Boba Fett appreciation thread

[Granada]

Third episode was very meh. Maybe this is a stupid thing to complain about, but this doesn't feel like Boba Fett, considering how often Teumera Morrison has the mask off. Also, I was initially open to the idea that Boba Fett "lost a step" so to speak, but it's been three epidodes now, and the guy has already gotten his ass handed to him multiple times, to the point where he needed a bunch of emo kids on motorcycles to save him. If you were going to pussify him this much, you may as well just left his ass in the Sarlaac.

 

[airtime143]

This coming from someone who did not watch anything after the original trilogy, so bear with me. I dont know what Boba fett lore has been expanded upon since "jedi".

From my perspective I don't mind him not being a raging ass kicker. (I hate the emo biker kids as protection. Waiting for the wookie gladiator to come back. He will I am sure, and become fetts minion)

Boba Fett was less ass kicker scary and more crafty scary from what I remember.
He thought ahead and had contingency plans. Sniffed out han solos move on the star destroyer.

He was more mastermind than warrior in my memories.

That said, his goals seem fairly small so far. A small part of a small planet... gotta think bigger than that, or the empire will vaporize you from orbit one day.

 

[Granada]

This coming from someone who did not watch anything after the original trilogy, so bear with me. I dont know what Boba fett lore has been expanded upon since "jedi".

From my perspective I don't mind him not being a raging ass kicker. (I hate the emo biker kids as protection. Waiting for the wookie gladiator to come back. He will I am sure, and become fetts minion)

Boba Fett was less ass kicker scary and more crafty scary from what I remember.
He thought ahead and had contingency plans. Sniffed out han solos move on the star destroyer.

He was more mastermind than warrior in my memories.

That said, his goals seem fairly small so far. A small part of a small planet... gotta think bigger than that, or the empire will vaporize you from orbit one day.

This is fair, although what made Fett scary in the original trilogy, was the idea that he was ruthless. He had no mercy. He was a typical bounty hunter who only cared about the score. He wasn't as ass kicker -- true -- but he was evil in the sense that he didn't care about anyone.

I really had no qualms about making him more "humble" of a character in the initial episode or two, but now, I think they're taking it a little too far. He's a powder puff who is essentially helpless and constantly needs his ass saved. Maybe at the end of the series, he becomes more sinister again. Maybe once he acquires more power and respect, he'll have no choice but to rule with an iron fist. But I think they're going overboard, and this doesn't feel like Boba Fett anymore. It feels like when a movie acquires a "brand," like "National Lampoon's." It's branded that way, but only in name only. Are they really going to make Boba Fett a hero? That isn't Boba Fett.

Yeah, was extremely disappointed what they did with the evil Chewy. They completely blew that story line. Obviously, he will join forces with Boba Fett, as I've heard that's what happens in the comics; and it's extremely obvious from the episode alone. If you wanted to make them team up, you should have done that in Season 2 and made him the main antagonist to Fett this entire season (along with the Fetts). Makes me feel like this series was already earmarked to be short-lived.

 

[Ares]

I think the Boba Fett show is better than Mandalorian, and lemme explain.

I enjoy this dude, he's old and competent.... he see's solutions to problems, like those fucking biker kids.

Some of you bitching about them.... he needs numbers of some kind, because he found when he faced numbers (the assassins) and all he had were the 2 Gomorians (sp?) it was not an easy fight.

He took out of work problem children, and repurposed them so they were useful members of society, at least for Fett.

And lastly, he's old and disabled and trying desperately to heal every night, why do you expect him to demolish his opponents in every fight?

I love how he's just scrapping by, zero fucks given, willing to put his life on the line every time someone challenges him.

Also, the fact it feels like you get to explore Tatooine as Fett does is cool to me.

I'll end with... if you assume he gonna be this nice, the entire show.... cmon now lol.

If he never turns ruthless at all, then I'll join yall in bitching, but I think its coming.

I think they are showing him being a good/patient leader early, so they can show him get frustrated with the trappings of power, and then turn back towards his old self before the Tusken People humbled him so badly.

If true, I think the pay off will be worth it.

 

[Granada]

I think the Boba Fett show is better than Mandalorian, and lemme explain.

I enjoy this dude, he's old and competent.... he see's solutions to problems, like those fucking biker kids.

