Can Ryan Poles zero in on the Justin Fields' Travis Kelce?

[SugarWalls]

Yes all the bears need to do is fiend their ‘Kelce.’ You know, the guy that’s the best TE in the league. ?

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

When is Tarik Cohen due back from injury? 2023?

2027

 

[playthrough2001]

If we are going to do KC comparisons, I would rather see them find Fields his own Tyreek Hill.

Put that canon arm to some use and completely change the way defenses play the Bears.

There are games where Hill disappears. Kelce is a constant force. He always seems open when a big first down is needed.

I’d love a Hill clone too but a monstrous, consistently open target will help Fields develop more quickly.

 

[modo]

nnot sure he is literally talking about a TE. I think he wants a sure handed motherfucker that can bail out the QB......that can be a WR

 

[Mighty Joe Young]

This ^^^ all damn day!!!

Fields spent 2021 running for his life rather than developing. Mustipher was terrible last season and by terrible I mean he was horrific. Chicago doesn't have a starting caliber LT on this roster. Jenkins, in my opinion, is probably a solid Guard when it's all said and done. Borom had flashes but shouldn't be handed a starting job. Is Whitehair that good? I personally dont think so.

Take the "fan" out of the analysis and just look at traits and situation.

Every lineman was playing in an offense that didn't know what they fuck they wanted to do on the offensive line. The fact that Nagy the fraud fired Harry Hiestand, one of the best O-line coaches in all of football, after one year is proof of it. So that's the situation. Now look at traits.

• Whitehair - regressed hard at a position he once was a Pro Bowl alternate in. Got pushed around a LOT. Contract is too cumbersome to cut him pre June 1st (post June 1st might make sense), so you likely are stuck with him another year. So get an heir-apparent ready behind him that will also push him to regain form and see if something is still there, or if he's just done. Also, some in the fandom have suggested moving him back to center, but you can't do that - not only did he have persistent snapping issues, but he was regularly blowing the line calls; an absolute no-no for the position.
• Mustipher - Gets line calls right, but gets absolutely bulldozed. Just not an NFL center.
• Daniels - He's out of contract, and also horribly inconsistent. Sometimes he looks great, and other times he's getting driven back into Fields' face. The issue with re-signing him is another team is likely going to be out of town stupid, and overpay for him based on the potential. He's not worth the risk unless he comes back on a team friendly deal, and even then, can't be counted on - he's basically another Whitehair with a potential for upside.
• Jenkins - had a rough start, but overall showed improvement with each start and showed a level of physicality none of the other linemen possess. I think he is ok at either LT or RT. RARELY gets put on his heels.
• Borom - had light feet and was successfully blocking and passing off defenders. Like Jenkins, RARELY gets put on his heels.

I think those are the linemen worth mentioning as the rest are just fodder really. Looking at that, you have your tackles. I wouldn't change a damn thing about Borom and Jenkins, except maybe flipping them, but you may also not need to.

The interior is a mess and needs major help. You need 3 more with Jenkins' physicality to be starting in the interior.

 

[Penny Traitor]

There are games where Hill disappears. Kelce is a constant force. He always seems open when a big first down is needed.

I’d love a Hill clone too but a monstrous, consistently open target will help Fields develop more quickly.

I am not disputing that Travis Kelce is the engine of the KC machine or that an All Pro TE would not be Fields best friend.

I am saying that no defense has believed the Bears can beat them downfield since Justin Fields was still in grade school. Maybe Mooney can be that guy, but I am not seeing it and he is literally the only receiver under contract right now.

Travis Kelce can wait another year.

 

[CHIBEAR]

I hope he focuses on building the Bears and not the Chiefs 2.0 we just had a coach who was too locked into trying thats BS.

When Reid took over the Chiefs it was a defense heavy team with Jamal Charles at RB and Dwayne Bowe at wideout and went 11-5

2013 /Year one Smith , Charles and Bowe
2014/ Year two Smith ,Charles ,Kelce ,and Bowe
2015/ Year three Smith Charles, Kelce and Maclin
2016/ Year four Smith ,Charles ,Kelce ,Maclin, and Hill
2017/ Year five Smith , Charles ,Hunt ,Kelce, Hill
2018/ Year six Mahomes, Hill, Kelce ,Hunt , and Watkins

 

[DeerBrinker34]

Take the "fan" out of the analysis and just look at traits and situation.

Every lineman was playing in an offense that didn't know what they fuck they wanted to do on the offensive line. The fact that Nagy the fraud fired Harry Hiestand, one of the best O-line coaches in all of football, after one year is proof of it. So that's the situation. Now look at traits.

