entire NFL. But yeah, obviously they should have made a move and overpaid Ben Powers, or even Orlando Brown. Those are two that most would have been fine with. Opposing fans would then bash the Bears for overpaying, so whatever. We just have to trust the process. The off-season is far from over.

 

[Bearly]

And how did this collaborative effort work out last year?
How did it work out on the trade for Claypool?
Proof is in the pudding.

Said like an annoying recurring rash.

 

[Myk]

BPA is BS. Got it.
BPTFSTHBP best player to fit a scheme that hasn't been proven. Make the players fit the scheme works so well.

 

[playthrough2001]

And how did this collaborative effort work out last year?
How did it work out on the trade for Claypool?
Proof is in the pudding.

How’s their plan working? It seems like yesterday!

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[JoJoBoxer]

Braxton Jones ceiling is Charles Leno.
Whitehair is coming off his worst year, and on the downward slope of his carrier.
Jenkins is an injury waiting to happen.
Davis is meh.
Depth?

Wrong!!!

Braxton Jones ceiling is all pro LT. Now his chances of getting there is low, but he already is better than Leno ever was with the Bear.

Did you notice that I never mentioned Whitehair?

Yes, Jenkins is a worry.

No, Davis is a solid pickup that perfectly matches the scheme. Again, not every team can suck year after year, allowing them to get top 10 players every single year, most often top 5. Sometimes, solid is good enough.