Brewer signs with Knicks

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I don't think what you are saying is relevant. You are talking about rookie scale contracts. That rule applies to Rose, not to Brewer.

I just don't want to talk NBA salary cap too much. Needless semantics that has nothing to do with the subject at hand.

There are no semantics about it, thats just the fact of the game. A team option is a team option. The rookie contracts just make up the bulk of the language, because they are automatically team options, but not limited to just rookies. The 26.1% rule matters, because the NEW CBA added the 40% and 10% rules for all team options and certain ETOs. But the Bulls don't qualify for the 40 or 10% option which would be the ONLY way to keep Brewer, and NOT pay him $4.4mil. The loophole was closed, along with the require loophole and the S&T loophole(after 2014). No loophole, no semantics, just clear language.
 

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There are no semantics about it, thats just the fact of the game. A team option is a team option. The rookie contracts just make up the bulk of the language, because they are automatically team options, but not limited to just rookies. The 26.1% rule matters, because the NEW CBA added the 40% and 10% rules for all team options and certain ETOs. But the Bulls don't qualify for the 40 or 10% option which would be the ONLY way to keep Brewer, and NOT pay him $4.4mil. The loophole was closed, along with the require loophole and the S&T loophole(after 2014). No loophole, no semantics, just clear language.

Link please...

Most importantly...who gives a damn? The Bulls didn't exercise the option they had on Brewer's contract which saved them millions...that was the point from the beginning.

But yeah, link me to what you are talking about. I read a lot of Larry Coon's stuff and don't see that anywhere.
 

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Link please...

Most importantly...who gives a damn? The Bulls didn't exercise the option they had on Brewer's contract which saved them millions...that was the point from the beginning.

But yeah, link me to what you are talking about. I read a lot of Larry Coon's stuff and don't see that anywhere.

Whenever I read your posts I feel like your angry, is that accurate or am I just reading with the wrong tone in my head?
 

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Whenever I read your posts I feel like your angry, is that accurate or am I just reading with the wrong tone in my head?

You are absolutely right...most of the time I post on here...I am pissed to the highest of pisstivity.
 

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Link please...

Most importantly...who gives a damn?
Aparently you
The Bulls didn't exercise the option they had on Brewer's contract which saved them millions...that was the point from the beginning.

Maybe this is where the confusion is. You said
So.....Brewer's option declined by the Bulls for 4.4mil. People whine and complain that the Bulls and GarPax are clueless. Then he signs with another team amongst the 29 remaining teams in the league....for 1.4mil...

I will sit here and wait for the "GarPax is so damn smart" thread.

Which I thought was your point to where the Bulls could have signed Brewer for 1.4m, or a knock on them for overpaying for the first place. Where I point out that it's impossible for the Bulls to sign him for 1.4m. Which was the point I made from the first place. That whatever the Bulls did do, was irrelevant, and I have no idea why you brought it up. You could have just said, what you said now. "The Bulls didn't exercise the option they had on Brewer's contract which saved them millions...that was the point"

But yeah, link me to what you are talking about. I read a lot of Larry Coon's stuff and don't see that anywhere.
http://www.nbpa.org/cba/2005 And the "official" changes were sent out as amended, not re-written documents, such as this one. Coon's cbafaq is good, as far as this goes, it's all there too.
 

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One cup won't work brother...won't work at all.

But your saying there IS a chance multiple cups will possibly work :thinking:






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Which I thought was your point to where the Bulls could have signed Brewer for 1.4m, or a knock on them for overpaying for the first place. Where I point out that it's impossible for the Bulls to sign him for 1.4m. Which was the point I made from the first place. That whatever the Bulls did do, was irrelevant, and I have no idea why you brought it up. You could have just said, what you said now. "The Bulls didn't exercise the option they had on Brewer's contract which saved them millions...that was the point"


http://www.nbpa.org/cba/2005 And the "official" changes were sent out as amended, not re-written documents, such as this one. Coon's cbafaq is good, as far as this goes, it's all there too.