Some of you bitching about them.... he needs numbers of some kind, because he found when he faced numbers (the assassins) and all he had were the 2 Gomorians (sp?) it was not an easy fight.

He took out of work problem children, and repurposed them so they were useful members of society, at least for Fett.

And lastly, he's old and disabled and trying desperately to heal every night, why do you expect him to demolish his opponents in every fight?

I love how he's just scrapping by, zero fucks given, willing to put his life on the line every time someone challenges him.

Also, the fact it feels like you get to explore Tatooine as Fett does is cool to me.

I'll end with... if you assume he gonna be this nice, the entire show.... cmon now lol.

If he never turns ruthless at all, then I'll join yall in bitching, but I think its coming.

I think they are showing him being a good/patient leader early, so they can show him get frustrated with the trappings of power, and then turn back towards his old self before the Tusken People humbled him so badly.

If true, I think the pay off will be worth it.

I wish he would have just circled back to the tusken raiders and used them for "numbers" instead of a bunch of emo kids. I'm sorry, but I can't get on board with those characters. You have an entire galaxy of cool characters, and you have to give him these guys? The tusken raiders were actually great characters and it would have been cool to see them fucking shit up with Fett as he rose to power, instead of these teeny-boppers.

I wonder how long it'll be until we see Bossk. That's definitely a character I'd like to see fleshed out from the original trilogy.

 

[Ares]

I wish he would have just circled back to the tusken raiders and used them for "numbers" instead of a bunch of emo kids. I'm sorry, but I can't get on board with those characters. You have an entire galaxy of cool characters, and you have to give him these guys? The tusken raiders were actually great characters and it would have been cool to see them fucking shit up with Fett as he rose to power, instead of these teeny-boppers.

I feel the need to point out that those Tusken Raiders were all murdered in a massacre, remember?

Unless you mean, the writers shouldn't of killed them off like that, so he could use them.... then maybe.

I'd find it inconsistent that he'd be able to bring Tusken's into "civilized" society and keep their culture from becoming a major problem for his vassals.

Is your problem with the kids more about the way they've been cast/costumed?

I don't find the kids a bad idea as his numbers, but they are not at all what I imagined when the dude said they were these killers using droid tech fused to their bodies.

The bikes look silly, not cool or fast or dangerous.

The kids look small and skinny and cartoonish... if Boba had made them all toughen up in a montage, or if that happens, then fine, but right now they look weird for the role they are supposed to be playing.

Like when the Wookie tried to murder Boba, when the 2 Gamorians showed up it looked good, they just showed up and blundered into the fight like they do.... but then the kids show up and it was like some show choir kids arrived lol.

I expected one to be real strong, using like droid parts as an exo-skeleton, but then the Wookie is still stronger.

They all just showed up with glowing knives and shit.... they helped lol, but what the writers foreshadowed is not what ended up on screen.

 

[Granada]

I feel the need to point out that those Tusken Raiders were all murdered in a massacre, remember?

Unless you mean, the writers shouldn't of killed them off like that, so he could use them.... then maybe.

I'd find it inconsistent that he'd be able to bring Tusken's into "civilized" society and keep their culture from becoming a major problem for his vassals.

Is your problem with the kids more about the way they've been cast/costumed?

I don't find the kids a bad idea as his numbers, but they are not at all what I imagined when the dude said they were these killers using droid tech fused to their bodies.

The bikes look silly, not cool or fast or dangerous.

The kids look small and skinny and cartoonish... if Boba had made them all toughen up in a montage, or if that happens, then fine, but right now they look weird for the role they are supposed to be playing.

Like when the Wookie tried to murder Boba, when the 2 Gamorians showed up it looked good, they just showed up and blundered into the fight like they do.... but then the kids show up and it was like some show choir kids arrived lol.

I expected one to be real strong, using like droid parts as an exo-skeleton, but then the Wookie is still stronger.

They all just showed up with glowing knives and shit.... they helped lol, but what the writers foreshadowed is not what ended up on screen.

Right, but I'm saying, Favreau and co. shouldn't have done that, as you said in your second sentence. It was a bit unceremonious how, all of sudden, after being such a huge part of the story in the first two episodes, they're just all dead now. They could have been better utilized, especially since that story line was the most interesting in the series thus far. But anyways.

