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Bigfoot has as many goals as Hossa.....
 

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Bigfoot has as many goals as Hossa.....

Does that mean we must begin calling Hossa the Yeti? (Abominable Snowman would be more appropriate given our current weather, but is way too wordy...as is this addendum).
 

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Does that mean we must begin calling Hossa the Yeti? (Abominable Snowman would be more appropriate given our current weather, but is way too wordy...as is this addendum).

Nah, I've never seen the ice reach out and grab Hoss the way it does Bigfoot.
 

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Struggles over a regular season are going to happen no matter what, to every single team in the league. That's just part of a long season. But I'll take my bets on keeping that better depth rather than overpaying a goalie and losing that depth and having to depend on great goaltending more often as a consequence every day of the week.

It really shouldn't be that much a surprise when guys like Niemi can come in and play well, especially with certain teams like Chicago and San Jose. Because the parity of the position is so high due the technique now becoming so refined and the fact that there are only so many goalie openings in the NHL (especially when compared to forwards/d-men), there will always, always be more NHL caliber goalies out there just looking for an opportunity than there are positions for.

Our skater depth is good, but not "win it all with Jason Labarbera" good. If Crawford is dropped, it's going to be a salary move, and that means in the best case scenario (with the cap going up significantly), Ditching Crawford to keep, say, Bickell or Oduya, means that the 'hawks, at best can afford a 1-2M goalie between the pipes--assuming they don't go with Darling or Raanta and I've hased out the issues with that if either is good enough to win a cup.

With Bobrovski signing a 7M+ extension (and him having a vezina to his name and no cups), the price for good, great, elite, and future HoF netminders appears to not be correcting and appears to be going up, as such, 1-2M is going to buy you less and less.

Even intact, the skaters we have now, as good as they are, are not good enough to win night-in-night-out with Ben Scrivens or Mike Smith (this year's Mike Smith) in net. Part of the Detroit model requires a "good enough" netminder in net.
 

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Miss Bigfoot?


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Looks like they eat large Slovakian gentlemen

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I think Shaw has a bigger appetite for Slovaks. He was all up in Chara's grill in 2013.
 

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Bigfoot has as many goals as Hossa.....

And it's not even a contest if you consider how each of them do against the Wild.






...then, again, bigfoot live in Wild, not fair Hoss.
 

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And it's not even a contest if you consider how each of them do against the Wild.






...then, again, bigfoot live in Wild, not fair Hoss.

Yeah, if only we'd play a team called "higher plane of existence" Hoss would be dominating the stat sheet against them.
 

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Our skater depth is good, but not "win it all with Jason Labarbera" good. If Crawford is dropped, it's going to be a salary move, and that means in the best case scenario (with the cap going up significantly), Ditching Crawford to keep, say, Bickell or Oduya, means that the 'hawks, at best can afford a 1-2M goalie between the pipes--assuming they don't go with Darling or Raanta and I've hased out the issues with that if either is good enough to win a cup.

With Bobrovski signing a 7M+ extension (and him having a vezina to his name and no cups), the price for good, great, elite, and future HoF netminders appears to not be correcting and appears to be going up, as such, 1-2M is going to buy you less and less.

Even intact, the skaters we have now, as good as they are, are not good enough to win night-in-night-out with Ben Scrivens or Mike Smith (this year's Mike Smith) in net. Part of the Detroit model requires a "good enough" netminder in net.

But being able to keep Bickell and/or Oduya wouldn't be my reasoning to move Crawford. I mean, I wouldn't take either of those two guys at their cap hit next season if I had a choice anyways (and what will be Oduya's next season for whatever team signs him, which will probably be more than what it is now). I'd use their cap space, along withe cap space saved from not paying a goalie 6 million a year to keep a player like Sharp and/or Seabrook and sign another player or two. The real reasoning is that you don't need to spend 6 million on a goalie if you play like the Hawks do. You're better off using that cap space to improve the team in front of your goalie.

Bobrovsky is one of the best goalies in the league. And the Blue Jackets are a team that NEEDS to have one of the best goalies in the league. **** having no Cups (when will people finally stop using that as a measuring stick for any individual player, especially a goalie of all things), they aren't even in competition without a guy like him. He's asked to carry much more of the load than say a goalie in LA, San Jose, here, New Jersey (in years past),etc,etc. So I can understand them paying big money for that. Chicago isn't a team that needs to do that though.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, more often than not it's the team that makes the goalie, not the other way around. No one is going to look good with a team like Edmonton playing in front of them. Hasek wouldn't even look good playing with whatever the **** they have going on up there.
 

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^^^ Look back at when Lalime, old Khabi, Turco, Huet were playing behind a Hawk D. You like that? A 2 mil per goalie will turn into an annual experiment. That won't make anybody happy.
 

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Lalime didn't have the type of team the Hawks now have in front of him. Not saying he would've been good but that's not fair. Khabi was done and Huet was done. They were both older goalies at the end of their careers. In fact all of those players you listed were. Turco never got another job besides 5 awful games he played for Boston the season after he was here. Tell me where I said to go out and sign broken down goalies in the twilights of their careers.
 

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The fact is, Variable, if Crawford is ditched this offseason (let's be Frank (or better yet, let's not; he was a crackpot) there is no reason to ditch anyone on the roster while the season is going), it's not going to be to aquire better skater assets, or goalie assets--nor will it be for anyone else who is ditched while still under contract--it's going to be to drop salary to make room for Toews/Kane while still maintaining much of the core and critical resignings like Saad. in that respect they are going to be replaced on the cheap--be it cheap because they are new and unprove, or cheap because they are just not that good but someone upstairs thinks that the second coming of Pisani can fill a hole.

Can the 'hawks get it done with Raanta or Darling? While possible it really has yet to be seen and just because the 'hawks did it before with Niemi and Crawford, it doesn't necessarily mean they can do it with Raanta or Darling.
 

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9 pages on Brian "born to beat wild" Bickell.

9... represents how high he can count.
How and when exactly did he lose a toe?

I think Shaw has a bigger appetite for Slovaks. He was all up in Chara's grill in 2013.
Now it all makes sense. I've noticed that Hoss gets fidgety when he's seated on the bench next to Shaw. He's not afraid of Shaw assaulting his ears figuratively, but assaulting them literally.

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