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You're talking about the regular season again.

Your rotation got destroyed, including Arrieta after the wild card game.

Again, I'm talking about your pitching stats during the PLAYOFFS.

The postseason is a whole other ballgame, bruh. Winning 100 games during the regular season means nothing if you're not built to win a best of 5 or best of 7 against the best teams in the league.

Quite frankly, the Cubs pitching staff doesn't scare anybody.

You don't pitch well or poorly in the post season unless you actually MAKE the playoffs which requires good pitching in the REGULAR season. Good Lord, you make Brett look like a baseball genius. No wonder there are only 4 or 5 guys posting in the Sox Forum.
 

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You don't pitch well or poorly in the post season unless you actually MAKE the playoffs which requires good pitching in the REGULAR season. Good Lord, you make Brett look like a baseball genius. No wonder there are only 4 or 5 guys posting in the Sox Forum.

It doesn't take a genius to figure out the Cubs will make the postseason this year.

In fact, it's reasonable to assume the Cubs will win close to 100 games.

And what will 100 wins get you? A playoff spot along with 9 other teams. Big....whoop.

If you actually want to, you know... get into the World Series and win it, you're going to need better pitching than what you had last year.

And I'm sorry to break this to you, but John freaking Lackey is not enough of an upgrade to matter in the playoffs.

I realize winning championships aren't particularly important to Cubs fans. I mean, we've only been waiting for 3 generations of humanity. I guess you guys are ok with just regular season wins. You guys can sit around the whole winter bragging about how many regular season games you won. You and Bulls fans have a lot in common. :derbulls:
 

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It doesn't take a genius to figure out the Cubs will make the postseason this year.

In fact, it's reasonable to assume the Cubs will win close to 100 games.

And what will 100 wins get you? A playoff spot along with 9 other teams. Big....whoop.

If you actually want to, you know... get into the World Series and win it, you're going to need better pitching than what you had last year.

And I'm sorry to break this to you, but John freaking Lackey is not enough of an upgrade to matter in the playoffs.

I realize winning championships aren't particularly important to Cubs fans. I mean, we've only been waiting for 3 generations of humanity. I guess you guys are ok with just regular season wins. You guys can sit around the whole winter bragging about how many regular season games you won. You and Bulls fans have a lot in common. :derbulls:

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It doesn't take a genius to figure out the Cubs will make the postseason this year.

In fact, it's reasonable to assume the Cubs will win close to 100 games.

And what will 100 wins get you? A playoff spot along with 9 other teams. Big....whoop.

If you actually want to, you know... get into the World Series and win it, you're going to need better pitching than what you had last year.

And I'm sorry to break this to you, but John freaking Lackey is not enough of an upgrade to matter in the playoffs.

I realize winning championships aren't particularly important to Cubs fans I mean, we've only been waiting for 3 generations of humanity. I guess you guys are ok with just regular season wins. You guys can sit around the whole winter bragging about how many regular season games you won. You and Bulls fans have a lot in common. :derbulls:

Championships must be so, so important to Sox fans....after all, they have so many, many more championships than us poor Cub fans. The Sox win them just like Jordan's Bulls or the current Blackhawks, right? Oh, wait...what's that...how many have they won since 1917...what was that? Did you say one? One fucking championship....but wait, there's more. Up until 2005 the Sox had not won a single post season series since 1917 and since 2005, they have not won a single playoff series. One year, they caught lightning in a bottle and won everything....never did shit before and haven't done shit since. Yet Sox fans talk like they're big time winners...."we only support our team when they're good". Well, good luck with that.
 

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You're talking about the regular season again.

Your rotation got destroyed, including Arrieta after the wild card game.

Again, I'm talking about your pitching stats during the PLAYOFFS.

The postseason is a whole other ballgame, bruh. Winning 100 games during the regular season means nothing if you're not built to win a best of 5 or best of 7 against the best teams in the league.

Quite frankly, the Cubs pitching staff doesn't scare anybody.

