Bulls vs Miami - Next Big Rivalry

[FirstTimer]

Go back and read what I've written. I even went as far as saying "They didn't accomplish anything". Reading is fundamental.

Ok so why keep bringing it up as if they did anything...?

They didn't accomplish anything in the Celtics series.

The playoff didn't carry over because they started the next season like dog shit.

Playoff experience means jack shit and I've already given numerous examples as to why and how little it means when looking at some playoff results.

It's not like he shot a bad percentage on the three's he did take. I bet your grandfather couldn't hit 38% on 83 three point shots in the NBA. Deng can shoot the three and drain a decent percentage of what he take. You're making it seem like he can't hit a three point shot to save his life, when that is not true.

He's a career 31% shooter from three. I'll take his career sample size over the 1 year 83 attempt sample size any day of the week.

I was on my IPhone when I typed that message and took the play-off average for this past season with the Bucks accidentally. My fail.

So not only can't you read correctly but you are incapable of operating an IPhone!

Splendid!

Still the 8th seed after everyone wrote the Bulls off.

But I thought the Bulls were "clearly on their way" to finishing the season better than the last one? How could they ever be written off?!? Or how could their coach be close to being fired?!?

They were a marginal team, I never said otherwise. All I was saying is that they were a better team than the 08-09 Bulls until the injuries came. They got off to a slow start but really picked it up until getting destroyed by injuries.

They never "picked it up". They were a below .500 team until the injuries kicked in. They made a hell of a a run after Noah came back but it's not like they were even at .500 when he got hurt.

Look at the records.

Evidence by records at certain points of the season does no good. That 10 game losing streak in the second half and having our main guys out during the most important part of the season is what derailed any hope of getting more wins.

Again...The Bulls were a sub .500 teams most of the season. Even BEFORE the 10 game losing streak. How hard is that to grasp? The 10 game losing streak game in Feb/March. The Bulls didn't play an above .500 month until January.

Oh yeah, 19+23=42

Halfway would be 41. OMGZERS! And there's your fail. See? We all do it.

Yeah because clearly me counting the 42 game mark of the Bulls as the "halfway" point of the season would be WAY off...and couldn't be explained by a simple typo..... it's not like I was looking at the stats from a guy from the wrong season or anything....

 

[Undisputed]

Ok so why keep bringing it up as if they did anything...?

They didn't accomplish anything in the Celtics series.

The playoff didn't carry over because they started the next season like dog shit.

Playoff experience means jack shit and I've already given numerous examples as to why and how little it means when looking at some playoff results.

I disagree. I too have given reasons that you disagree with.

He's a career 31% shooter from three. I'll take his career sample size over the 1 year 83 attempt sample size any day of the week.

Like I said, he's been getting better.

But I thought the Bulls were "clearly on their way" to finishing the season better than the last one? How could they ever be written off?!? Or how could their coach be close to being fired?!?

Again...The Bulls were a sub .500 teams most of the season. Even BEFORE the 10 game losing streak. How hard is that to grasp? The 10 game losing streak game in Feb/March. The Bulls didn't play an above .500 month until January.

They made a run to .500 after that losing streak in the second half, that's an impressive feat. That record could've been even better had all those injuries never happened after the all-star break. The Bulls were 31-27 before that 10 game losing streak, which was due to the entire starting line-up being out or banged up. It's safe to say they had a really good chance at outperforming 08-09 had the injuries not happened.

clearly me counting the 42 game mark of the Bulls as the "halfway" point of the season would be WAY off...and couldn't be explained by a simple typo..... it's not like I was looking at the stats from a guy from the wrong season or anything....

I admitted my fail.

I just thought it was funny how you were giving a "math lesson" only to mess up on some math in the same post. Typo or not, you failed in an equally humorous way.

 

[FirstTimer]

I disagree. I too have given reasons that you disagree with.

Because it's not backed up by anything. There were no visible results. There was no improvement of the team because of it. Your argument essentially boils down to the team getting mystical experience points like they are all WoW characters.

Like I said, he's been getting better.

.....Yeah he's no longer shooting 26% yeah!

They made a run to .500 after that losing streak in the second half, that's an impressive feat.

I never said it wasn't. My point is that the Bulls were a team, even when fully healthy, that was hovering around or below the .500 mark all season. Blaming the final .500 record on injuries alone(which is what you are seemingly still trying to do) is asinine because the team was below .500 or barely above it before the injuries even hit. The coach almost lost his job and they weren't that impressive even before Noah went down, and a few others.

On top of that the Bulls had already lost somewhere in the area of 5 straight games before Rose, Deng, or Hinrich missed any time with injuries during that stretch. Missing Noah sucked, but a few weeks before hand the Bulls went 5-2 with Noah out of the lineup. Bottom line is the Bulls just played shitty basketball for the stretch even with 4/5'ths of the starting lineup intact.

