Big Z is back in the baseball!

[KBisBack!]

you really need to remove that dark cloud over your head, life is too short to worry about what a baseball team does or doesnt do as much as you seem to do...

You really need to stick to your day job at the drive thru and save the CrackerJack box psychiatry for somewhere else.

 

[Icculus]

Bears forum is still the worst, though not as bad since the purported raghead, ghetto trash, anti-Semite got kicked out. Hard for me to expect much from a Cubs board

 

[KBisBack!]

What if his day job is Psychiatrist?
!

Then he sucks at his job.

This has become the worst forum on CCS, and it wouldn't have happened without your efforts. Congrats!

I have seen you provide little more than whining, crying and trolling most of my posts.

Maybe if you made an effort to provide more productive content to the forum it would be improved.

Take some personal responsibility instead of blaming everyone else.

 

[nwfisch]

No, you are not following. The forum was fine until you and the other refugees showed up like babies tossed into the CCS dumpster. The problem isn't that the forum is in need of more productive content...the problem is that the content you provide is mind-numbingly terrible in its presentation. As I said before, we already have enough officers in the CCS Semantical Police Force...we don't need more.

Yeah, as much as I like to joke around with people who support Theo, the same topics are so old and stupid, that the Cubs forum will eventually die a slow painful death, until the MLB team seriously starts competing again.

 

[KBisBack!]

Its like the forum was invaded/infected by the spirit of "Boers & Bernstein"..."We are Cubs fans who hate everything about the team and can't stand all this unexpected losing and everyone here sucks!"

Clearly your close-mindedness is only interested in hearing what a great job Theo and Co and doing and everyone should just ignore the shit team on the field for the second straight season because just maybe we will have a good team in five years.

#theospankfest

 

[Franko725]

Glad to hear that Z is getting another chance to make it back to the big leagues. I loved the guy, but he is a major headcase. I still do not understand people complaining about the trade. The Cubs were not going to let Z back in the locker room. They found a team that was willing to take him and give something back. Obviously Volstad did not pan out, but it was at least worth a shot to see if he could be worth a damn. As bad as the team was last year, I can only imagine what it would have been like to have a guy like Z tearing apart the team even more.

 

[mountsalami]

Glad to hear that Z is getting another chance to make it back to the big leagues. I loved the guy, but he is a major headcase. I still do not understand people complaining about the trade. The Cubs were not going to let Z back in the locker room. They found a team that was willing to take him and give something back. Obviously Volstad did not pan out, but it was at least worth a shot to see if he could be worth a damn. As bad as the team was last year, I can only imagine what it would have been like to have a guy like Z tearing apart the team even more.

You are correct. We may have only lost 98 games with him on the roster with the rest of the team all sporting black eyes.

I would have just played him at third base and had him pitch every fifth start. He may have struck out 300 times and hit 35 home runs.

Would have still been an improvement over what was brought in.

 

[KBisBack!]

I would expect the people who have been Cubs fans for over 35 years to have a bit more patience. I'm not ready to pass judgement on Epstein after 1.25 seasons. I don't understand the irate tone of your postings...yeah, the Cubs suck, but who didn't expect that? Teams suck when they are in rebuilding mode. Kind of what happens in sports sometimes.

No one should expect 100 losses or be happy with that result.

And I don't by into the 'rebuilding mode'.

That is a con job by owners to allow them to make more money and appease part of the fanbase into accepting less than acceptable results.

Sadly it works.

 

[KBisBack!]

Obviously Volstad did not pan out, but it was at least worth a shot to see if he could be worth a damn.

it would have been worth a shot had the Marlins paid any of Z's salary, but they didn't.

The slurpers whine and cry and moan about how bad Soriano is for the money he is being paid but then turn right around and say it is ok to have gotten like what?, 3-13 with an over 6.00 ERA??

 

[Franko725]

it would have been worth a shot had the Marlins paid any of Z's salary, but they didn't.

The slurpers whine and cry and moan about how bad Soriano is for the money he is being paid but then turn right around and say it is ok to have gotten like what?, 3-13 with an over 6.00 ERA??

Where on earth did I say that what Volstad put up last year was okay? It wasn't, but they traded away a guy that they did not want around anymore for someone that "might" pan out to be something. He didn't.

Soriano's contract on the other hand is still a plague on the roster. He is not what he used to be. They paid him yearly in this contract for what he had done in the past, instead of what he would likely do in the future. Let's see in a few years how the Pujols and Hamilton contracts look for LAA when they are on the decline.

 

[chibears55]

Let's see in a few years how the Pujols and Hamilton contracts look for LAA when they are on the decline.

angels will be regretting what they gave pujols if they dont win a WS or two..

his first 2 yrs of contract not bad at 12mil and 16 mil but it balloons from there along with his age..

age 34-37 he will make 23,24,25, and 26 mil each yr.. age 38-41 27,28,29,30 MIL each yr

thats alot of dough at that age to hope he still cranking 30 hr and 100rbis from age 37-41

his OPS has already taken a huge drop since the start of last yr..

then after all this he still has a 10 yr 10 mil per contract for personal services.. lmao

 

[The Bandit]

My uncles the one that texted me that this happened, text was so funny. "Phils suck, signed Zambrano to a minor league deal." my response "hahahahah have fun with that basketcase"

 

[KBisBack!]

Where on earth did I say that what Volstad put up last year was okay? It wasn't, but they traded away a guy that they did not want around anymore for someone that "might" pan out to be something. He didn't.

