Bulls interested in Darko Milicic?

[Deng Defense Force]

Darko? Fantastic.

Seriously, Darko?

White Kwame Brown is still white Kwame Brown.

 

[Chi-Town Brahma]

They're making a great move in not matching Asik's deal. Rockets are going to be paying Asik and Lin $30 mil combined in the 3rd year of their deals :lmao:

Agreed. Let's hope they don't change their minds & bring Asik back for that kind of cash.

 

[houheffna]

Lol...people on this forum are hilarious. What the hell were you expecting? Of course you pay Milicic no more than 20% over the life of his contract what you would have paid Asik, especially with the poison pill on the back end of Asik's contract. Why wouldn't you do that? Milicic, by the way, better offensive player than Asik is. Then again, so am I. Don't get me wrong, Milicic is not at all a good player...but he is a suitable replacement at a fraction of the costs.

 

[JosMin]

Lol...people on this forum are hilarious. What the hell were you expecting? Of course you pay Milicic no more than 20% over the life of his contract what you would have paid Asik, especially with the poison pill on the back end of Asik's contract. Why wouldn't you do that? Milicic, by the way, better offensive player than Asik is. Then again, so am I. Don't get me wrong, Milicic is not at all a good player...but he is a suitable replacement at a fraction of the costs.

This is like comparing an ingrown toenail to a rash, though. Which one would you rather have? Uh, neither. I don't think anyone is trying to truly compare Asik and Milicic's skill sets so much as they're anxious about the fact that our FO has completely hamstrung the roster and the fact that it's hard to make assessments with Rose out a majority of the season. I also agree that Milicic, while a below-average player, does offer similar defensive traits to Asik and a marginally more efficent offensive game at a much lower salary.

People need to understand that these "poison pill" contracts are meant to make it harder for teams to sign their own restricted free agents. The Rockets aren't having to pay Asik $15 million in the final year. Same goes for Lin's deal. I just wish we'd go ahead and say we're not going to resign Asik and let him walk.

*sigh* Lose Watson, Brewer, Korver, JLIII .... Adding Radmonovic, Teague (who I actually like a lot), Hinrich and potentially Milicic. Can somebody find me a trash can? I need to vomit.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

This is like comparing an ingrown toenail to a rash, though. Which one would you rather have? Uh, neither. I don't think anyone is trying to truly compare Asik and Milicic's skill sets so much as they're anxious

but that's kind of important because it's the point of the potential move

asik is being offered a terrible contract that bulls really don't want to deal with for a back up center, so they find a center who has similar qualities(and honestly is better in the offensive department) for a much cheaper price

it's a micro move, but it's a good one...be happy they're looking for a cheap option rather than overpaying for asik

about the fact that our FO has completely hamstrung the roster

lol@hamstrung the roster...i forgot how irreplacable guys like brewer,jl iii,and watson are

and the fact that it's hard to make assessments with Rose out a majority of the season.

uhh yaa....dont ya think that acts as a limitation regarding the ability to get free agents...same with trading...

I also agree that Milicic, while a below-average player, does offer similar defensive traits to Asik and a marginally more efficent offensive game at a much lower salary.

that's the whole point here

People need to understand that these "poison pill" contracts are meant to make it harder for teams to sign their own restricted free agents. The Rockets aren't having to pay Asik $15 million in the final year. Same goes for Lin's deal. I just wish we'd go ahead and say we're not going to resign Asik and let him walk.

1. unless asik's expiring contract is traded by houston(which is possible) then yes, houston does have to pay 15 million in the final year

2. it is very very likely that the bulls are letting asik walk, hence looking at a guy like darko

*sigh* Lose Watson, Brewer, Korver, JLIII .... Adding Radmonovic, Teague (who I actually like a lot), Hinrich and potentially Milicic. Can somebody find me a trash can? I need to vomit.

:lmao:

watson is a trashy,streaky shooter who's a dime a dozen....brewer is a slasher with no other offensive game whatsoever,who's a very good defender but with thibs, i think teague can become a good defender,same with hinrich....

jlii is awful...

the only one that should be missed is korver because he's the best 3 point shooter and he's basically 30% of that part of the game...you need a guy like him to really spread the floor

radmanovic helps...uh, a little bit...but this hasn't been adequately addressed imo....

 

[JosMin]

but that's kind of important because it's the point of the potential move

asik is being offered a terrible contract that bulls really don't want to deal with for a back up center, so they find a center who has similar qualities(and honestly is better in the offensive department) for a much cheaper price

it's a micro move, but it's a good one...be happy they're looking for a cheap option rather than overpaying for asik

Signing Darko Milicic is not, nor will ever be, a good move. I am happy they're looking at their options. Regardless, it's a horrible move for a horrible player. We're either stuck with a shitty contract or a shitty player. It's a lose-lose.

lol@hamstrung the roster...i forgot how irreplacable guys like brewer,jl iii,and watson are

When did I ever infer that Brewer, Watson, JLIII, etc, were irreplacable? Brewer and Watson were all cut because they're expiring, non-guaranteed deals, and Korver was traded for the same reason. Most of us will agree that Deng, Boozer and Noah's deals, as well as having to lock down Rose to a max deal, are what make it difficult for this roster to change shape at all.

uhh yaa....dont ya think that acts as a limitation regarding the ability to get free agents...same with trading...

