Best Doughnuts in Chicago/suburbs

[Xuder O'Clam]

Salesmen are the scourge of captalism. They produce and create nothing, which is why the only accomplishment they can brag about is money. And usually so dull because of it, that when they retire with loads of cash, they spend 16 hours a day on a message board bragging to randos about their ca$h.

Dull and jaded.

 

[HeHateMe]

Imagine thinking you are still the shit and lording it over ppl on the internet after you've retired, in a donut thread. Wtf is wrong with someone who does something like that?

 

[Omeletpants]

No one in sales is over the age of 50 anymore, mostly because old dogs have an issue learning new tricks.

51 is exactly right, any dotard can hammer out a sales pitch and deal, but if you don't even understand what service you're selling, I have no interest in talking to you.

Sorry pops, the rolodex days have long past. Networking is cake now, sales guys are donezo. Welcome to the internet!

More idiot talk. There is a move to hire more 50+ reps because of the changing demographics of baby boomer managers as they age. Sales is more than hammering out a pitch. Probably the low level selling you are used to. A $700M deal is about change management within the enterprise and how to effect it. That includes painting a complex vision, mobilizing numerous technologies and resources that impact many divisions within a company. You have never done this so you dont understand the complexity and time involved. It's really over the head of typical engineers

 

[Novak]

Sales is more than hammering out a pitch. Probably the low level selling you are used to. A $700M deal is about change management within the enterprise and how to effect it. That includes painting a complex vision, mobilizing numerous technologies and resources that impact many divisions within a company.

You just made a pitch to me about how sales is about more than making a pitch, while breaking down what "making a pitch" entails.

This is awesome.

 

[Xuder O'Clam]

Imagine thinking you are still the shit and lording it over ppl on the internet after you've retired, in a donut thread. Wtf is wrong with someone who does something like that?

lmao

 

[Omeletpants]

Maybe it's different in the software industry, customers take the word of a guy with no knowledge of the product. In my industry is sure as hell does not work that way.

Can you imagine buying something expensive from a guy that doesn't even know how his own product works?

Selling enterprise level systems requires a functional knowledge of the technology but more importantly the value to the enterprise

Tell you a little story: years ago the largest farm implement company was embarking on an SAP initiative where they wopuld spend 1 billion dollars and change the company. IBM brought thier engineers in and talked bits and bytes. I took a different tact and brought in a top level exec from my company that implemented SAP for our company. Instead of talking engineering tech features we talked about what truly impacted him: how do you change the direction for 40,000 employees, spend a billion dollars and not get fired in the process. So, I guessed that "change management" was most important to him. We took the opposite path of IBM and pitched helping them manage change. The customer Exec said it was the finest vendor meeting of his carrer. I got a $10M starter order in a week

That's how you do it bitches.

 

[HeHateMe]

Selling enterprise level systems requires a functional knowledge of the technology but more importantly the value to the enterprise

Tell you a little story: years ago the largest farm implement company was embarking on an SAP initiative where they wopuld spend 1 billion dollars and change the company. IBM brought thier engineers in and talked bits and bytes. I took a different tact and brought in a top level exec from my company that implemented SAP for our company. Instead of talking engineering tech features we talked about what truly impacted him: how do you change the direction for 40,000 employees, spend a billion dollars and not get fired in the process. So, I guessed that "change management" was most important to him. We took the opposite path of IBM and pitched helping them manage change. The customer Exec said it was the finest vendor meeting of his carrer. I got a $10M starter order in a week

That's how you do it bitches.

You should make a thread about your top sales campaigns and how people who arent in sales are losers. then people who want to talk about donuts in Chicagoland will have a place to do that.

Thanks.

 

[Xuder O'Clam]

riveting stuff, almost as entertaining as talking about guitar performances from 40+ years ago, repeatedly

 

[number51]

Продажа систем уровня предприятия требует функционального знания технологии, но, что более важно, ценности для предприятия

Расскажу небольшую историю: несколько лет назад крупнейшая компания по внедрению сельскохозяйственной продукции начала реализацию инициативы SAP, в рамках которой они потратили бы 1 миллиард долларов и сменили компанию. IBM привлекла своих инженеров и рассказала о битах и байтах. Я выбрал другой такт и привел руководителя высшего звена из моей компании, которая внедрила SAP для нашей компании. Вместо того, чтобы говорить о технических технических особенностях, мы поговорили о том, что действительно повлияло на него: как вы измените направление для 40 000 сотрудников, потратите миллиард долларов и не будете уволены. Итак, я догадался, что «управление изменениями» было для него наиболее важным. Мы выбрали противоположный путь IBM и помогли им справиться с изменениями. Exec клиента сказал, что это была самая лучшая встреча продавца его carrer. Я получил стартовый заказ на 10 миллионов долларов в неделю

Вот как ты это делаешь, суки.

Соси член старика.

 

[Penny Traitor]

Tell you a little story: years ago the largest farm implement company was embarking on an SAP initiative where they wopuld spend 1 billion dollars and change the company. IBM brought thier engineers in and talked bits and bytes. I took a different tact and brought in a top level exec from my company that implemented SAP for our company. Instead of talking engineering tech features we talked about what truly impacted him

What kind of doughnuts you were going to go fetch???

 

[Omeletpants]

What kind of doughnuts you were going to go fetch???

I make the engineers on my team do that

 

[zack54attack]

I know, I know.

Seriously, the Old Fashioned and the Glazed here are the best.

Great place. Stopped by there Saturday morning around 8 but didn't open till 9:30 so I went somewhere else.

 

[zack54attack]

For fucks sake, can 1 fuckin' thread stay on topic on this site? Seriously.

 

[Novak]

For fucks sake, can 1 fuckin' thread stay on topic on this site? Seriously.

:thinking:

 

[Penny Traitor]

For fucks sake, can 1 fuckin' thread stay on topic on this site?

The ones about sex crimes seem to do just fine. Just work more sex crimes into your threads going forward.

Until then....

[video=youtube_share;GMWkJ_twmdU]https://youtu.be/GMWkJ_twmdU[/video]

 

[Omeletpants]

It's like a Mods convention here tonight. All we need is Urblock an we will have them all

 

[zack54attack]

It's like a Mods convention here tonight. All we need is Urblock an we will have them all

Don't expect doughnuts at the mod convention.

 

[Spunky Porkstacker]

Great place. Stopped by there Saturday morning around 8 but didn't open till 9:30 so I went somewhere else.

Seems a later opening than most, losing out on some business.

 

[zack54attack]

Seems a later opening than most, losing out on some business.

Exactly my thoughts. Opens earlier during the week for commuters and such. But figured it would be open early on weekends too.

 

[HeHateMe]

Exactly my thoughts. Opens earlier during the week for commuters and such. But figured it would be open early on weekends too.

Sleep in on weekends u psycho!