Soriano's contract on the other hand is still a plague on the roster.

Thanks for proving my point.

You excuse away the money spent on Volstad and turn right around with a ridiculous comment regarding Soriano's contract.

Soriano was the best player on the team last year.

$18M is not, and never was, a plague on the roster.

The $40M a year cut off the payroll in the name of rebuilding is 1,000 times the plague on the roster.

 

[KBisBack!]

angels will be regretting what they gave pujols if they dont win a WS or two..

No they won't. Not for a second.

The HUGE TV deal they signed, helped majorly by the signing of Pujols, probably pays for both him AND Hamilton.

The problem with the Angels this year is not that they spent money, much to the disappointed of the brainwashed who don't really pay attention. The Angels are struggling this year because they have no pitching, even before injuries struck.

Their ace, Jered Weaver has made two starts this year.

They have already had to use nine different starters this year, and it appears they made a significant error thinking like message board geeks and thinking they could get equal production out of cheaper pitchers than Ervin Santana and Dan Haren after they missed out on Zack Greinke. I wouldn't be surprised if their plan hadn't been to sign both Hamilton and Greinke. Not that Greinke would have been much help so far this year. But their payroll is only at $127M. They definitely have room to add payroll.

The FA class was slim and Greinke was the only really good pitcher available.

Sadly their season is probably already done their start was so bad. But at least they tried rather than throwing away a season and still have a very talented team that another top of the rotation starter would make very, very dangerous.

 

[Franko725]

Thanks for proving my point.

You excuse away the money spent on Volstad and turn right around with a ridiculous comment regarding Soriano's contract.

Soriano was the best player on the team last year.

$18M is not, and never was, a plague on the roster.

The $40M a year cut off the payroll in the name of rebuilding is 1,000 times the plague on the roster.

Way to cherry pick what you wanted out of my comments, instead of quoting the whole post...agenda anyone?

Zambrano's contract was spent money. They did not want him anymore. They traded for the one guy that they could get, from the one team that would take Z. So, would you rather they have just paid Z to go away, or try to get a player out of him that might turn into something? I would say the same thing about Marmol this year, but you likely wouldn't understand the concept.

Soriano's contract would have freed up 18 million to spend on the type of player that you would like the Cubs to go after, but you don't seem to like to see that either.

As for dropping the payroll by 40 million, I suppose that I again have to point out that is on the owners...

 

[Franko725]

Oh, and I suppose that based on your math, the 18 million to an aging player well past his prime is only 450 times the plague on the roster.

 

[KBisBack!]

Way to cherry pick what you wanted out of my comments, instead of quoting the whole post...agenda anyone?

No agenda.

Just the rest of your whining wasn't relevant.

Zambrano's contract was spent money.

Guess what?

So is Soriano's.

But again you excuse away the one and whine about the other.

They did not want him anymore. They traded for the one guy that they could get, from the one team that would take Z. So, would you rather they have just paid Z to go away, or try to get a player out of him that might turn into something? I would say the same thing about Marmol this year, but you likely wouldn't understand the concept.

Um, yeah.

I said at the time of the trade that sending Zambrano home and paying him his money would be better for the team than having Volstad pitch. No revisionist history here.

Soriano's contract would have freed up 18 million to spend on the type of player that you would like the Cubs to go after, but you don't seem to like to see that either.

As for dropping the payroll by 40 million, I suppose that I again have to point out that is on the owners...

I suppose I have to point out yet again that I blame the owners as much as I blame the spankfest. Like I have said before, there is enough suckiness going on to blame everyone.

Here is another tip for you. You can have more than 1 player make $18M a season. You don't have to get rid of one to get another, you can have BOTH.

But regardless of the payroll, the Cubs management have not done a good job with the resources at hand.

 

[KBisBack!]

Oh, and I suppose that based on your math, the 18 million to an aging player well past his prime is only 450 times the plague on the roster.

Not when the player was the best player on the team last year.

Whoops.

 

[patg006]

No, you are not following. The forum was fine until you and the other refugees showed up like babies tossed into the CCS dumpster. The problem isn't that the forum is in need of more productive content...the problem is that the content you provide is mind-numbingly terrible in its presentation. As I said before, we already have enough officers in the CCS Semantical Police Force...we don't need more.

If you dont want more semantics police--how about you stop nit-picking every single thing we "refugees" do......

 

[patg006]

Its like the forum was invaded/infected by the spirit of "Boers & Bernstein"..."We are Cubs fans who hate everything about the team and can't stand all this unexpected losing and everyone here sucks!"

Not at all--I rather enjoy it here. Were not all doom and gloom......none of us want to see the team lose. But once again, our agreed stance gets misconstrued that we think this team could have done more to fix its issues......

I'm happy Rizzo is hot. I hope he stays that way, so do the rest of the "naysayers." I hope hes the player everyone is assuming he is after a sample size of less than a year at the ML level in a cubs uniform.

We hope the prospects pan out; however, history shows that that these guys are like lottery tickets, and not everyone pans out. We remain realistic...

Do I need to repeat for the umpteenth million time that we think the front office could have done more and should have after watching terrible struggles and frustrating mistakes? We are ok with rebuilding the farm, we dont want to ignore it--we also just dont think teams should scrap the season.

Jesus christ, you tell us not to beat a dead horse, but then ignore our stances, causing us to repeat ourselves......

We're optimistic, just realistic.....