• Whitehair - regressed hard at a position he once was a Pro Bowl alternate in. Got pushed around a LOT. Contract is too cumbersome to cut him pre June 1st (post June 1st might make sense), so you likely are stuck with him another year. So get an heir-apparent ready behind him that will also push him to regain form and see if something is still there, or if he's just done. Also, some in the fandom have suggested moving him back to center, but you can't do that - not only did he have persistent snapping issues, but he was regularly blowing the line calls; an absolute no-no for the position.
• Mustipher - Gets line calls right, but gets absolutely bulldozed. Just not an NFL center.
• Daniels - He's out of contract, and also horribly inconsistent. Sometimes he looks great, and other times he's getting driven back into Fields' face. The issue with re-signing him is another team is likely going to be out of town stupid, and overpay for him based on the potential. He's not worth the risk unless he comes back on a team friendly deal, and even then, can't be counted on - he's basically another Whitehair with a potential for upside.
• Jenkins - had a rough start, but overall showed improvement with each start and showed a level of physicality none of the other linemen possess. I think he is ok at either LT or RT. RARELY gets put on his heels.
• Borom - had light feet and was successfully blocking and passing off defenders. Like Jenkins, RARELY gets put on his heels.

I think those are the linemen worth mentioning as the rest are just fodder really. Looking at that, you have your tackles. I wouldn't change a damn thing about Borom and Jenkins, except maybe flipping them, but you may also not need to.

The interior is a mess and needs major help. You need 3 more with Jenkins' physicality to be starting in the interior.

Takes "fan" out of analysis, still comes to same conclusion.

Whitehair - I don't think he's that good.

Mustipher- Had a horrible season. Needs replaced.

Daniels- Contract expires. May not even be retained.

Jenkins - Only thing he seemed to improve on was going from 3 penalties to 5 the following week. He's not a LT in my opinion and maybe not even a RT either.

Borom - Showed flashes, but was also embarrassed in pass protection quite often. No way do I just hand him a starting job in 2022.

The Bears O-line is in really bad shape.

 

[ThatGuyRyan]

Kmet is a few things, explosive athlete is obviously not one of them. Jesper is leaps and bounds better as a play maker. Nagy didn't like using him because he thought Jesper made his playcall look like an obvious pass play.

and Damien Williams didn't lol ? Nagy didn't play him because he was an idiot. You're giving him too much credit.

 

[EDPeezy]

The problem with “fixing” the o-line is that the team feels they sort of have. Or at least they’ve brought in the guys they think can be the future. So until that plays out they’re not going to address it. They didn’t use that pick on Jenkins to just quit on him. They clearly are going to give him time. Borom is going to get a chance. Whitehair isn’t going anywhere. Daniels may leave if somebody wants to pay him. the Bears probably give him a contract though. Center is the only spot they would address for a legit starter. Every new offensive lineman on the Bears will be a relatively cheap FA option or a late round pick. Unless Poles uses a big pick on a center. Which probably won’t happen.

I also think the o-line isn’t terrible. It’s just people dont pay attention to how all QB’s get pressured and have to deal with it. Some are good and some are bad. And they watch the Bears and see teams getting pressure and think it’s this crazy thing only Bears QB‘s deal with. But all you have to do is watch any game and pay attention and you can see it’s not something exclusive to the Bears. And this season turned into “throw everybody under the bus to distract from the fact that Fields has been bad” which hurt their perception amongst fans as well.

 

[ThatGuyRyan]

I am not disputing that Travis Kelce is the engine of the KC machine or that an All Pro TE would not be Fields best friend.

I am saying that no defense has believed the Bears can beat them downfield since Justin Fields was still in grade school. Maybe Mooney can be that guy, but I am not seeing it and he is literally the only receiver under contract right now.

Travis Kelce can wait another year.

If the Bears trade down and grab a 4th round pick or something and Jeremy Ruckert is there..

 

[westcoast bear fanatic]

I think trying to find Fields a TE who can be a reliable safety outlet is a smart move. Kmet is a decent number #2 TE who can block and get you some short yardage but finding a guy who makes defenses honor the middle of the field would open up lots of opportunities for the speedsters flanked out wide.

 

[Penny Traitor]

If the Bears trade down and grab a 4th round pick or something and Jeremy Ruckert is there..

I mean they pretty much have to draft a receiver now. Maybe two.

This team is going to age this poor young man so fast.

 

[Forty-six]

A huge part of Brady 's Patriots and KC's success has been due to having a weapon at the TE spot (in this case, Gronk and Kelce). I get finding players of this caliber isn't easy but let's hope Poles puts an emphasis finding a top tier TE.

 

[pseudonym]

We don't need an ELITE TE just a good TE. Kmet is average, even poor. He has a lot of potential if he would play more aggressively. He's a big guy, but plays soft. He should run OVER those DBs. And he doesn't. IDK what we have in him. I'm leaning towards bust, but if he can find confidence, if we scheme him open, maybe he can be good. He can't be a weakness, he needs to be an asset. Monty is great. ARob can be great again, Mooney is a fantastic WR2. The OL is where we need to focus, to give Fields more time.