I said that they chose not to exercise the option...I just put the numbers in for impact. I believe everyone knows my stance on this issue.

Amendments are usually made public in collectively bargained agreements. After all, a union is involved. I still don't see what you are talking about.
 

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Coffee won't help with bitterness.
It will only multiply anger and hostility.
What hue really need is a fat blunt of that kush kush.
I'm even willing to twist one up and smoke it with him.
I think that would help with his mental issues and turn him into a peace maker just like me :troll:
 

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There are no semantics about it, thats just the fact of the game. A team option is a team option. The rookie contracts just make up the bulk of the language, because they are automatically team options, but not limited to just rookies. The 26.1% rule matters, because the NEW CBA added the 40% and 10% rules for all team options and certain ETOs. But the Bulls don't qualify for the 40 or 10% option which would be the ONLY way to keep Brewer, and NOT pay him $4.4mil. The loophole was closed, along with the require loophole and the S&T loophole(after 2014). No loophole, no semantics, just clear language.

The one grave mistake you made was thinking houheffna will understand anything.

No matter how many times you post facts.

No matter how many different ways you try to explain.

He will never, never be able to comprehend.

Never.

He still can't even figure out the meaning of the word ignore and it's in his motto.
 

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The one grave mistake you made was thinking houheffna will understand anything.

No matter how many times you post facts.

No matter how many different ways you try to explain.

He will never, never be able to comprehend.

Never.

He still can't even figure out the meaning of the word ignore and it's in his motto.

Hey...DingDong...let me entertain your wishes right quick and pretend you are...you know...worth talking to.

Could you please help me find the facts you speak of? I can't seem to find them...or is this just you trolling some more?

I am interested in learning about some 26.1% loophole that deals with veteran and not rookie contracts. I am also interested in finding out about the 40% and 10% loophole used only under certain conditions that the Bulls were not eligible for...don't see that in the CBA...new or old. And of all the amendments mentioned, this one is not. I want to see how the owners of small market teams have any complaints if they allow veteran, non-exception contracts to bloat up 40% in one year after the previous agreement was 8.5% and the agreement in the present CBA is 4.5%. I am just trying to find this exception...would love for you to help me find these facts.

And the whole "I will post after SP94 posts" thing you do? Very revealing. Try not to be such an obvious groupie...not a good look.
 

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Could you please help me find the facts you speak of? I can't seem to find them...or is this just you trolling some more?

Fact: You said I am permanently on ignore

Fact: I am clealy not, nor have I ever been, on ignore.

Fact: Your life long struggle with the understanding of the word "ignore" still appears to go right over your head.

Fact: You have forever been exposed as a liar and a fraud.

^^^Found them.
 

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Fact: You said I am permanently on ignore

Fact: I am clealy not, nor have I ever been, on ignore.

Fact: Your life long struggle with the understanding of the word "ignore" still appears to go right over your head.

Fact: You have forever been exposed as a liar and a fraud.

^^^Found them.

You are on ignore...there is this lovely option they have called "view post"...never mind. I think you know what facts I spoke of. If what the gentleman I was having the conversation with posed facts, show proof. You interjected your dumb ass into the conversation...so I asked you to show proof that what he said was fact since you stated that they were. You did nothing...and said nothing.

I am a liar and a fraud right? And you are a groupie follower who is clueless, with no backbone. That will be the last time I will expect you to bring any illumination on any subject on these forums. Your idiocy is a foregone conclusion.
 

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Hey...DingDong...let me entertain your wishes right quick and pretend you are...you know...worth talking to.

Could you please help me find the facts you speak of? I can't seem to find them...or is this just you trolling some more?

I am interested in learning about some 26.1% loophole that deals with veteran and not rookie contracts. I am also interested in finding out about the 40% and 10% loophole used only under certain conditions that the Bulls were not eligible for...don't see that in the CBA...new or old. And of all the amendments mentioned, this one is not. I want to see how the owners of small market teams have any complaints if they allow veteran, non-exception contracts to bloat up 40% in one year after the previous agreement was 8.5% and the agreement in the present CBA is 4.5%. I am just trying to find this exception...would love for you to help me find these facts.