It's not like the Bulls having a losing streak this past season was surprising. They had losing streaks of 4 and 5 games with the lineup fully intact before the collapse in February/March

I admitted my fail.

Yeah after 2-3 posts of not even realizing you weren't even looking at the correct fucking year

I just thought it was funny how you were giving a "math lesson" only to mess up on some math in the same post. Typo or not, you failed in an equally humorous way.

Typo =/= to failing at math/reading the wrong year for statistics.

2+23=4. OMGZ TYPO!

Nice try.

 

[Undisputed]

Because it's not backed up by anything. There were no visible results. There was no improvement of the team because of it. Your argument essentially boils down to the team getting mystical experience points like they are all WoW characters.

You think play-off experience in the NBA means nothing to a player...I know. I'm not going to beat a dead horse like you're trying to do with the argument. Once again, this is one of those things that you or I can't prove. You've got as much visible results as I have, but I'm sure in your own mind you've been spitting out basketball gospel. :lmao: The fattie complex strikes again.

I never said it wasn't. My point is that the Bulls were a team, even when fully healthy, that was hovering around or below the .500 mark all season. Blaming the final .500 record on injuries alone(which is what you are seemingly still trying to do) is asinine because the team was below .500 or barely above it before the injuries even hit. The coach almost lost his job and they weren't that impressive even before Noah went down, and a few others.

On top of that the Bulls had already lost somewhere in the area of 5 straight games before Rose, Deng, or Hinrich missed any time with injuries during that stretch. Missing Noah sucked, but a few weeks before hand the Bulls went 5-2 with Noah out of the lineup. Bottom line is the Bulls just played shitty basketball for the stretch even with 4/5'ths of the starting lineup intact.

It's not like the Bulls having a losing streak this past season was surprising. They had losing streaks of 4 and 5 games with the lineup fully intact before the collapse in February/March

31-27 before the losing streak. The Bulls had every chance to surpass the record they had with the '08-'09 team while you've been trying to make it seem like it was an impossible thing to do.

That's all you're getting here because nothing else needs to be said. Especially considering how tired this argument has become.

Yeah after 2-3 posts of not even realizing you weren't even looking at the correct fucking year

Your math fails you again. It was one post with one mistake.

Typo =/= to failing at math/reading the wrong year for statistics.

2+23=4. OMGZ TYPO!

Nice try.

You failed pretty hard. Don't ever be a math teacher if you look at 19+23=42 and it doesn't look wrong to you immediately. That's elementary math that can be added by looking at it. As long as you don't teach math, I won't be a statitician.

That's like me saying, "Learn how to spull! Here's your English lesson!"

 

[FirstTimer]

You think play-off experience in the NBA means nothing to a player...I know. I'm not going to beat a dead horse like you're trying to do with the argument. Once again, this is one of those things that you or I can't prove. You've got as much visible results as I have, but I'm sure in your own mind you've been spitting out basketball gospel. :lmao: The fattie complex strikes again.

Yeah and calling me a fattyy doesn't make it so.

31-27 before the losing streak.

OH EM GE! Championship!

The Bulls had every chance to surpass the record they had with the '08-'09 team while you've been trying to make it seem like it was an impossible thing to do.

Yeah if only every NBA team could turn the Injury setting to "Off".

That's all you're getting here because nothing else needs to be said. Especially considering how tired this argument has become.

Yeah it's become tired because you have no sensible counter argument to the Bulls failboat for the first 3 months of the season when no one was hurt.

Your math fails you again.

Posts #33 and #38.

By my count that's two posts sticking to the "Salmons 17PPG" BS.

 

[Undisputed]

Yeah it's become tired because you have no sensible counter argument to the Bulls failboat for the first 3 months of the season when no one was hurt.

I have sensible arguments, it's just pointless to present them over and over, which this has become. We both have had sensible arguments on the issue, it just comes down to none of us willing to take the others side.

Let's stick a fork in this discussion. There's really no point in keeping it alive at this point. Online debates become a stalemate after a while and just turn into flame fests which we are warming up for.

Friends.

 

[FirstTimer]

Let's stick a fork in this discussion. There's really no point in keeping it alive at this point. Online debates become a stalemate after a while and just turn into flame fests which we are warming up for.

Pun?

Friends.

Only if you're buying.

:kick:

:beerbang:

 

[Undisputed]

Pun?

That came out so wrong. :smh::lmao:

Only if you're buying.

:kick:

:beerbang:

I'm only buying if it's some Sam Adams.

 

[FirstTimer]

That came out so wrong. :smh::lmao:



I'm only buying if it's some Sam Adams.

..what kind?

 

[DewsSox79]

maybe. time will tell

 

[chs234]

Bulls will not be the Heat's rivals. i laughed when i heard it.