Biggs prediction for da Bears on draft night

[BaBaBlacksheep]

I'd be all in on Lance.

There's a reason Kyle Shanahan has the 49ers considering between him Mac Jones and Fields at 3

mmmm..... Nothing as exciting as Shanahan leftovers eh?

 

[Adipost]

mmmm..... Nothing as exciting as Shanahan leftovers eh?

He did pass on Watson and Mahomes, with Brian Hoyer as his starter at the time, just like Pace. Then he drafted Beathard in the 3rd round, a guy that was projected to go undrafted.

 

[vabearsfan15]

I'm of the belief Falcons will stay at #4 rather than go down all the way to #20. I think the Bears are pushing hard to move up, but #20 is a far drop and I dont think Pace will be given the green light to get fleeced of too many picks.

in fact, if we move up I don't see much of a path to do it in the top 10. Atlabta and Cincy get a choice at Pitts and Chase. Dolphins want a top receiver and already pick at #18. They aren't going to to #20. Detroit isn't going to help us get a QB. Panthers should still take a QB, especially if only 3 have been taken off the board by their pick. Denver needs a QB.

I do wonder though if Biggs knows something about the staff being mist interested in Lance. I'm fact, Pace did go to his Pro day.

 

[TL1961]

On the radio this morning he predicted they trade up to 4 with ATL and take Lance. Say want you want about the specific player/trade but despite what some may think on this board the bears are STILL desperate. You don't make big plays for Watson and Wilson then sit on your hands come draft night. If there is in fact an opportunity for them to trade up and make a play for a QB. You can be all but assured that's exactly what will happen.

As an aside, I'm ALMOST as excited for the cunting over picks given up as I am to have a young QB on this team with potential. Buckle up bitchez????

If the Top 4 were gone and Lance fell to 20, I would be OK taking him.

Trading up to #4, and giving up the haul it will take, and picking Trubisky 2.0? I would rip my dick off.

 

[TL1961]

Absolutely. If Fields drops to MIA and Pace can ship next years 1st, ARob and a few other non-1st rd picks, you do that all day.

Why would a team with a ton of picks in a WR heavy draft trade for an expensive vet WR?

 

[TL1961]

I'd be all in on Lance.

There's a reason Kyle Shanahan has the 49ers considering between him Mac Jones and Fields at 3

Yeah, and that reason is he will be available at #3. That's it.

 

[bearsfan1977]

Why would a team with a ton of picks in a WR heavy draft trade for an expensive vet WR?

To give Tua a sure and proven weapon. MIA has a ton of picks, it’s WR deep, and they can draft one in 2 or 3 and see if he hits.

 

[Bears4Ever_34]

That would be just fine with me. Unless they are all in on tanking for this year, it seems inconceivable to me that a GM on the hot seat would be perfectly content going into his make or break season without adding any high-end talent at the most important position.

 

[Briggs is GOAT]

I don't want Pace to move up for Lance or Fields. Lance could very well be Trubisky II, and Fields is an OSU QB. With all the winning they do, name one OSU QB that played well in the NFL in the last 70 years.

Since 2000:
Steve Bellisari
Craig Krenzel
Troy Smith (Heisman)
Terrelle Pryor
Braxton Miller
Cardale Jones
Dwayne Haskins
*Justin Fields

The best NFL QB they've produced since the 50s is Tomczak. Ohio State is the college QB equivalent of the Bears.

It's a major crapshoot to take either of those players, and to give up multiple 1sts to get them is incredibly risky. I want the Bears to draft a QB as much as anyone, but I think Mills and Mond have just as good a shot to succeed as Lance and Fields.

Mond sucks, lacks confidence at the position. Nathan Peterman equivalent.

 

[bearsfan1977]

Bullshit. OSU QBs are coming out of college unprepared to play in the NFL. It's a long established pattern. Are they overdue? Yes. You want to risk 3 1sts on it? Nope.

Nonsense. That list of past QBs combined don’t equal the potential Fields has. Cardale Jones and Haskins? Come on.

Different players from different eras with different coaches going to different pro teams in different degrees of fuckedupedness don’t coincide one percent with any player in this draft. That logic is just dumb.

Take Wentz and Lance. Will Lance have the same stats Wentz had his first few years in the pros because they went to the same school? Lance doesn’t have one half the QB skill Fields has at this point in time.

