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Average really isn't pushing the lower limits at all. It's what he is. Look at his WAR's, since you want to use that stat so badly. 2.1, 3, 1.8, 4.1. That 4.1 really stands out... wonder why? Here's why. Because he only played CF and CF has the best replacement value of all the OF positions and his UZR was the highest it ever will be. This year is going to really bring Byrd back down to earth and it will show you what he really is--an average player.

You were the one who said I was an idiot for not thinking he'd repeat last year's performance this year in a different thread... now you are saying he WILL be brought "back down to earth"?
 

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You were the one who said I was an idiot for not thinking he'd repeat last year's performance this year in a different thread... now you are saying he WILL be brought "back down to earth"?

In terms of offense, yes he will repeat, because well... he's not that great. But he got a lot of his value from playing CF everyday and having a high UZR. That won't continue this year.
 

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In terms of offense, yes he will repeat, because well... he's not that great. But he got a lot of his value from playing CF everyday and having a high UZR. That won't continue this year.

He'll be playing CF everyday this year too... why will his UZR automatically get worse?
 

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He'll be playing CF everyday this year too... why will his UZR automatically get worse?

So first you say that BJax will be up here by like June or July... now Byrd is playing CF every day? Which is it? There is no way Byrd plays 151 games at CF again this year. We have too much OF talent for that to happen.

His UZR won't "automatically" get worse, but he won't repeat his 9.3 UZR, because he isn't that good of a defender. Plus, he's 33; he's getting up there in years.
 

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So first you say that BJax will be up here by like June or July... now Byrd is playing CF every day? Which is it? There is no way Byrd plays 151 games at CF again this year. We have too much OF talent for that to happen.

His UZR won't "automatically" get worse, but he won't repeat his 9.3 UZR, because he isn't that good of a defender. Plus, he's 33; he's getting up there in years.

Jackson was converted to RF so he could get up here quicker. I thought you meant he'd be playing LF and RF too, so I replied wrong.

Jackson is supposed to be between May and July though, the Cubs are putting him on the Castro course.

What I'm pretty sure is going to happen when Jackson is up is that he will take over RF, Byrd will stay in CF, and Soriano in LF. Colvin and Fukudome will both be benched, with Colvin being part of a rotation with 1B, LF, CF, and RF, and Fukudome possibly being traded, or just simply benched but getting some AB's still.
 

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Jackson was converted to RF so he could get up here quicker. I thought you meant he'd be playing LF and RF too, so I replied wrong.

Jackson is supposed to be between May and July though, the Cubs are putting him on the Castro course.

What I'm pretty sure is going to happen when Jackson is up is that he will take over RF, Byrd will stay in CF, and Soriano in LF. Colvin and Fukudome will both be benched, with Colvin being part of a rotation with 1B, LF, CF, and RF, and Fukudome possibly being traded, or just simply benched but getting some AB's still.

Bold = Bullshit.

He's played 18 games at RF. That's not exactly "converted."

When will you understand that Castro is the exception not the rule? He came up because he was tearing up AA and because we needed that "spark." We have enough OFers... it's very unlikely that BJax comes in May or June. Hell, Castro wasn't even supposed to come up in May. He was supposed to be a September call up. So to say he is on the "Castro Path" is pretty dumb, since the Cubs didn't even mean to do that.

Why would Byrd just stay in CF? Why wouldn't we sit him vs. RHP? That makes a whole lot more sense. That makes a hell of a lot more sense. But that requires one to think and not just pull shit out of one's ass.
 

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When will you understand that Castro is the exception not the rule? He came up because he was tearing up AA and because we needed that "spark." We have enough OFers... it's very unlikely that BJax comes in May or June. Hell, Castro wasn't even supposed to come up in May. He was supposed to be a September call up. So to say he is on the "Castro Path" is pretty dumb, since the Cubs didn't even mean to do that..