And the whole "I will post after SP94 posts" thing you do? Very revealing. Try not to be such an obvious groupie...not a good look.

Good Morning....

Earlier this month, the muthafuckin National Basketball Association announced that the Salary Cap for the 2012-13 season will be $58.044 million. The tax level for the 2012-13 season has been set at $70.307 million... Any team whose team salary exceeds that figure will pay a $1 tax for each $1 by which it exceeds $70.307 million.....

The Salary Cap and tax level, both of which are unchanged from 2011-12 amounts, went into effect at 12:01 a.m. ET on Wednesday, July 11, when the league's "moratorium period" ended and teams were able to fucking begin signing free agents and making trades....

The dam minimum team salary, which is set at 85% of the Salary Cap, is $49.337 million for the 2012-13 season..........

The current Collective Bargaining Agreement provides for three different mid-level exceptions depending on a team's salary level. The non-taxpayer mid-level for this season is $5.0 million, the taxpayer mid-level is $3.09 million and the mid-level for a team with room under the Salary Cap is $2.575 million.........
Those are the only facts I can find for you at this time.


Now as far as the loopholes you ask of, I'm sorry I can't help you.
I have been a lifelong resident of Cook County Illinois and the only example of NBA wheeling and dealing I have witnessed has been how the Chicago Bulls have conducted themselves during the trade deadlines and summer free agent signing..
I don't think GarPax even know what a loop hole is or are creative enough to even create one based on what I've witnessed over the Pax years.
If you want to find out how the loop holes are operated, you should probably contact Jerry Buss or Pat Riley....or Stern himself.
:smug:

Have a nice day.
Its raining where I'm at, how's the weather by you today Hue? :troll:
 
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Good Morning....

Earlier this month, the muthafuckin National Basketball Association announced that the Salary Cap for the 2012-13 season will be $58.044 million. The tax level for the 2012-13 season has been set at $70.307 million... Any team whose team salary exceeds that figure will pay a $1 tax for each $1 by which it exceeds $70.307 million.....

The Salary Cap and tax level, both of which are unchanged from 2011-12 amounts, went into effect at 12:01 a.m. ET on Wednesday, July 11, when the league's "moratorium period" ended and teams were able to fucking begin signing free agents and making trades....

The dam minimum team salary, which is set at 85% of the Salary Cap, is $49.337 million for the 2012-13 season..........

The current Collective Bargaining Agreement provides for three different mid-level exceptions depending on a team's salary level. The non-taxpayer mid-level for this season is $5.0 million, the taxpayer mid-level is $3.09 million and the mid-level for a team with room under the Salary Cap is $2.575 million.........
Those are the only facts I can find for you at this time.


Now as far as the loopholes you ask of, I'm sorry I can't help you.
I have been a lifelong resident of Cook County Illinois and the only example of NBA wheeling and dealing I have witnessed has been how the Chicago Bulls have conducted themselves during the trade deadlines and summer free agent signing..
I don't think GarPax even know what a loop hole is or are creative enough to even create one based on what I've witnessed over the Pax years.
If you want to find out how the loop holes are operated, you should probably contact Jerry Buss or Pat Riley....or Stern himself.
:smug:

Have a nice day.
Its raining where I'm at, how's the weather by you today Hue? :troll:

The weather is fine where I am at...I just wish you would use context concerning my posts. In other words, there was a conversation taking place, you interjected yourself without knowing what is going on. If I asked for PROOF of loopholes...ever think that someone might have brought them up? I didn't. I just want proof since they supposedly exist, which I don't believe they do.

But I understand where you are coming from and honestly was not trying to frustrate anybody else...was talking to Crystallas. DingDongforced his way into the conversation, so I asked him to post the facts in this issue. With his limited intelligence, I should have known he couldn't come up with anything...but you did try.
 

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