Everything about the kids bothers me. It's just silly. The bright, neon "motorcycles," the fact they're teaming up with Boba Fett of all people. They're flat characters on top of it. They're just uninteresting and out of place. At this point, I'm hoping they betray Boba Fett and he ends up incinerating all of them, lol.

Yeah I agree, all the scenes with the kids in episode three were just terrible. The bikes didn't look fast, but I guess that's the sacrifice when you're trying to use less cgi? But yeah, I felt like when they all jumped in, I was watching West Side Story or something.

 

[Raskolnikov]

I wish he would have just circled back to the tusken raiders and used them for "numbers" instead of a bunch of emo kids. I'm sorry, but I can't get on board with those characters. You have an entire galaxy of cool characters, and you have to give him these guys? The tusken raiders were actually great characters and it would have been cool to see them fucking shit up with Fett as he rose to power, instead of these teeny-boppers.

I wonder how long it'll be until we see Bossk. That's definitely a character I'd like to see fleshed out from the original trilogy.

I think like a few even could have survived…yeah? Although I guess that makes Boba “The Last of the Raiders”.

 

[Granada]

I think like a few even could have survived…yeah? Although I guess that makes Boba “The Last of the Raiders”.

Yeah, and I was under the assumption that this was just one group of many. So even if they all died in that one sect, there are other sects out there. Maybe I'm wrong and that's all that's left on the planet? Even if some didn't survive in that one group, I assume there are many more of them out there.

 

[Raskolnikov]

I had the same feelings.

4 was as good for me as 3 was blah…
My hopes for Disney productions of these have probably gotten realistic and I tend to just enjoy them without a fight over opinion. It is what it is.

I enjoy the new art over the mainstream re-cut scene bullshit in some of the new movies. Like Star Wars was a re-cut of A New Hope with CG and The Matrix is a re-cut of The Matrix with CG. Why bother? The missed opportunity to create new art saddens me.

Third episode was very meh. Maybe this is a stupid thing to complain about, but this doesn't feel like Boba Fett, considering how often Teumera Morrison has the mask off. Also, I was initially open to the idea that Boba Fett "lost a step" so to speak, but it's been three epidodes now, and the guy has already gotten his ass handed to him multiple times, to the point where he needed a bunch of emo kids on motorcycles to save him. If you were going to pussify him this much, you may as well just left his ass in the Sarlaac

 

[airtime143]

I watched 4, And his perspective on the Tuscan experience sounds legit.
The fireside scene does a good job encapsulating it and fennec does a good job asking questions or stating things us fans would.

All in all a solid dose of perspective given in a fairly decent delivery.

Then you get the short term goals at the end.


Episode 4 is pretty useful in setting the stage looking back and moving forward, bravo.


As for the kids... I dig what they are and why they are there, but the execution is awful.

The shiny ass yet retro looking bikes and the slapshod enhancements... weak.

If I am making the show, the kids have enhancements like Matt Damon and the bounty hunter in Elysium... dusty and battered but blue collar and battle purposeful.
Their bikes would be beat up, stolen speeder bikes that were modded yet shitty.

After all, they are refugees of the worker district.

Their bikes and mods look more like rich kids slumming it.

 

[airtime143]

I feel the need to point out that those Tusken Raiders were all murdered in a massacre, remember?

Unless you mean, the writers shouldn't of killed them off like that, so he could use them.... then maybe.

I'd find it inconsistent that he'd be able to bring Tusken's into "civilized" society and keep their culture from becoming a major problem for his vassals.

Is your problem with the kids more about the way they've been cast/costumed?

I don't find the kids a bad idea as his numbers, but they are not at all what I imagined when the dude said they were these killers using droid tech fused to their bodies.

The bikes look silly, not cool or fast or dangerous.

The kids look small and skinny and cartoonish... if Boba had made them all toughen up in a montage, or if that happens, then fine, but right now they look weird for the role they are supposed to be playing.

Like when the Wookie tried to murder Boba, when the 2 Gamorians showed up it looked good, they just showed up and blundered into the fight like they do.... but then the kids show up and it was like some show choir kids arrived lol.

I expected one to be real strong, using like droid parts as an exo-skeleton, but then the Wookie is still stronger.

They all just showed up with glowing knives and shit.... they helped lol, but what the writers foreshadowed is not what ended up on screen.

