Blackhawks Convention July 30th-August 1st

[Pez68]

[quote name="JOVE23"]



Don't worry, you wouldn't have won anything! :lol:[/quote]



Exactly.



Another note on the convention. We noticed several pretty idiotic screw ups on the media that they put up. For instance, in the interactive area, there is a big poster with a summary of the Stanley Cup run. Did you guys know that the Hawks knocked off Vancouver 4 games to 1 to advance? :lol:



Btw, I hope noone purchased any of the "game used" shit they were selling. They actually had "game used" sticks up there that WEREN'T EVEN TAPED ON THE BUTT END. If that wasn't a big enough clue that the stick was NEVER used, some of those were sitting right next to a "game used" stick for the same player, that DID have the butt end taped. Really? At the very least, tape the fucking stick up if you're going to con people. I don't know of a single fucking hockey player that doesn't tape the butt end of their stick. Fraud must not be in the Blackhawks Organization's dictionary.

 

[ShotnGoal]

Actually saw a guy looking at the Issued sticks and comparing them with a picture he had and was like "Yep, that's the one he was playing with in that game!"

Uh no, they are Player Issued Sticks and not Game Used Sticks! Game Used Sticks are usually taped, show wear, and auctioned off for more than $150. They had several from Lalime, Daze, and possibly a few from Mironov. Didn't see any issued to Reto Von Arx! :lol:

 

[Pez68]

[quote name="ShotnGoal"]Actually saw a guy looking at the Issued sticks and comparing them with a picture he had and was like "Yep, that's the one he was playing with in that game!"

Uh no, they are Player Issued Sticks and not Game Used Sticks! Game Used Sticks are usually taped, show wear, and auctioned off for more than $150. They had several from Lalime, Daze, and possibly a few from Mironov. Didn't see any issued to Reto Von Arx! :lol:[/quote]



I'm actually referring to the "game used" sticks that they had on the SILENT AUCTION table! You know, the ones that supposedly have a "game used certificate of authenticity" and were starting off at $500? There were several sticks there that weren't fucking taped up on the butt end... They all seemed to have white tape on the blade too, with very questionable puck marks on them. Nothing that looked like shooting puck marks, which...a game used stick would have plenty of. It was pretty obvious to anyone that ever played hockey that those were NOT game used sticks. How the **** they were selling them as "game used" is anyone's guess. Maybe they ran out of real game used sticks? :lol:

 

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[quote name="Pez68"]



With that many people around, you would have thought there would be more off-duty-cop type security around. The only ones you saw, were there with the players or members of the organization. I didn't see any additional security, and the hotel employees were.....well, ghetto, and pretty much useless. I couldn't understand half of them when I tried to ask them a question about where something was. Must need to brush up on my ebonics. All in all, way too many shady characters hanging around the hotel, with no security around to speak of. We asked the front desk about ordering some pizza, and apparently all those pizza flyers that were shoved under the door, were done so against hotel policy... and without them knowing about it. Just shows you how bad their security is there. As I understand it, all of the blue shirts you saw, were UC employees too. So, what exactly did the Hilton do for this event, and did they have ANY additional staff around for this?



I heard a pretty funny rumor about last night too. Apparently Sharp and Keith came back to the hotel VERY late Saturday night(early Sunday morning I guess), obviously after a good night out on the town. Sharp was so hammered that he couldn't sign autographs, and I guess Dunc left the hotel without his ID or room key on him. He was up at the front counter trying to get a replacement, and the hotel staff working there had NO IDEA who he was, and wouldn't give him his key because he didn't have his ID on him... Not sure how true it is, but funny nonetheless. You would think the staff would at least know who the players were that were staying there.[/quote]



The ONLY truth to that is Keith and Sharp returned to the Hotel together. Sharp was NOT too drunk to sign auto's and Keith went back out.