 

[marioworld]

I'm not done with Kmet the way many are. For people to act like he can't be good just because of a few drops and because he didn't put up huge numbers in his 2nd year is crazy to me. I saw a lot of good from him. I saw some good catches and a hard guy to take down after the catch. I also want to see more from him but it was so obvious that Nagy and his staff held him back some.

My issue with Kmet is I think he needed confidence, just my opinion, e.g., he attends a tight end school, is very eager to be good. Seems like a good kid, has potential, needs coaching.

From the way Nagy reacted to seeing Fields be confident in the Steelers game makes me think he had no idea what that looks like. Nagy failed to instill confidence in his players. Only the ones that already had it really did anything last season.

Also, there was no real competition, everyone got a participation trophy... there was just a lot of idioms, next man up, take it one day at a time, growing every day, WE HAVE TO FIND THE WHY?!?! That kind of shit.

 

[marioworld]

Take the "fan" out of the analysis and just look at traits and situation.

Every lineman was playing in an offense that didn't know what they fuck they wanted to do on the offensive line. The fact that Nagy the fraud fired Harry Hiestand, one of the best O-line coaches in all of football, after one year is proof of it. So that's the situation. Now look at traits.

• Whitehair - regressed hard at a position he once was a Pro Bowl alternate in. Got pushed around a LOT. Contract is too cumbersome to cut him pre June 1st (post June 1st might make sense), so you likely are stuck with him another year. So get an heir-apparent ready behind him that will also push him to regain form and see if something is still there, or if he's just done. Also, some in the fandom have suggested moving him back to center, but you can't do that - not only did he have persistent snapping issues, but he was regularly blowing the line calls; an absolute no-no for the position.
• Mustipher - Gets line calls right, but gets absolutely bulldozed. Just not an NFL center.
• Daniels - He's out of contract, and also horribly inconsistent. Sometimes he looks great, and other times he's getting driven back into Fields' face. The issue with re-signing him is another team is likely going to be out of town stupid, and overpay for him based on the potential. He's not worth the risk unless he comes back on a team friendly deal, and even then, can't be counted on - he's basically another Whitehair with a potential for upside.
• Jenkins - had a rough start, but overall showed improvement with each start and showed a level of physicality none of the other linemen possess. I think he is ok at either LT or RT. RARELY gets put on his heels.
• Borom - had light feet and was successfully blocking and passing off defenders. Like Jenkins, RARELY gets put on his heels.

I think those are the linemen worth mentioning as the rest are just fodder really. Looking at that, you have your tackles. I wouldn't change a damn thing about Borom and Jenkins, except maybe flipping them, but you may also not need to.

The interior is a mess and needs major help. You need 3 more with Jenkins' physicality to be starting in the interior.

Kreutz was pretty high on Mustipher, would be cool of he could coach him to use his hands better. Whitehair and Daniels seemed lost... sucks that we are no better off than we were last offseason. Because of the coaching we learned nothing valuable from the team this year.

The realtor treated the team like a house, just waiting for the next family to occupy it (bad analogy). Good write up, btw.

 

[gallagher]

Fuck it. Every year we should hold open tryouts for forwards who couldn't make the leap to the NBA. Take two weeks to just throw as much as you can at them and invite the best to training camp.

Worst case scenario, you cut them like you do the fifty other guys who don't make the final roster. Best case scenario we find a guy who has some real "go up and get it" ability.

It's just as likely to find the next Kelce as drafting one from Notre Dame.

 

[Mighty Joe Young]

Takes "fan" out of analysis, still comes to same conclusion.

Whitehair - I don't think he's that good.

Mustipher- Had a horrible season. Needs replaced.

Daniels- Contract expires. May not even be retained.

Jenkins - Only thing he seemed to improve on was going from 3 penalties to 5 the following week. He's not a LT in my opinion and maybe not even a RT either.

Borom - Showed flashes, but was also embarrassed in pass protection quite often. No way do I just hand him a starting job in 2022.

The Bears O-line is in really bad shape.

Sorry, but you are totally meatballing on Jenkins and Borom. Both showed better than you said. Doesn't mean they don't have stuff to work on, but both showed traits.

 

[Mighty Joe Young]

Kreutz was pretty high on Mustipher, would be cool of he could coach him to use his hands better. Whitehair and Daniels seemed lost... sucks that we are no better off than we were last offseason. Because of the coaching we learned nothing valuable from the team this year.

The realtor treated the team like a house, just waiting for the next family to occupy it (bad analogy). Good write up, btw.

Kreutz being high on Mustipher is a perfect example of why we shouldn't take Kreutz's word seriously.