Who the hell said Castro was the rule? It's been said multiple times that the Cubs are putting him on the Castro path where he will start at AA and be promoted between May and July. I didn't make it up. It's not like I'm just saying he will be up because I want him to be.
 

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Who the hell said Castro was the rule? It's been said multiple times that the Cubs are putting him on the Castro path where he will start at AA and be promoted between May and July. I didn't make it up. It's not like I'm just saying he will be up because I want him to be.

You are acting like every top prospect will be like Castro. That's not gonna happen. If it has been said multiple times, link me. When you can't find it, I would just like to say that it is nothing more than a silly rumor, probably started by some blogger.

In fact, I would just like to link you to this, that pretty much makes all your points look stupid.
 

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You are acting like every top prospect will be like Castro. That's not gonna happen. If it has been said multiple times, link me. When you can't find it, I would just like to say that it is nothing more than a silly rumor, probably started by some blogger.

In fact, I would just like to link you to this, that pretty much makes all your points look stupid.

That link says nothing. It says that Byrd says he's keeping his CF job. It never says that Jackson won't be called up. Try again.

And it was in Bruce Levine's chat multiple times before, but it would take a while to find which ones he said that the Cubs are doing that in.
 

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That link says nothing. It says that Byrd says he's keeping his CF job. It never says that Jackson won't be called up. Try again.

And it was in Bruce Levine's chat multiple times before, but it would take a while to find which ones he said that the Cubs are doing that in.

Bruce Levine doesn't work for the Cubs. He speculates. Try again.
 

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Bruce Levine doesn't work for the Cubs. He speculates. Try again.

Byrd doesn't decide who is called up and when they are. Try again.

And right, when says say "are", he's making shit up, OK. Levine actually has sources, y'know.
 
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Byrd doesn't decide who is called up and when they are. Try again.

And right, when says say "are", he's making shit up, OK. Levine actually has sources, y'know.

Why don't you just link me to something that says it then? It can be from a source of Levine's, even. If this is really true, I don't think you would have to go to a chat, because that's pretty big news. I would think there would be an article.
 

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6. Brett Jackson, Cubs: Taken in the first round in 2009, Jackson jumped on the fast track by making it to Double-A in his first full season. While his individual tools may not grade out as plus, he can do a little bit of everything. He hit 12 homers and stole 30 bases last year, and there should be more power coming. While he strikes out a lot, he'll also draw some walks and he's capable of playing all over the outfield. With Brandon Guyer gone, Jackson could be the first outfielder the Cubs call up from the Minors when the need arises.
Straight from MLB.com

So how do we know that the need will be there? Can we predict injuries and slumps now? Who should I take to win the Kentucky Derby?

tyler (tn)



If the Cubs can somehoew deal Fukudome do you see the Cubs pulling up Brett Jackson?
Bruce Levine (1:06 PM)




Brett Jackson will begin the season in the minors.
If this is what you are referring to. That is pure speculation.

Big Ant (Madison,Wi.)



can Bret Jackson break camp leading off for the 2011 Cubs.If not who will??
Bruce Levine (1:06 PM)




He needs some time in the minors. At least a couple months at Double-A. That would also make Byrd a fourth outfielder. I can hear him squawking right now.

This also throws out your RF theory and your Byrd will stay a starter theory. Man, I'm on fiiiiiire!
 
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In terms of offense, yes he will repeat, because well... he's not that great. But he got a lot of his value from playing CF everyday and having a high UZR. That won't continue this year.

:rolleyes: Please dont go into the sox forum telling members there they cannot predict baseball when you infact are doing it right now. typical.
 

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:rolleyes: Please dont go into the sox forum telling members there they cannot predict baseball when you infact are doing it right now. typical.

Things that matter and that well... can be predicted. Whoeverthehellitwas was predicting W-L. A) Doesn't matter. B) Can't be predicted very well either
 

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Things that matter and that well... can be predicted. Whoeverthehellitwas was predicting W-L. A) Doesn't matter. B) Can't be predicted very well either

as alot of the "predictions" you make people believe dont matter.
 

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