 

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[quote name="Pez68"]



I'm actually referring to the "game used" sticks that they had on the SILENT AUCTION table! You know, the ones that supposedly have a "game used certificate of authenticity" and were starting off at $500? There were several sticks there that weren't fucking taped up on the butt end... They all seemed to have white tape on the blade too, with very questionable puck marks on them. Nothing that looked like shooting puck marks, which...a game used stick would have plenty of. It was pretty obvious to anyone that ever played hockey that those were NOT game used sticks. How the **** they were selling them as "game used" is anyone's guess. Maybe they ran out of real game used sticks? :lol:[/quote]



I know you play hockey and know why they werent taped!!!



Several of the players spend hours constructing their Knobs so cut them off before they are sold as to re use them. Every single stick auctioned was game used and came with COA stating so.



I have Niemi, Buff, Kane, Eager, and Kopecky that I won in the Silent/Live auction.



You will NEVER find a full Seabrook stick as he NEVER gives his "knob" away. Sounds so wrong!

 

[5Minutes4Fighting]

I can see you guys getting a little hot about the mega-money from the auctions going to the Blackhawks instead of charity. Buuuuuut, since the Blackhawks claim to be losing money and are therefore a non-profit, wouldn't they technically qualify as a charity? See the money does go to a good cause!



There's no need to waste time sending money to save the whales or feed a poor kid in Africa, :naughty: when you can donate close to home and help poor 'ol Rocky get out of poverty. :clap: Just an added bonus of being a Blackhawks fan. :dance:



-5Minutes

 

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[quote name="5Minutes4Fighting"]I can see you guys getting a little hot about the mega-money from the auctions going to the Blackhawks instead of charity. Buuuuuut, since the Blackhawks claim to be losing money and are therefore a non-profit, wouldn't they technically qualify as a charity? See the money does go to a good cause!



There's no need to waste time sending money to save the whales or feed a poor kid in Africa, :naughty: when you can donate close to home and help poor 'ol Rocky get out of poverty. :clap: Just an added bonus of being a Blackhawks fan. :dance:



-5Minutes[/quote]



Did you end up getting the sticks?



Non for profit ... LOL!!!

 

[5Minutes4Fighting]

The game used sticks are game used sticks. Hawks aren't that slimy. Yeah, some of the tape doesn't have a lot of puck marks, but that tapes gets changed a lot. I've seen guys put on new tape just for the shootout. Its not like the sticks we played with as kids or even now, that hardly ever get new tape because of laziness. At least speaking for myself.



-5Minutes

 

[5Minutes4Fighting]

[quote name="R K"]Did you end up getting the sticks? Non for profit ... LOL!!![/quote]



Yeah i got the 6 Olympians yesterday, plus 5 more today (Brouwer, Soup, Hammer, Buff and Sharp). So i got the best players from the team sans Ladd and Steeger. I'm going to put all 11 on a wall in my office, should look pretty cool.



-5Minutes

 

[IceHogsFan]

[quote name="5Minutes4Fighting"]



Yeah i got the 6 Olympians yesterday, plus 5 more today (Brouwer, Soup, Hammer, Buff and Sharp). So i got the best players from the team sans Ladd and Steeger. I'm going to put all 11 on a wall in my office, should look pretty cool.



-5Minutes[/quote]



How awesome! Not bad for a sick guy.

 

[Pez68]

[quote name="R K"]



I know you play hockey and know why they werent taped!!!



Several of the players spend hours constructing their Knobs so cut them off before they are sold as to re use them. Every single stick auctioned was game used and came with COA stating so.



I have Niemi, Buff, Kane, Eager, and Kopecky that I won in the Silent/Live auction.



You will NEVER find a full Seabrook stick as he NEVER gives his "knob" away. Sounds so wrong![/quote]



LOL, I have never cut the knob off of a stick to re-use it. Much easier to just count the number of times I wrap the tape around the butt end to get the knob I want. But, I do know some guys are insane like that. Funny to hear that Seabs is. haha



Ron, the sticks I saw...didn't have a single shred of tape up on the butt end of the stick. Not a smudge of adhesive, not a mark, nothing. Even if they cut the knobs off, there would be some tape left, as most of them tape down several inches from the knob, in some type of "grip" fashion. See: Duncan Keith's tape job. The ones I saw with no knob, had zero tape or tape marks on them aside from the blade. I remember two of Buf's sticks specifically that were like this. Seriously man, they looked like brand new sticks that someone just threw some tape on the blade of and marked up with a puck. They also looked absolutely nothing like the stick they had in the shadow box, or the other game used sticks of his that they had.