That doesn't mean a whole lot by a sample size in a best of seven series. That was a bunch of young kids who had never been there, and neither had Arrieta. You hope to build off of that. Lester had a far less pitching staff in Boston and won a WS in 2013.

Greinke and Kershaw scared people and couldn't even get to the WS, and I am pretty sure that David Price doesn't have a very good record in the payoffs either, so to argue that you have to scare people in the playoffs doesn't mean much, since obviously, between pitchers like Lester, Price, Arrieta, Hernandez, Fernandez, Kershaw, Sale, and Greinke, you have arguably most of the best pitchers in the game, and out of that group, Lester is the only one with a ring(s), and Price is the only other one with a WS trip.

It is all about pitching adequately, and doing all of the other things collectively that net you a WS. To say that the Mets right now would do the same thing, or that Lester and Arrieta would pitch the same way is simply foolish. No one knows how that series would play out again. :popcorn:
 

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It doesn't take a genius to figure out the Cubs will make the postseason this year.

In fact, it's reasonable to assume the Cubs will win close to 100 games.

And what will 100 wins get you? A playoff spot along with 9 other teams. Big....whoop.

If you actually want to, you know... get into the World Series and win it, you're going to need better pitching than what you had last year.

And I'm sorry to break this to you, but John freaking Lackey is not enough of an upgrade to matter in the playoffs.

I realize winning championships aren't particularly important to Cubs fans. I mean, we've only been waiting for 3 generations of humanity. I guess you guys are ok with just regular season wins. You guys can sit around the whole winter bragging about how many regular season games you won. You and Bulls fans have a lot in common. :derbulls:

What 100 wins will get you, in fact, probably what 90 wins will get you, is a trip to the playoffs, and that is all you can ask for. It is impossible to win a WS without making the post-season, and to say that the Cubs staff right now is not good enough may be true, but I guess we shall find out, but I guess other moves could be made at the deadline.

I don't know if you are old enough to remember in 2006, the year after the White Sox won the WS, that the Cardinals limped into the playoffs, and won the WS with Jeff Suppan, Jeff Weaver, and Anthony Reyes on the mound.

In fact, the St Louis thought so much of them, that Weaver and Suppan were not on the Cardinals team in 2007, and Reyes sported a 5-8 record and 5.06 ERA in 2006, and a robust 2-14 record, with a 6.08 ERA in 2007. Pretty scary staff....huh?
 

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It doesn't take a genius to figure out the Cubs will make the postseason this year.

In fact, it's reasonable to assume the Cubs will win close to 100 games.

And what will 100 wins get you? A playoff spot along with 9 other teams. Big....whoop.

If you actually want to, you know... get into the World Series and win it, you're going to need better pitching than what you had last year.

And I'm sorry to break this to you, but John freaking Lackey is not enough of an upgrade to matter in the playoffs.

I realize winning championships aren't particularly important to Cubs fans. I mean, we've only been waiting for 3 generations of humanity. I guess you guys are ok with just regular season wins. You guys can sit around the whole winter bragging about how many regular season games you won. You and Bulls fans have a lot in common. :derbulls:

John freakin Lackey was good enough to beat the Cubs terrific lineup in the playoffs last year
 

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John freakin Lackey was good enough to beat the Cubs terrific lineup in the playoffs last year

John freaking Lackey has 20 post season starts and appeared in 23 games. He has a 3.11 ERA. I know, I know to ChiSox that doesn't matter because the Mets are gonna dominate and stuff and the White Sox are a power hitter away with their team .306 OBP. I hope he is trolling because he is make The Hawk look like a message board God.
 

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John freaking Lackey has 20 post season starts and appeared in 23 games. He has a 3.11 ERA. I know, I know to ChiSox that doesn't matter because the Mets are gonna dominate and stuff and the White Sox are a power hitter away with their team .306 OBP. I hope he is trolling because he is make The Hawk look like a message board God.

You call it trolling when you and your butt buddy wax ignorance on the Sox board? The words "two-faced hypocrites" comes to mind...