Of course it does. But why on earth would you cut these guys with non-guaranteed deals who have continuity with the guys on the Bulls roster and bring in players who you're essentially paying the same thing that have no rapport with the team? Does that make sense to you? It's not like a guy like Radmonovic or Hinrich is going to make this team any better than, say Brewer or Korver would've. Why make the move for the sake of making a move?

that's the whole point here

Exactly, which is why I said that. We're in agreeance here, why quote it?

watson is a trashy,streaky shooter who's a dime a dozen....brewer is a slasher with no other offensive game whatsoever,who's a very good defender but with thibs, i think teague can become a good defender,same with hinrich....

jlii is awful...

the only one that should be missed is korver because he's the best 3 point shooter and he's basically 30% of that part of the game...you need a guy like him to really spread the floor

radmanovic helps...uh, a little bit...but this hasn't been adequately addressed imo....

You essentially agreed with everything I said about these players. We're replacing shit with shit. The problem is we're making deals to make deals. The only move that is really making us save money is Korver's trade, and from what I read, it's a $500K savings. That's a fucking drop in the hat. The team is still over the cap. I guess the only silver lining is that we're farther away from the luxury tax. I'm disappointed that we're worse off than we were last year, and it isn't because Rose will be out for a majority of the season. We have yet to address our real issues.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

Signing Darko Milicic is not, nor will ever be, a good move. I am happy they're looking at their options. Regardless, it's a horrible move for a horrible player. We're either stuck with a shitty contract or a shitty player. It's a lose-lose.

darko milicic is a better player than asik and is cheaper...it's a good move considering the circumstances and what can be done

though whether or not it's a "good" move is playing around with a semantics

it doesn't have to be getting oj mayo..imo

When did I ever infer that Brewer, Watson, JLIII, etc, were irreplacable? Brewer and Watson were all cut because they're expiring, non-guaranteed deals, and Korver was traded for the same reason. Most of us will agree that Deng, Boozer and Noah's deals, as well as having to lock down Rose to a max deal, are what make it difficult for this roster to change shape at all.

i know why they were cut..that wasn't the point...whatever

and duh on the bolded...that's why you're not going to see the bulls make any "good moves"..there are basically no assets and no cap flexibility...

Of course it does. But why on earth would you cut these guys with non-guaranteed deals who have continuity with the guys on the Bulls roster and bring in players who you're essentially paying the same thing that have no rapport with the team? Does that make sense to you? It's not like a guy like Radmonovic or Hinrich is going to make this team any better than, say Brewer or Korver would've. Why make the move for the sake of making a move?

uh, because they have expiring contracts,or are soon to expire?

they should've kept korver, but they did get a trade exception(i believe) from him

hinrich has been on the team before...

you really think "continuity" is such a big deal? you really think a player will have serious trouble assimilating with all the pre-season work and practice that goes along? you would have a point if there's another lockout, but there isn't....radamanovic is a bench player for christ's sake

Exactly, which is why I said that. We're in agreeance here, why quote it?

because you complain about it and don't seem to get it?

You essentially agreed with everything I said about these players. We're replacing shit with shit. The problem is we're making deals to make deals. The only move that is really making us save money is Korver's trade, and from what I read, it's a $500K savings. That's a fucking drop in the hat. The team is still over the cap. I guess the only silver lining is that we're farther away from the luxury tax. I'm disappointed that we're worse off than we were last year, and it isn't because Rose will be out for a majority of the season. We have yet to address our real issues.

regarding the first sentence...it kind of seemed like you had some real problem with the bench...i don't know what you wanted me to infer

and well, there's really no way you're going to get acutely under the cap unless you move/get rid of boozer,deng,noah, or rose(not happening)..and i dont think there's any team at this point that really is interested in boozer,deng,or noah...deng will be out with a wrist injury...boozer still has a few years on his crappy contract,is aging, and can't play D...noah might be attractive in a package, but at this point there's no real interest from a team

alot of the good FAs are already taken anyway(except for,like, courtney lee i guess lol), if you're really hoping by some miracle the bulls actually make a distinct move

i dont see the point in getting your feathers roughed up by moves that barely have any bearing on the cap or the team anyway...watson and jliii are completely expendable and worthless and were probably going to be gone soon enough , brewer is worth a little more but not a ton

the only move i had an issue with was getting rid of korver,but they did get the trade exception

that's the point

what were you expecting the bulls to do? sign oj mayo? with the money he wanted? no way

brandon roy maybe? his knees are shot..and the bulls have enough injuries as it is...i could see roy easily getting hurt again

courtney lee? that's about the only good move(as you would call it) that i really see

the bulls don't really have alot of wiggle room

and yes the bulls are worse than last year and not because of rose...it's because deng will be out as well