Perfect example of what I'm referring to:

Notice his tape job.

 

[5Minutes4Fighting]

I do notice that the tape on the blade has maybe one puck mark.



-5Minutes

 

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[quote name="Pez68"]



LOL, I have never cut the knob off of a stick to re-use it. Much easier to just count the number of times I wrap the tape around the butt end to get the knob I want. But, I do know some guys are insane like that. Funny to hear that Seabs is. haha



Ron, the sticks I saw...didn't have a single shred of tape up on the butt end of the stick. Not a smudge of adhesive, not a mark, nothing. Even if they cut the knobs off, there would be some tape left, as most of them tape down several inches from the knob, in some type of "grip" fashion. See: Duncan Keith's tape job. The ones I saw with no knob, had zero tape or tape marks on them aside from the blade. I remember two of Buf's sticks specifically that were like this. Seriously man, they looked like brand new sticks that someone just threw some tape on the blade of and marked up with a puck. They also looked absolutely nothing like the stick they had in the shadow box, or the other game used sticks of his that they had.[/quote]



Everyone was game used. There was a section of brand new ones in the back from guys like Havlat, Frazer, Daze... That had never been issued though.



All the Auction sticks were 100% legit and came with COA.



Here are the ones I left with. Oh and some players cut the tape off the blade so they can sign it. Like PK hates signing the tape or the little part of the lower shaft.



Niemi, Kane, Buff, Eager, Sopel.

 

[Guest]

[quote name="Pez68"]



LOL, I have never cut the knob off of a stick to re-use it. Much easier to just count the number of times I wrap the tape around the butt end to get the knob I want. But, I do know some guys are insane like that. Funny to hear that Seabs is. haha



Ron, the sticks I saw...didn't have a single shred of tape up on the butt end of the stick. Not a smudge of adhesive, not a mark, nothing. Even if they cut the knobs off, there would be some tape left, as most of them tape down several inches from the knob, in some type of "grip" fashion. See: Duncan Keith's tape job. The ones I saw with no knob, had zero tape or tape marks on them aside from the blade. I remember two of Buf's sticks specifically that were like this. Seriously man, they looked like brand new sticks that someone just threw some tape on the blade of and marked up with a puck. They also looked absolutely nothing like the stick they had in the shadow box, or the other game used sticks of his that they had.



Perfect example of what I'm referring to:

Notice his tape job.[/quote]



Look at his stick below. It's almost identical.

 

[Pez68]

See, that Buf stick is actually taped how he tapes it. He has tape going down from the butt end. He has tape in the middle of the stick like the picture I linked. I saw the Buf one you have up there sitting on the table, next to the other supposedly game used Buf sticks. The Buf sticks I saw, had the blade taped like that, were signed in the exact same spot, but had not a single shred of tape anywhere else on the stick. As I said, they were brand new sticks, with tape on the end, a signature, and absolutely nothing else that would lead you to believe they were ever used, let alone used in a game.



How in the hell would you ever prove a stick WASN'T game used anyway? I see absolutely no reason for the Hawks to not sell anything they want as "game used" and get the big bucks from them. It is impossible to prove one way or the other, so what is to lose? All I know is, Buf would have never used the sticks I saw, in the state that I saw them... That alone is enough to give me suspicion as to their authenticity. Sometimes I think they sell any stick they have sitting in the stick rack during the game as "game used", regardless of whether or not the player has ever used it.

 

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[quote name="5Minutes4Fighting"]



Yeah i got the 6 Olympians yesterday, plus 5 more today (Brouwer, Soup, Hammer, Buff and Sharp). So i got the best players from the team sans Ladd and Steeger. I'm going to put all 11 on a wall in my office, should look pretty cool.



-5Minutes[/quote]



Kick ass! I walked through before we left but really my only goal was buff and Niemi. I now have 5 Kane sticks, including #8 of 88 of the Winter Classic.