 

[SD Bears]

Nonsense. That list of past QBs combined don’t equal the potential Fields has. Cardale Jones and Haskins? Come on.

Different players from different eras with different coaches going to different pro teams in different degrees of fuckedupedness don’t coincide one percent with any player in this draft. That logic is just dumb.

Take Wentz and Lance. Will Lance have the same stats Wentz had his first few years in the pros because they went to the same school? Lance doesn’t have one half the QB skill Fields has at this point in time.

So you're good giving up 3 1sts for Fields. Asinine.

 

[bearsfan1977]

I'd be all in on Lance.

There's a reason Kyle Shanahan has the 49ers considering between him Mac Jones and Fields at 3

Yeah, they’re almost as inept at scouting QBs as Pace is. Lynch and Shannahan get a lot of hype. Remember, they’re the guys who also passed on Mahomes and Watson (like Pace), took 2 first round busts in Solomon Thomas and Reuben Foster, and overpaid backup Jimmy Gatappalo. And Pace took the bust Trubisky. I don’t see why you put so much faith in their QB evaluations over, say Nagy, who was all in on Mahomes.

Jones would fit in their offense, Fields would thrive in it. Lance won’t be ready until 2024. I hope they take Lance.

 

[MikeDitkaPolishSausage]

So you're good giving up 3 1sts for Fields. Asinine.

The only reason I would is because this is a pretty solid QB class and it will be a long time before the Bears pick in the top 5 again. They are a mediocre team and will be that way for a while with the current roster.

 

[bearsfan1977]

So you're good giving up 3 1sts for Fields. Asinine.

Never said that. I would be totally fine with giving 20, next years first, and some extra picks and perhaps a player. If Fields drops, he may fall to 7-10 range. Falcs aren’t trading out. They’re taking Pitts.

You wouldn’t give up 20 and next years first for Fields?

 

[ThatGuyRyan]

I hear the coast guard is on call with drag nets for all the dicks they’re gonna have to pull out of Lake Michigan this weekend.

 

[SD Bears]

Never said that. I would be totally fine with giving 20, next years first, and some extra picks and perhaps a player. If Fields drops, he may fall to 7-10 range. Falcs aren’t trading out. They’re taking Pitts.

You wouldn’t give up 20 and next years first for Fields?

I would consider one 1st and the 20, but honestly I think Simms has Fields where he should be (32). If he's there at 20 you have to get him.

 

[knoxville7]

Mond sucks, lacks confidence at the position. Nathan Peterman equivalent.

aside from throwing for like 4,000 more yards, 30 more tds, and 1,000 rushing yards in their college careers, sure I guess. Not saying Mond will be a star, but I think to say he’s peterman at best isn’t fair either. I don’t really see their styles of play as similar either

 

[Briggs is GOAT]

aside from throwing for like 4,000 more yards, 30 more tds, and 1,000 rushing yards in their college careers, sure I guess. Not saying Mond will be a star, but I think to say he’s peterman at best isn’t fair either. I don’t really see their styles of play as similar either

You're correct, a bit overzealous of a comparison, but I do see them as similar in that I feel as though they both lack confidence in playing the position.

 

[knoxville7]

You're correct, a bit overzealous of a comparison, but I do see them as similar in that I feel as though they both lack confidence in playing the position.

i can agree with that. Mond has a lot more talent, but definitely played that zone scheme offense in college. So, the obvious question with him is...can he translate his game to the NFL. I have no clue if he can, but I wouldn’t hate it if the bears took a flyer on him in the 3rd or 4th round in the event they miss out on one of the top ones like it appears they will

 

[bearsfan1977]

I would consider one 1st and the 20, but honestly I think Simms has Fields where he should be (32). If he's there at 20 you have to get him.

We just disagree on his rank. I respect Simms, but he’s wrong on this one IMO. I think he’s the only one who has them ranked that way and Fields dropping that far.

JT O’Sullivan (and others) does a fantastic job breaking down tape. He has Fields QB1, ahead of Lawrence. He could be wrong, but his analysis is incredibly impressive.

I just think putting Lance and Jones anywhere near the same galaxy as Fields is ludicrous, especially Lance, after watching tape.

Fields would instantly become the best QB with the highest ceiling the Bears have ever had. That is worth a trade up in my humble opinion.