Best thing about being a Duggar

[Mitchapalooza]

"Everyone on welfare is a lazy bum" - everyone I know.

Douchers.

 

[WCL]

I would like to add that my mother was on welfare with my sister and I. And I went to college with scholarships and loans and was taught to be self sufficient and that the wold doesn't owe me shit and if I want something I have to work for it and excuses don't pay the bills.

And if it wasn't for welfare, who knows what would have happened with a family of three probably becoming homeless and starving and losing any chance at an opportunity to better themselves. We ate government cheese and used food stamps at the grocery and lived in government assisted housing. Now my mom is a registered nurse working with doctors without borders, I work at a university, and my sister works for a state representative.

So maybe you should watch your fucking mouth when you take a stance of shitting on compassion, like there is something wrong with helping your fellow man when they are down. Despite whatever privileges you or anyone else may or may not have, bad shit happens to good people.

Oh, but I guess you were probably referring to those other kind of people that are on welfare.

 

[KittiesKorner]

good for you, bot. #hattipped

 

[botfly10]

good for my moms. fuckin warrior

Also, had a middle class background so understood the opportunities that come with education and we're white so opportunities never really went all the way away

#StillPrivledgedEvenOnDaWelfare

 

[brett05]

#worstthrread2014

 

[Omeletpants]

Brett05 is the worst poster ever

signed,

The Duggars

 

[DrGonzo]

To be clear, a SIGNIFICANT MAJORITY of welfare recipients are working class WHITE women with pre-school aged kids who get left by deadbeat dads. They can't earn enough to cover the essentials AND daycare if they work. They get on welfare long enough to get back on their feet and then they get back off it again. Sorry it that interferes with anyone's free market ideology, but facts are facts.

> Sorry to inject race into this thread but it's always a subtext when talking about welfare anyway

> Again, the majority have used AFDC as intended - a temporary safety net - then got off. Yes, there are people who try to game the system, but benefits have been slashed and disincentives put in place so even if you want to just live off the gubment it's no picnic, and in many cases you have to work some shit job to justify getting a check at all. I think in most cases a woman with two kids gets something like $600/month? (plus foodstamps and whatever else might be available).

> It used to be that maybe by temporarily getting on AFDC these families could avoid homelessness, but the benefits have been slashed to the point where they likely also need to try for public housing (thanks Clinton). The wait list for a mom with kids and a section 8 voucher in most places is so long as to effectively take that benefit away also.

 

[brett05]

Brett05 is the worst poster ever

signed,

The Duggars

And it continues....lol #clueless

 

[Nail Polish]

There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with welfare, for those who need it

The problem is the abuse of the system by those who dont need it and rape the system because they choose not to work. No matter what race or ethnicity they are

 

[DrGonzo]

There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with welfare, for those who need it

The problem is the abuse of the system by those who dont need it and rape the system because they choose not to work. No matter what race or ethnicity they are

It's an insignificant problem that conservative wingnuts harangue the country about, in order to distract us from dealing with real problems. Your use of the word "rape" in this context is a perfect example of this.

 

[Nail Polish]

It's an insignificant problem that conservative wingnuts harangue the country about, in order to distract us from dealing with real problems. Your use of the word "rape" in this context is a perfect example of this.

Whoa...Are you saying welfare abuse doesnt exist?

Thats crazy

S/S disability is being abused as well

and its NOT insignificant, no matter what party is in power

 

[WCL]

Whoa...Are you saying welfare abuse doesnt exist?

Thats crazy

S/S disability is being abused as well

and its NOT insignificant, no matter what party is in power

He said that it's insignificant. How did you read that as "He's saying that it doesn't exist."?

And the number of cases that are fraud are less than 1%, so it is insignificant.

Most people who are on SSI Disability are disabled, and most people who are on welfare work for a living.

 

[DrGonzo]

Whoa...Are you saying welfare abuse doesnt exist?

Thats crazy

S/S disability is being abused as well

and its NOT insignificant, no matter what party is in power

Of course you know I didn't say it doesn't exist and you admit as much by later noting I said it was insignificant. Try to be honest when arguing, and not misrepresent what other people say in order to inflate your arguments - fewer people will detest you.

Welfare fraud numbers are hard to pin down, but the number is somewhere between .5 & 4% of the total spent. One (very) conservative website estimated the total at $9 - $13.5 billion in 2012.

http://www.roanen.com/presidential-thoughts-blog/how-much-is-welfare-fraud-costing-us

Meanwhile, fortune 500 companies evading taxes are costing American taxpayers about ten times as much. Reuters, that well know bastion of liberalism, puts the figure at about $90 billion/year.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/05/us-usa-tax-avoidance-idUSKBN0EG22D20140605

If your objective is to cut taxes, or lower the deficit, or both, who are you going to target?

Highly profitable US based multinationals spend many millions to elect representatives from both parties, who are there to look the other way. And many additional millions on PR, which they employ like a jedi mind trick to confuse weak minded people like you. Fortunately or unfortunately, welfare cheats don't hire PR firms and so it is easy to see their chump change fraud as an urgent problem needing our attention, while the powerful rob us blind and laugh in our faces. (Yes, I said a few billion is chump change. I know this will enrage your feeble mind and cause you to splutter away. I'm okay with it).