Anyway, I wish the Cubs luck winning a championship with an average starting rotation. God knows you need it.

p.s. Remember, the regular season has no relevance on the playoffs in baseball. None. Zilch.

p.p.s. Mets were lousy for half the season and swept a 99-win team for the pennant without breaking a sweat.
 

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John freaking Lackey has 20 post season starts and appeared in 23 games. He has a 3.11 ERA. I know, I know to ChiSox that doesn't matter because the Mets are gonna dominate and stuff and the White Sox are a power hitter away with their team .306 OBP. I hope he is trolling because he is make The Hawk look like a message board God.
No one can make The Hawk look like a message board god, not even ChiSoxCity.
 

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You call it trolling when you and your butt buddy wax ignorance on the Sox board? The words "two-faced hypocrites" comes to mind...

Anyway, I wish the Cubs luck winning a championship with an average starting rotation. God knows you need it.

p.s. Remember, the regular season has no relevance on the playoffs in baseball. None. Zilch.

p.p.s. Mets were lousy for half the season and swept a 99-win team for the pennant without breaking a sweat.

What? Cubs won 97 games. Also, congrats. The Mets were better than the Cubs for 4 games last year. I see little relevance on what that has to do with this year. The Mets got weaker as a team overall.

P.P.S. You still have no clue what you are talking about. Whats going on? Did you lose your meds?
 

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What? Cubs won 97 games. Also, congrats. The Mets were better than the Cubs for 4 games last year. I see little relevance on what that has to do with this year. The Mets got weaker as a team overall.

P.P.S. You still have no clue what you are talking about. Whats going on? Did you lose your meds?

What is this drivel?

Now you're calling the NLCS "4 games last year"?

This comment just proves what I've always known about Cubs fans.
 

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What is this drivel?

Now you're calling the NLCS "4 games last year"?

This comment just proves what I've always known about Cubs fans.

Did they not beat the Cubs in 4 games?
 

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You call it trolling when you and your butt buddy wax ignorance on the Sox board? The words "two-faced hypocrites" comes to mind...

Anyway, I wish the Cubs luck winning a championship with an average starting rotation. God knows you need it.

p.s. Remember, the regular season has no relevance on the playoffs in baseball. None. Zilch.

p.p.s. Mets were lousy for half the season and swept a 99-win team for the pennant without breaking a sweat.

And that same team got pasted by an inferior starting staff from the Royals in the WS.

By the way, the regular season has all of the relevance on the playoffs. If you don't succeed in the regular season, you don't get into the playoffs.
 

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You don't pitch well or poorly in the post season unless you actually MAKE the playoffs which requires good pitching in the REGULAR season. Good Lord, you make Brett look like a baseball genius. No wonder there are only 4 or 5 guys posting in the Sox Forum.

So what, a few or so less than the Cubs Forum. Please.
 

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So what, a few or so less than the Cubs Forum. Please.

LOL...now THAT is funny. Three times as many posts in here and the threads are almost three times as long. Most would think it's because there are far more Cubs fans than Sox fans and while that is true, it's not the real reason. Other than you, there's not many intelligent thoughts being tossed around over there....probably why you spend so much time in the Cubs Forum.

I guess they're all waiting for their team to be good again....


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And that same team got pasted by an inferior starting staff from the Royals in the WS.

By the way, the regular season has all of the relevance on the playoffs. If you don't succeed in the regular season, you don't get into the playoffs.

Yes, the Mets got pasted... IN THE WORLD SERIES. 1945... that was the last time you made it that far and lost.

Your goal as a Cubs fan should be getting to the World Series and winning it. Not winning a bunch of regular season games and hoping for the best. The Cubs obviously need better starting pitchers, which is something that should have been done prior to the trade deadline LAST YEAR. All you guys are doing is delaying any chance of winning it all by throwing average starters at the best lineups in the MLB during a best of 5 or 7. The Cubs rely on scoring runs to win, something that is difficult to do against elite pitching in the playoffs. The Mets don't need to score many runs to win another pennant with the pitching they have.
 

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