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

i mean, seriously, we(and many others) are in agreement that the FO has pretty much cuffed the team with contracts for boozer,deng,and noah

since this is so, then WTF do you expect the bulls to do, other than some miniscule re-tooling and filling some needs in the draft?

the bulls aren't going to commit too much money, otherwise they get into the luxury tax and they are only making the situation worse

 

[BNB]

i mean, seriously, we(and many others) are in agreement that the FO has pretty much cuffed the team with contracts for boozer,deng,and noah

since this is so, then WTF do you expect the bulls to do, other than some miniscule re-tooling and filling some needs in the draft?

the bulls aren't going to commit too much money, otherwise they get into the luxury tax and they are only making the situation worse

Pretty much.

I'm not understanding the complaining that's going on here. The moves the Bulls are looking to make now are moves to save money. I'm sure we can all agree that the Bulls won't be winning the title next season.. So might as well cut ties with Watson, Brewer and Korver who would have made a combined 13-14 million next season and replace them with 1 year guys who won't be making much. The FO, though they probably won't say it, likely feel like next season is a lost cause as well. The moves they're making clearly show it.

Also, I don't get the frustration over the Bulls signing/looking at signing bench players for depth. We only have 9 guys on the roster currently who would be ready to play next season. We need to fill out the roster somehow.. and not all 12-14 guys on the team will be starter caliber. The Bulls aren't even looking at these guys as long term commitments. It's not like they gave Vladamir a 4 year 20 million dollar deal. It's a 1 yr vet min deal just so we can fill out the roster. He won't be here after next season.. calm down.

look at the FA market right now. Who's out there that could come in and make a huge impact? Pretty much no one. So since we need 3 more guys to fill out the roster, expect them to be 1-2 year cheap deals for shitty/old players.

 

[Chi-Town Brahma]

Pretty much.

I'm not understanding the complaining that's going on here. The moves the Bulls are looking to make now are moves to save money. I'm sure we can all agree that the Bulls won't be winning the title next season.. So might as well cut ties with Watson, Brewer and Korver who would have made a combined 13-14 million next season and replace them with 1 year guys who won't be making much. The FO, though they probably won't say it, likely feel like next season is a lost cause as well. The moves they're making clearly show it.

Also, I don't get the frustration over the Bulls signing/looking at signing bench players for depth. We only have 9 guys on the roster currently who would be ready to play next season. We need to fill out the roster somehow.. and not all 12-14 guys on the team will be starter caliber. The Bulls aren't even looking at these guys as long term commitments. It's not like they gave Vladamir a 4 year 20 million dollar deal. It's a 1 yr vet min deal just so we can fill out the roster. He won't be here after next season.. calm down.

look at the FA market right now. Who's out there that could come in and make a huge impact? Pretty much no one. So since we need 3 more guys to fill out the roster, expect them to be 1-2 year cheap deals for shitty/old players.

Couldn't agree more. As the weeks have gone on it's becoming for evident. Especially with them, more than likely, being smart and falling back on matching Asik's offer sheet proposal. Seeing us sign a guy like Radmanovic or even Milicic is ok for one year.

Also, the rumor that the Bulls could be the landing spot for Marco Belinelli wouldn't hurt either. If anything that will make the off-season a little bit better. Not that it was going to be a "blockbuster" off-season for us from the start anyway. Plus apparently Michael Redd is down to the Suns & Bulls as where he will sign. We get Belinelli, Redd is almost a lock for the Suns.

 

[Diddy1122]

The 2012-13 season was lost the second Rose hit the hardwood in April. It's time for every fan to accept that fact & stop bitching about every single move that is being made. With Darko, you get a cheap replacement for Asik. Radmonovic gives us a good 3pt shooter, which we needed with Korver being traded, & also at a fraction of the price. It blows since we've been so good the last 2 seasons, but we likely will not be contending for atleast another 2 seasons & it would not be prudent to start paying the LT now, when the mega penalties kick in after next season.

Remember teams that were over the LT tax before year 3 of the CBA get hit with WORSE penalities than teams that were under it. The Lakers, Heat, Knicks, & now the Nets are going to be raped with taxes in the coming seasons, so much so that Miami & the Nets probably won't even make a profit.

 

[Axl Rose]

who says we even get darko...he'll probably sign with the heat

i dont even care darko sucks i just dont want to match asik

 

[Glide2keva]

Great we would get the two players from that draft that nobody wants.

 

[Glide2keva]

Because Darko has been so great, yeah it'd be ironic but I think he sucks

At one point Miami had Shaq, Zo and Leattner #1, 2, & 3 in the same draft. First time that has ever happened in the league.