 

[WCL]

Of course you know I didn't say it doesn't exist and you admit as much by later noting I said it was insignificant. Try to be honest when arguing, and not misrepresent what other people say in order to inflate your arguments - fewer people will detest you.

Welfare fraud numbers are hard to pin down, but the number is somewhere between .5 & 4% of the total spent. One (very) conservative website estimated the total at $9 - $13.5 billion in 2012.

http://www.roanen.com/presidential-thoughts-blog/how-much-is-welfare-fraud-costing-us

Meanwhile, fortune 500 companies evading taxes are costing American taxpayers about ten times as much. Reuters, that well know bastion of conservatism, puts the figure at about $90 billion/year.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/05/us-usa-tax-avoidance-idUSKBN0EG22D20140605

If your objective is to cut taxes, or lower the deficit, or both, who are you going to target?

Highly profitable US based multinationals spend many millions to elect representatives from both parties, who are there to look the other way. And many additional millions on PR, which they employ like a jedi mind trick to confuse weak minded people like you. Fortunately or unfortunately, welfare cheats don't hire PR firms and so it is easy to see their chump change fraud as an urgent problem needing our attention, while the powerful rob us blind and laugh in our faces. (Yes, I said a few billion is chump change. I know this will enrage your feeble mind and cause you to splutter away. I'm okay with it).

We need to add "People who receive government assistance" to the list on the left.

 

[botfly10]

Of course you know I didn't say it doesn't exist and you admit as much by later noting I said it was insignificant. Try to be honest when arguing, and not misrepresent what other people say in order to inflate your arguments - fewer people will detest you.

Welfare fraud numbers are hard to pin down, but the number is somewhere between .5 & 4% of the total spent. One (very) conservative website estimated the total at $9 - $13.5 billion in 2012.

http://www.roanen.com/presidential-thoughts-blog/how-much-is-welfare-fraud-costing-us

Meanwhile, fortune 500 companies evading taxes are costing American taxpayers about ten times as much. Reuters, that well know bastion of liberalism, puts the figure at about $90 billion/year.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/05/us-usa-tax-avoidance-idUSKBN0EG22D20140605

If your objective is to cut taxes, or lower the deficit, or both, who are you going to target?

Highly profitable US based multinationals spend many millions to elect representatives from both parties, who are there to look the other way. And many additional millions on PR, which they employ like a jedi mind trick to confuse weak minded people like you. Fortunately or unfortunately, welfare cheats don't hire PR firms and so it is easy to see their chump change fraud as an urgent problem needing our attention, while the powerful rob us blind and laugh in our faces. (Yes, I said a few billion is chump change. I know this will enrage your feeble mind and cause you to splutter away. I'm okay with it).

bbud will post some lame I know you are but what am I bullshit, but dis fight is over.

 

[Hbkrusso]

I would like to add that my mother was on welfare with my sister and I. And I went to college with scholarships and loans and was taught to be self sufficient and that the wold doesn't owe me shit and if I want something I have to work for it and excuses don't pay the bills.

And if it wasn't for welfare, who knows what would have happened with a family of three probably becoming homeless and starving and losing any chance at an opportunity to better themselves. We ate government cheese and used food stamps at the grocery and lived in government assisted housing. Now my mom is a registered nurse working with doctors without borders, I work at a university, and my sister works for a state representative.

So maybe you should watch your fucking mouth when you take a stance of shitting on compassion, like there is something wrong with helping your fellow man when they are down. Despite whatever privileges you or anyone else may or may not have, bad shit happens to good people.

Oh, but I guess you were probably referring to those other kind of people that are on welfare.

my mother also used the welfare system too help her I have zero problem with deserving people getting help bro. I grew up dirt ass fuckin poor man with a single mother raising me who had no education she worked two minimum wage jobs trying to support us and we moved a lot from one shit trailor park to another because the bills were two much yes we received aid but also I went out mowed grass shoveled snow did whatever I could to help out. I know about growin up hard man lookin back I feel the shit made me stronger even if im an uneducated fuckin caveman

 

[Nail Polish]

He said that it's insignificant. How did you read that as "He's saying that it doesn't exist."?

And the number of cases that are fraud are less than 1%, so it is insignificant.

Most people who are on SSI Disability are disabled, and most people who are on welfare work for a living.

insignificant is 1% above doesnt exist

Even the Government admits abuse in S/S D and welfare exists, and it isnt insignificant

 

[Omeletpants]

This is a Duggar's thread shitheads. Take your little welfare whining elsewhere. Bitches!

 

[Nail Polish]

This is a Duggar's thread shitheads. Take your little welfare whining elsewhere. Bitches!

We need welfare Ommy..We just dont need the abuse..Lotta good people down on their luck need compassion

 

[SilenceS]

Don't use words you don't understand.

Good talk