Casey Anthony Trial (merged)

[klemmer]

Nancy Grace is a victim of violence herself. Her fiance committed suicide after sobering up and realizing what he had done several years ago and the anger in that still comes across today. I do not watch her cause I believe she goes overboard. O'Reilly had her on the Factor and gave a statistic saying that in 2008 or 2009 Nancy had run like 280 shows on the Casey Anthony situation. Since there are only 365 days in the year, clearly she dedicated almost a year to that case. While flipping through channels I would see the banner every night on her show 'Breaking News' and it was just more speculation. But you have to remember what her background is and why she has this passion to put criminals away.

Corrected for accuracy.



She does it for ratings and a contract that is almost as fat as her head.



When is she going to let the little girl rest in peace?

 

[klemmer]

What are you trying to say about FLA?

While there are many nice people down there, there is a significant number of people who would like to show their brand of justice to her.

 

[supraman]

While there are many nice people down there, there is a significant number of people who would like to show their brand of justice to her.

I would like to show her a brand of justice and poke her with my stick.

 

[LordKOTL]

The evidence is what it is - the prosecutor cannot invent something just to satisfy what you want to see as the jury. Circumstantial evidence is admissable and does not mean 'reasonable doubt' by nature. Otherwise, why go through the trial and why would the prosecution have brought charges? Think about it.

It's admissible, but it's not proof beyond a reasonable doubt. Circumstantial evidence is supporting evidence, it makes the case stronger but should never be the foundation of the case.



And yes, people have been found guilty off of circumstantial evidence alone, some have even been truly guilty, but any innocent person incarcerated because of circumstantial evidence is too many and is a gross failure of the system.

 

[TSD]

Nancy Grace is a victim of violence herself. Her fiance was murdered years ago and the anger in that still comes across today. I do not watch her cause I believe she goes overboard. O'Reilly had her on the Factor and gave a statistic saying that in 2008 or 2009 Nancy had run like 280 shows on the Casey Anthony situation. Since there are only 365 days in the year, clearly she dedicated almost a year to that case. While flipping through channels I would see the banner every night on her show 'Breaking News' and it was just more speculation. But you have to remember what her background is and why she has this passion to put criminals away.

and a passion to let emotion rule her sense of reason, Duke Lacrosse case for example. Apparently she has a passion to put away the defendant, guilty or innocent.

 

[R K]

LOL! I called it with Nancy Grace.. Just remember that!



Shame her Fiancee didn't take her out on the way.

 

[R K]

and a passion to let emotion rule her sense of reason, Duke Lacrosse case for example. Apparently she has a passion to put away the defendant, guilty or innocent.

She's a dumb ****. Period.

 

[bubbleheadchief]

But you can NEVER prevent that from happening so don't worry about it. It has happened and will happen again as there is no fool-proof system. So saying you prefer guilty people go free than putting innocent people in prisonis terrible. That would be anarchy with no laws and people doing whatever they want at will. You say she is guilty as sin - so why not convict her? Trust your gut - you know she did it just as I do. This is called common sense.



And no I won't say she will burn in hell cause we have discussed religion on this board before and it was clear I was the only one who believes in god amongst all the atheists here.

For some one who sits there and claims to watch all the various news outlets to ensure he gets a good input of onformaion prior to making his "educated" decisions, you are deaf as a doornail or simply blind.

I have put in bold your statement and paraphrased it a tad, THE GUILTY GO FREE VICE AN INNOCENT BE CONVICTED. Becasue if you were "educated" as you claim, you would relaize that this is exactly what our justice system IS based on. That is why you have such famous quotes as innocent until proven guilty. That is why the burden of proof is on the prosecution.



Simply put, they did not PROVE murder.

 

[bubbleheadchief]

While there are many nice people down there, there is a significant number of people who would like to show their brand of justice to her.

That is nationwide Klem, and to single it out to just the state of FL, is to me offesive. Sorry, I am just tired of people seeming to think that the vast majority of Floridians are stupid inbred rednecks, which is far from the case.

 

[BiscuitintheBasket]

Of course there will be. She'll be a millionaire after this. But...the pressure will come when she's out in public. That will be her own little prison much like people would show up where OJ went and yell 'murderer'. The grandparents will get it as well.

Not just for her. I was quoting your post since it included the jury getting deals.

 

[BiscuitintheBasket]

Ultimately the justice system is what it is. It will include jury members that may not be the sharpest, (perhaps that is even more than wanted by both sides), and it will include basic instructions on how and on what they can come to some conclusion from (which will be from the judge).



Are there flaws in that, sure, but would one prefer that the gov't just persecute at will? That public outcry overrule? That emotions be the deciding factor? That someone is guilty before even taking the stand (something about an American girl in Italy comes to mind).



It is what it is, and quite frankly I am fine with the flaws as they are truly the lesser of the two evils.

 

[BigPete]

Go find the thread Klem if you don't believe me. There are many in that thread who said they were atheists and didn't believe in god. I was the only one in that thread who did believe. Maybe you didn't participate that day and you believe in god as well - I don't know and I don't care.

So you reverently believe in things that can't be proven to actually exist...that explains a lot!

 

[Kerfuffle]

Ultimately the justice system is what it is. It will include jury members that may not be the sharpest, (perhaps that is even more than wanted by both sides), and it will include basic instructions on how and on what they can come to some conclusion from (which will be from the judge).



Are there flaws in that, sure, but would one prefer that the gov't just persecute at will? That public outcry overrule? That emotions be the deciding factor? That someone is guilty before even taking the stand (something about an American girl in Italy comes to mind).



It is what it is, and quite frankly I am fine with the flaws as they are truly the lesser of the two evils.

Agreed on jury members not always being the sharpest - the guy on MSNBC today was a dope. I disagree however on Amanda Knox - I believe she was guilty as well - they found her fingerprints all over the knife. That was a just verdict IMO.

 

[klemmer]

That is nationwide Klem, and to single it out to just the state of FL, is to me offesive. Sorry, I am just tired of people seeming to think that the vast majority of Floridians are stupid inbred rednecks, which is far from the case.

Point taken.



I singled out FL because that is where she'll probably be living for the time being.



That said, the stupidity that abounds knows no borders.

 

[R K]

So you reverently believe in things that can't be proven to actually exist...that explains a lot!

Dude it's the world agains Fluff. He's right and EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG. No matter what the discussion. **** him.

 

[BigPete]

Agreed on jury members not always being the sharpest - the guy on MSNBC today was a dope. I disagree however on Amanda Knox - I believe she was guilty as well - they found her fingerprints all over the knife. That was a just verdict IMO.

That is for a whole other thread altogether, pal. But for the record, SHE LIVED IN THE SAME HOUSE - OF COURSE HER FINGERPRINTS WERE ON THE KNIFE!!!!!



Knox didn't do anything but get swept into a trial and conviction by a lieing, murdering, druggie, drifter, degenerate illegal alien. The court system in Italy is a lot different than the one in the US and the prosecuter of that case is already being recommended for charges for what he did to Knox and Sollecito.

 

[TSD]

For some one who sits there and claims to watch all the various news outlets to ensure he gets a good input of onformaion prior to making his "educated" decisions, you are deaf as a doornail or simply blind.

I have put in bold your statement and paraphrased it a tad, THE GUILTY GO FREE VICE AN INNOCENT BE CONVICTED. Becasue if you were "educated" as you claim, you would relaize that this is exactly what our justice system IS based on. That is why you have such famous quotes as innocent until proven guilty. That is why the burden of proof is on the prosecution.



Simply put, they did not PROVE murder.

nail right on the head. They didn't even prove a murder occurred let alone who did it. Heres where fluff would say "common sense this" "gut feeling that" or "obviously this" obviously nothing, its assumption, no matter how likely that assumption is, it is just that.



maybe in this case that assumption is right, but Id rather not assume at all in the case of those poor saps where we assume wrong.

 

[BigPete]

Dude it's the world agains Fluff. He's right and EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG. No matter what the discussion. **** him.

Atheist, believer, or fence rider...I made a pretty damn good funny.

 

[R K]

Atheist, believer, or fence rider...I made a pretty damn good funny.

I give up. He's "schooling" me in the Campoli thread. He has no clue who I know or what access I have to things. None. Some of you do, YOU being one of them.



Again it's the World against the ticket scalper. Oh boy.

 

[BigPete]

I give up. He's "schooling" me in the Campoli thread. He has no clue who I know or what access I have to things. None. Some of you do, YOU being one of them.



Again it's the World against the ticket scalper. Oh boy.

I don't know what you are talking aboot.













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