The door is still open to Tusken raider help...
He settled the train issue for his tribe but to the benefit of all tribes.
It is entirely possible other tribes are getting the payoff from the company.
It wouldn't shock me to see that come in to play later.

 

[airtime143]

One other thing about the execution of the mandalorian and Boba fett that is small but appreciated-

They avoid tech lingo.
Our star wars universe was made before Bluetooth and internet and wifi....
There is every opportunity to use tech jargon on missions...:"jam the dark troopers wifi connection.... hack in to the server"....
But they avoid it.

The holograms are sketchy, and there is a beautiful finishing touch that I love- the hum bars on the rifle scope and helmet video displays.
Those are analog only distortions.
That is such a nit-picky addition, but it would have bummed me out if displays were slick digital displays with pixelation rather than analog with base level wire frame digital displays on the ships.

 

[KittiesKorner]

yeah but they like to use a lot of interstellar slang which really gets on my bantha fodder tits

 

[airtime143]

yeah but they like to use a lot of interstellar slang which really gets on my bantha fodder tits

Holy shit- that marshal that had Boba fetts armor in the mandalorian was intolerable with that.
A space version of Andy Griffith.

 

[Ares]

Holy shit- that marshal that had Boba fetts armor in the mandalorian was intolerable with that.
A space version of Andy Griffith.

That was Timothy Olyphant, lol I enjoyed the **** outta that episode.

It had that Space Opera Western vibe, like you said, complete with a fucking yokle of a Sheriff trying to use Mandalorian armor.

So much of Mandalorian and Boba Fett have the good aspects of what drew me to New Hope, even 20+ years after it was made.

If you actually dislike a character, IMO that's kinda good, it means they provided you with contrast to the protagonist.

Makes your brane even more sympathetic to the protagonist's plight, in this case dealing with some dipshit local Sheriff toting armor he has no business using.

I think one thing missing in modern TV/Cinema are characters that you truly truly despise, so when they get their ass kicked or the protagonist shows up and kills them, or heck even if the yokle gets tossed thru a window and it makes you laugh, because **** that guy.

Most shows now try to write all characters within a narrow margin of Good, and usually attempt to explain why a villain is acting the way they are.... traumatic childhood, sexual abuse, major psychological event, etc.

And also try to paint in some grey on the protagonist.... yeah he's good, but he did some bad stuff just like the villain you're supposedly rooting against.

So now you're just watching people you sorta root for to all kinda be successful so no one is dead in the end because you sorta kinda like all the characters in some way.

There's a reason he was "The Dark Lord Sauron" and not "The Misunderstood Guy Sauron", ya know what I mean?

 

[Raskolnikov]

That was Timothy Olyphant, lol I enjoyed the **** outta that episode.

It had that Space Opera Western vibe, like you said, complete with a fucking yokle of a Sheriff trying to use Mandalorian armor.

So much of Mandalorian and Boba Fett have the good aspects of what drew me to New Hope, even 20+ years after it was made.

If you actually dislike a character, IMO that's kinda good, it means they provided you with contrast to the protagonist.

Makes your brane even more sympathetic to the protagonist's plight, in this case dealing with some dipshit local Sheriff toting armor he has no business using.

I think one thing missing in modern TV/Cinema are characters that you truly truly despise, so when they get their ass kicked or the protagonist shows up and kills them, or heck even if the yokle gets tossed thru a window and it makes you laugh, because **** that guy.

Most shows now try to write all characters within a narrow margin of Good, and usually attempt to explain why a villain is acting the way they are.... traumatic childhood, sexual abuse, major psychological event, etc.

And also try to paint in some grey on the protagonist.... yeah he's good, but he did some bad stuff just like the villain you're supposedly rooting against.

So now you're just watching people you sorta root for to all kinda be successful so no one is dead in the end because you sorta kinda like all the characters in some way.

There's a reason he was "The Dark Lord Sauron" and not "The Misunderstood Guy Sauron", ya know what I mean?

Yes…I read the Twilight series for research purposes, and the longest book builds up and goes through a battle for hundreds of pages and details what every soldiers special ability is and how it would play out in the big battle and who their historical nemesis was and intertwined backstory of characters and then in the end the battle never happened because the seer said it was a bad idea. LOL!!

Everybody lives!!! I did understand the female psyche a little better for the effort but that was truly my only reward. It was hard not to burn them.

 

[Ares]

Yes…I read the Twilight series for research purposes, and the longest book builds up and goes through a battle for hundreds of pages and details what every soldiers special ability is and how it would play out in the big battle and who their historical nemesis was and intertwined backstory of characters and then in the end the battle never happened because the seer said it was a bad idea. LOL!!

Everybody lives!!! I did understand the female psyche a little better for the effort but that was truly my only reward. It was hard not to burn them.

I'm fine with some stories having the shades of grey and everyone lives maybe sorta kinda happily ever somewhere.

Just too many these days that seem to follow a cookie cutter list of tropes, all painting shades of grey, often in places where it unfortunately harms the narrative.

There's this concept of, the same is better than "better".

And it works really well say when you apply it to say catering the set where the filming is taking place.

Just get consistent food that has enough variety to satisfy the cast and crew, it'll be better for production efficiency than trying to cater from different places each day or each week.

It can even work in creative process... if people like a setting (Star Wars Universe) then you might choose to develop multiple shows of the same type, in that same setting.

But where it fails is when you start seeding exactly the same tropes into every story you write, without introducing meaningful contrast.

For instance, I'm sick of the same motherhood trope.

I am not sick of motherhood being in fucking everything, I can deal with it, but every story with motherhood tends to have a Mom get pregnant and suffer thru pregnancy and then has a baby like a champion, and the story tends to fast forward to the actress taking off the baby bump prop and doing a workout montage where she's already fit.

It isn't that easy for all women who end up pregnant, yet this trope just keeps being repeated as though it is the absolute norm for women and pregnancy and giving birth.

Fear the Walking Dead tried to tackle miscarriages, and honestly, I don't think a zombie spin-off show from a comic book is the right realm for tackling that kind of difficult issue for millions of people.

Why can't "This is Us" tackle those complex social/family issues while zombie shows are just zombie shows, left to the viewership of those looking for a mindless escape.

I don't understand why all things must be in all other things.

 

[Granada]

I watched 4, And his perspective on the Tuscan experience sounds legit.
The fireside scene does a good job encapsulating it and fennec does a good job asking questions or stating things us fans would.

All in all a solid dose of perspective given in a fairly decent delivery.

Then you get the short term goals at the end.


Episode 4 is pretty useful in setting the stage looking back and moving forward, bravo.


As for the kids... I dig what they are and why they are there, but the execution is awful.

The shiny ass yet retro looking bikes and the slapshod enhancements... weak.

If I am making the show, the kids have enhancements like Matt Damon and the bounty hunter in Elysium... dusty and battered but blue collar and battle purposeful.
Their bikes would be beat up, stolen speeder bikes that were modded yet shitty.

After all, they are refugees of the worker district.

Their bikes and mods look more like rich kids slumming it.

Yes, I liked episode 4 as well. It kind of gave Boba a little bit of his swagger/wrath back, when he lasered the biker gang with Slave I. I really like his female sidekick (forget her name now). I also liked how you got to see more of the interior of Jabba's Palace.

Now that the Tusken Raiders are dead, I'm hoping we're all done with the flashback scenes and we're all up to speed. I'm glad he's "fully healed" now. I'm still hoping he doesn't take his mask off as much as he does, lol.

 

[Ares]

I watched 4, And his perspective on the Tuscan experience sounds legit.
The fireside scene does a good job encapsulating it and fennec does a good job asking questions or stating things us fans would.

All in all a solid dose of perspective given in a fairly decent delivery.

Then you get the short term goals at the end.


Episode 4 is pretty useful in setting the stage looking back and moving forward, bravo.


As for the kids... I dig what they are and why they are there, but the execution is awful.

The shiny ass yet retro looking bikes and the slapshod enhancements... weak.

If I am making the show, the kids have enhancements like Matt Damon and the bounty hunter in Elysium... dusty and battered but blue collar and battle purposeful.
Their bikes would be beat up, stolen speeder bikes that were modded yet shitty.

After all, they are refugees of the worker district.

Their bikes and mods look more like rich kids slumming it.

Elysium is what I was expecting, something like that with droid exo-suit pieces.

Agree the execution is bad, feels like a GenZ 90's punk cover band got their hands on Costo-sized containers of glow sticks and melee weapons mixed with BDSM gear.