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Guy definitely doesnt have donuts on the brane
Best Doughnuts in Chicago/suburbs
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I had a friend that ran the place up until a few years ago. Every summer my buddies and I would get wasted at Oktoberfest across the street, and then she would bring us to Keans after hours, let us in, and spoil us with a few boxes of goodies that she saved for us before she locked up. Good times.
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You are seriously pathetic. Imagine adding even less to a thread than your idol Ommy.
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In the high tech world engineers and programers are considered overhead and easily replaceable. If you really want to impact a company then sell things. Engineers and programmers are too dense to understand this, so management makes them fetch the donuts
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Ommy has his job down pat....... “ welcome to Wal-Mart’s....need a cart?”
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In the high tech world engineers and programers are considered overhead and easily replaceable. If you really want to impact a company then sell things. Engineers and programmers are too dense to understand this, so management makes them fetch the donuts
Bwahahahahaha
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I know, I know.
Seriously, the Old Fashioned and the Glazed here are the best.
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In a free market, people are paid for the VALUE of their services. Engineers and programmers are paid a lot less than salespeople because the sales skills are deemed to have more value. In my case it was 3-5 times as much. You can disparage me all you want but the marketplace is the final arbitrator.
Mo money, mo money
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I am sure that math worked in the 50s, Old Top.
Imagine thinking people still buy things from people in 2019.
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Still current today. The best sales people still make 3-4 times more than the best engineers. Just a fact.
The best sales people are wildly recruited. Software programmers like Tardigrade and easily replaceable by Indian programmers at half the price. His breed is nearly dead and I'm sure he is concerned that he will be canned every day for a lower priced, better programmer
I have run huge teams of sales and technical types and know more about this than anyone here
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Fascinating.
You were not even able to sell me on a simple doughnut in this very thread.
Was there a time that using half-century old visual aids and calling your target audience "bitches" actually worked?
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The only thing you ever created is currently in you diaper.
Seriously, in the tech industries they have stopped hiring/using salesmen, they bring nothing to the table. If you don't have engineering degree why are you even here? If you don't know, at the very least, as much as the customer you are a liability.
Your former career, much like your ideas, are obsolete
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This is why you are a fucking idiot. The tech industry is frantically hiring new reps and offering the best reps even bigger packages
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They are hiring guys with engineering degrees to be Sales Engineers. There is no place for a guy that knows less than the customers on a sales call. You are living in the past, now ask them to change your diaper.
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Again, why you are a fucking idiot. The highest paid sales reps are NOT engineers. In fact, when hiring sales reps you dont want someone too invested in the bits and bytes of the technology because then they know little about the actual selling
You have never run a high powered sales and engagement team, never created a $700M deal from scratch, hired some of the best sales talent in the world or made over $500k multiple times. I have so stop pretending you know this subject and fucken sie offen as the Germans would say
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You have been out of work for what 20 years? There is no way you would want a guy that knows less than the customer trying to sell. I remember years ago they would drag around useless dinosaurs like you, because that the way it's done, companies have wised up since then.
I'm not a sales engineer, I purchase equipment from them, if they don't have the technological chops the meeting is over. Why the hell would I waste my time talking about oscilloscopes with a used car salesman or Herb Tarlek?
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Retired 2 years ago cause I didnt need mo moneyYou have been out of work for what 20 years? There is no way you would want a guy that knows less than the customer trying to sell. I remember years ago they would drag around useless dinosaurs like you, because that the way it's done, companies have wised up since then.
I'm not a sales engineer, I purchase equipment from them, if they don't have the technological chops the meeting is over. Why the hell would I waste my time talking about oscilloscopes with a used car salesman or Herb Tarlek?
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Maybe it's different in the software industry, customers take the word of a guy with no knowledge of the product. In my industry is sure as hell does not work that way.
Can you imagine buying something expensive from a guy that doesn't even know how his own product works?
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No one in sales is over the age of 50 anymore, mostly because old dogs have an issue learning new tricks.
51 is exactly right, any dotard can hammer out a sales pitch and deal, but if you don't even understand what service you're selling, I have no interest in talking to you.
Sorry pops, the rolodex days have long past. Networking is cake now, sales guys are donezo. Welcome to the internet!
51 is exactly right, any dotard can hammer out a sales pitch and deal, but if you don't even understand what service you're selling, I have no interest in talking to you.
Sorry pops, the rolodex days have long past. Networking is cake now, sales guys are donezo. Welcome to the internet!
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