brad miller

[TheStig]

houheffna wrote:

That would be the key part of the statement. Not to mention all of your examples are part of a different era where big defenders could hide some of their lack of quickness with hand-checking.

What makes that the key part of my statement?


just referring to the fact that you act as if the idea was invented with Pippen...hand checking and defensive schemes are not important...the idea is this-defense takes energy-good defense, as much now as ever. If you can get a Bruce Bowen type who can guard pg,sg,sf routinely at a high level and couldn't use the hand checks and etc, he was still an outstanding defender...then that is what you do.

That they were inferior defensively.

You act as if every great player draws the worst defensive matchup. Its simply not true. Not every team has a stopper. Lebron, who plays among the most minutes usaully guards the other teams best wing player at crucial times and doesn't swap to guard the guy standing in the corner. Same thing with Wade.

 

[clonetrooper264]

TheStig wrote:

houheffna wrote:

That would be the key part of the statement. Not to mention all of your examples are part of a different era where big defenders could hide some of their lack of quickness with hand-checking.

What makes that the key part of my statement?


just referring to the fact that you act as if the idea was invented with Pippen...hand checking and defensive schemes are not important...the idea is this-defense takes energy-good defense, as much now as ever. If you can get a Bruce Bowen type who can guard pg,sg,sf routinely at a high level and couldn't use the hand checks and etc, he was still an outstanding defender...then that is what you do.

That they were inferior defensively.

You act as if every great player draws the worst defensive matchup. Its simply not true. Not every team has a stopper. Lebron, who plays among the most minutes usaully guards the other teams best wing player at crucial times and doesn't swap to guard the guy standing in the corner. Same thing with Wade.

Well the thing with star players who can play at both ends is that they CAN guard at a very high level. MJ, probably the best defensive SG ever to date, being the competitive person we know he is, would not let some other star on the other team to beat him if he could prevent it. And unless that star player was a post player, Jordan would switch over to guard him in the crucial moments because he could. Crunch time works both ways, there are clutch scorers and there are clutch defenders, players like MJ, Wade, Kobe, LeBron, etc are both. It's just that for the majority of the game, you don't want to tire your star out by making him play offense and defense at such a high level out of fear that by the time crunch time arrives, he's too tired.

 

[houheffna]

That they were inferior defensively.

You act as if every great player draws the worst defensive matchup. Its simply not true. Not every team has a stopper. Lebron, who plays among the most minutes usaully guards the other teams best wing player at crucial times and doesn't swap to guard the guy standing in the corner. Same thing with Wade.

Some do some don't...I never said anything absolute...different personnel and different coaches think differently so you have what I said misconstrued...

 

[TheStig]

houheffna wrote:

That they were inferior defensively.

You act as if every great player draws the worst defensive matchup. Its simply not true. Not every team has a stopper. Lebron, who plays among the most minutes usaully guards the other teams best wing player at crucial times and doesn't swap to guard the guy standing in the corner. Same thing with Wade.

Some do some don't...I never said anything absolute...different personnel and different coaches think differently so you have what I said misconstrued...

I don't really care, bottom line we want rose to be a two way player. We are going around in circles on a tangent.