Toews

Kane

Keith X 2

Seabrook X 3

Brouwer

Niemi

Hossa

Kopecky

Eager

Boland

Ladd

Sharp

Campbell

 

[Guest]

[quote name="Pez68"]See, that Buf stick is actually taped how he tapes it. He has tape going down from the butt end. He has tape in the middle of the stick like the picture I linked. I saw the Buf one you have up there sitting on the table, next to the other supposedly game used Buf sticks. The Buf sticks I saw, had the blade taped like that, were signed in the exact same spot, but had not a single shred of tape anywhere else on the stick. As I said, they were brand new sticks, with tape on the end, a signature, and absolutely nothing else that would lead you to believe they were ever used, let alone used in a game.



How in the hell would you ever prove a stick WASN'T game used anyway? I see absolutely no reason for the Hawks to not sell anything they want as "game used" and get the big bucks from them. It is impossible to prove one way or the other, so what is to lose? All I know is, Buf would have never used the sticks I saw, in the state that I saw them... That alone is enough to give me suspicion as to their authenticity. Sometimes I think they sell any stick they have sitting in the stick rack during the game as "game used", regardless of whether or not the player has ever used it.[/quote]



As a collector Pez and one that has over 30 sticks and has collected them for a long time as long as they are COA it's proven. No way are the Hawks just grabbing any old stick. Like 5 minutes said they aren't that scum bag.



There were some brand new sticks in the corner. There were NO brand new sticks in the Auction. I walked through all of the silent auctions several times. That's primarily why I went.

 

[Pez68]

[quote name="R K"]



As a collector Pez and one that has over 30 sticks and has collected them for a long time as long as they are COA it's proven. No way are the Hawks just grabbing any old stick. Like 5 minutes said they aren't that scum bag.



There were some brand new sticks in the corner. There were NO brand new sticks in the Auction. I walked through all of the silent auctions several times. That's primarily why I went. [/quote]



lol, all that matters in the end is the COA from a collection standpoint. You won't get an argument from me about that. Seriously though, does it tell you what game it was used in? The last date it was used? Anything like that? I guess I just have a very little trust in humanity, especially corporations and businesses whose only goal is to make money. Looking at it from the seller's perspective, how the **** would the guy I'm selling the stick to, know it isn't game used? As long as I give him this pretty little COA with the equipment, he's happy. What does that COA really say though is the question? Not having ever purchased anything game used, I really have no idea what the COA really tells you.



All I'm saying is, I have a really, really hard time believing that Buf actually used those sticks they were selling, that had not a single shred of tape anywhere but the blade.

 

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[quote name="Pez68"]



lol, all that matters in the end is the COA from a collection standpoint. You won't get an argument from me about that. Seriously though, does it tell you what game it was used in? The last date it was used? Anything like that? I guess I just have a very little trust in humanity, especially corporations and businesses whose only goal is to make money. Looking at it from the seller's perspective, how the **** would the guy I'm selling the stick to, know it isn't game used? As long as I give him this pretty little COA with the equipment, he's happy. What does that COA really say though is the question? Not having ever purchased anything game used, I really have no idea what the COA really tells you.



All I'm saying is, I have a really, really hard time believing that Buf actually used those sticks they were selling, that had not a single shred of tape anywhere but the blade.[/quote]



The end was cut off. Holy crap you are a fat head!



I guess they could lie but every stick I saw was used at some point!

 

[Pez68]

[quote name="R K"]



The end was cut off. Holy crap you are a fat head!



I guess they could lie but every stick I saw was used at some point![/quote]



Same exact length as the other ones? LOL



Seriously man, why would I make this shit up? There were two sticks sitting there in the Buf pile of game used sticks, exactly as I describe. My buddy pointed them out to me, asking why they weren't taped. I looked at all of them closely trying to answer. I had no explanation for him... His next question was "How do you even know these ARE game used?" to which the woman behind the table replied with "We give you a COA." He's like, "So we just take your word for it?" She just stopped talking to him after that... We moved on as we had people behind us in line. That's what got me thinking about all of this in the first place. :lol: