CBE 113: TMac, Rudy, House or Mason Jr.

[houheffna]

You are 500 miles away? Its not worth it!

 

[evilhoban]

Yup...I live in Duluth, MN. I have to drive 3 hours just to see the Bulls play the Timber-puffs in Minneapolis....

 

[Diddy1122]

Name calling over the internet is so ***. Who can flex the biggest computer muscles while watching new episodes of Futurama? We're all waiting on bated breath.

 

[pinkizdead]

oh yeah, well i can watch more futurama than you! also, you're lame! so there.

( i hope my sarcasm/satire was obvious)

 

[TheStig]

Mason is off the market to NY.

 

[mlewinth]

Diddy1122 wrote:

Name calling over the internet is so ***. Who can flex the biggest computer muscles while watching new episodes of Futurama? We're all waiting on bated breath.

I gotta say, Diddy1122 is a great guy. A man I admire. He is also a broker of peace. In the sprit of peace, I would like EvilHobon and EVMP to watch the following clip and quit their petty bickering. And EVMP, if your using steriods, which I heavily suspect you are, I would stop, as its not good for your heart.

[video type=youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Qz74cEN5aw[/video]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Qz74cEN5aw

 

[emvp1970]

mlewinth wrote:

evilhoban wrote:

1# You are wrong, sir. He did not shoot the ball well. I cringed every single time he was left wide open. Do you remember when he missed that wide open lay-up against Boston? UGH! Ronnie Brewer is a better defender than Hinrich as he can "lock down" and Kirk couldn't. As Fred said, Kirk is "fiesty"....but that's about it. I doubt losing Kirk is the reason we won't win the title this year, but thanks for playing!

2# I think LeBron and Bosh did consider Chicago more than Wade ever did. Yeah...you wouldn't consider having Noah, Rose, Gibson and Deng instead of Wade and whatever you can find on the NBA washed-up player scrap heap? I think the three of them have talked about it for years, but nothing was finalized. All three of the guys have their own egos and Wade got a bit nervous due to LeBron meeting the Bulls last in Ohio and him the talk of him coming here being all over ESPN. AND the Bulls did NOT bring Wade in twice. I believe he contacted the Bulls for the first meeting and went back on his own the second time as well.

Now this is the specific point I'm tired of arguing with everyone about because it seems that no matter how simple I break it down for some, you're just either too simple or too ignorant to mentally grasp the concept. He didn't just attack the Chicago Bull's loyalty....he did so by COMPARING IT TO THE ****ING HEAT's! That is what upset me. Do you get that now? Fred, and now you, are sitting there dry humping ancient Bulls history (wahhhhhh! Jordan! wahhhhhh! Jackson!) instead of wondering what the reason behind Wade's statements were in the first place. He didn't just say the Bulls were disloyal....he said they were disloyal compared to the Heat. The freaking stadium was half-full and they employ one or two ex-players....but apparently they are the shinning example of loyalty in the NBA in Wade's eyes. What's more stupid? "Crying" about what Wade said or buying it hook, line and sinker? (*cough*, *cough*, YOU!,*cough*...) Doug meant that Wade was so clearly speaking out of his ass that we should just ignore him, not dignify his comments with a response.......and certainly not AGREE with him.

...by the way, put down the comics? No, sir I will not. I make comics and consider them an art form. What do you produce...besides shit and CO2? Right...personal trainer. Dumbells and HGH....got it. Man, man, manly, man....

3# Yes. Larry Hughes on crack. A guy who will chuck bad shots because he thinks he's entitled. Remember Larry doing that? Now imagine that times ten....hence "Larry Hughes on crack". This guy, McGrady, used to be a star and now he can barely move a fraction of the same way he used to, yet has the same mentality as an all-star. Get it.....or do I need to break out the crayons and draw you a picture?

4# Not dating Lou....but it's funny when simple minded people can't think of any good intelligent responses we get into the homophobic comments. Is that all you're mongoloid mind has to offer? The Lou thing was a joke...but if you rally want to size me up, you're off by about 40 pounds. Better yet, if you want to size me up, here's my Facebook page:

http://www.facebook.com/evilhoban

I don't care how big you are, how hard you train, how many 'roids you shoot into your ass.... You don't scare me.


Actually, I'm betting WE should have our own podcast show. I could take your arguments down every episode and you can chase me around out of frustration with your manly cave-man club. WHADUYASAY?!!!!

My thoughts

#1) Agree with evilhoban. Kirk was the most inconcistant high profile Bull ever. I feel his fg% (which sux) doesnt really represent him well either cause he didnt shoot 40.9% in most games. He shot either 60%, or 5% every night. Lets do some analysis. Hinrichs total fg% last year, 40.9%. Hinrich played in 74 games last year. # of games Hinrich shot under 35% ???= 27!! Thats 1/3rd of the season. His defense was fine for a dude whose 6'4. Brewer is better at D and is more consistent offensivly.

#2) Who cares? I measn seriously...who cares. You can ***** and argue about this, but you will never know Wades intentions.

#3) Very rude response by evilhobon. I think your comparison is a bit ridiculous. McGrady was a consistant all-star. Referring to him as Larry Hughes on crack is giving Larry Hughes WAAAAAY to much credit. McGrady is a much better player, passer, scorer...no comparison. Try picking another washed up all-star to compare him too... (Vince!?!?! noo.... Marbury...hmmmm....naaah McGrady was better....why not just don't compare him at all)


#4) I gotta say Emvp...you just got served. There was no reason to ask Evilhobon how much he weighs, or to make lobrow homosexual jokes. Everyone is entitiled to their own opinion, no matter who stupid it is. Asking hobon how much he weighs and inviting him to the gym to chat!?!?!......is this the steam room? is this chatting by the bench? on the track? Please clarify, as personally it sounded to me as if your asking him for a date? WHICH IS FINE! I DON'T JUDGE!!!

You guys gotta stop bitching with eachother like 5th graders...argue on Skype! Thats how real men get it done! Are you gonna do the show with us EMVP? Its gonna be a steel cage death match!

No reason

Enough writing. I want to come on and argue my points, but Fred hasn't answered my email in almost a week...WTF dude. What is your email mark? I don't have a ton of time, since my job does mean odd hours, so I am up for calling in. The only reason i invited Evil to the gym is because I have found that the ones who talk the biggest can't often back it up. Like Fred saying he's a better shooter than Kirk, when he probably shoots underhand.

 

[mlewinth]

emvp1970 wrote:

mlewinth wrote:

evilhoban wrote:

1# You are wrong, sir. He did not shoot the ball well. I cringed every single time he was left wide open. Do you remember when he missed that wide open lay-up against Boston? UGH! Ronnie Brewer is a better defender than Hinrich as he can "lock down" and Kirk couldn't. As Fred said, Kirk is "fiesty"....but that's about it. I doubt losing Kirk is the reason we won't win the title this year, but thanks for playing!

2# I think LeBron and Bosh did consider Chicago more than Wade ever did. Yeah...you wouldn't consider having Noah, Rose, Gibson and Deng instead of Wade and whatever you can find on the NBA washed-up player scrap heap? I think the three of them have talked about it for years, but nothing was finalized. All three of the guys have their own egos and Wade got a bit nervous due to LeBron meeting the Bulls last in Ohio and him the talk of him coming here being all over ESPN. AND the Bulls did NOT bring Wade in twice. I believe he contacted the Bulls for the first meeting and went back on his own the second time as well.

Now this is the specific point I'm tired of arguing with everyone about because it seems that no matter how simple I break it down for some, you're just either too simple or too ignorant to mentally grasp the concept. He didn't just attack the Chicago Bull's loyalty....he did so by COMPARING IT TO THE ****ING HEAT's! That is what upset me. Do you get that now? Fred, and now you, are sitting there dry humping ancient Bulls history (wahhhhhh! Jordan! wahhhhhh! Jackson!) instead of wondering what the reason behind Wade's statements were in the first place. He didn't just say the Bulls were disloyal....he said they were disloyal compared to the Heat. The freaking stadium was half-full and they employ one or two ex-players....but apparently they are the shinning example of loyalty in the NBA in Wade's eyes. What's more stupid? "Crying" about what Wade said or buying it hook, line and sinker? (*cough*, *cough*, YOU!,*cough*...) Doug meant that Wade was so clearly speaking out of his ass that we should just ignore him, not dignify his comments with a response.......and certainly not AGREE with him.

...by the way, put down the comics? No, sir I will not. I make comics and consider them an art form. What do you produce...besides shit and CO2? Right...personal trainer. Dumbells and HGH....got it. Man, man, manly, man....

3# Yes. Larry Hughes on crack. A guy who will chuck bad shots because he thinks he's entitled. Remember Larry doing that? Now imagine that times ten....hence "Larry Hughes on crack". This guy, McGrady, used to be a star and now he can barely move a fraction of the same way he used to, yet has the same mentality as an all-star. Get it.....or do I need to break out the crayons and draw you a picture?

4# Not dating Lou....but it's funny when simple minded people can't think of any good intelligent responses we get into the homophobic comments. Is that all you're mongoloid mind has to offer? The Lou thing was a joke...but if you rally want to size me up, you're off by about 40 pounds. Better yet, if you want to size me up, here's my Facebook page:

http://www.facebook.com/evilhoban

I don't care how big you are, how hard you train, how many 'roids you shoot into your ass.... You don't scare me.


Actually, I'm betting WE should have our own podcast show. I could take your arguments down every episode and you can chase me around out of frustration with your manly cave-man club. WHADUYASAY?!!!!

My thoughts

#1) Agree with evilhoban. Kirk was the most inconcistant high profile Bull ever. I feel his fg% (which sux) doesnt really represent him well either cause he didnt shoot 40.9% in most games. He shot either 60%, or 5% every night. Lets do some analysis. Hinrichs total fg% last year, 40.9%. Hinrich played in 74 games last year. # of games Hinrich shot under 35% ???= 27!! Thats 1/3rd of the season. His defense was fine for a dude whose 6'4. Brewer is better at D and is more consistent offensivly.

#2) Who cares? I measn seriously...who cares. You can ***** and argue about this, but you will never know Wades intentions.

#3) Very rude response by evilhobon. I think your comparison is a bit ridiculous. McGrady was a consistant all-star. Referring to him as Larry Hughes on crack is giving Larry Hughes WAAAAAY to much credit. McGrady is a much better player, passer, scorer...no comparison. Try picking another washed up all-star to compare him too... (Vince!?!?! noo.... Marbury...hmmmm....naaah McGrady was better....why not just don't compare him at all)


#4) I gotta say Emvp...you just got served. There was no reason to ask Evilhobon how much he weighs, or to make lobrow homosexual jokes. Everyone is entitiled to their own opinion, no matter who stupid it is. Asking hobon how much he weighs and inviting him to the gym to chat!?!?!......is this the steam room? is this chatting by the bench? on the track? Please clarify, as personally it sounded to me as if your asking him for a date? WHICH IS FINE! I DON'T JUDGE!!!

You guys gotta stop bitching with eachother like 5th graders...argue on Skype! Thats how real men get it done! Are you gonna do the show with us EMVP? Its gonna be a steel cage death match!

No reason

Enough writing. I want to come on and argue my points, but Fred hasn't answered my email in almost a week...WTF dude. What is your email mark? I don't have a ton of time, since my job does mean odd hours, so I am up for calling in. The only reason i invited Evil to the gym is because I have found that the ones who talk the biggest can't often back it up. Like Fred saying he's a better shooter than Kirk, when he probably shoots underhand.

Fred has been on vacation. We will contact you when he gets back and were ready to do a show.

 

[Diddy1122]

pinkizdead wrote:

oh yeah, well i can watch more futurama than you! also, you're lame! so there.

I can type over 100wpm while taking breaks to eat a giant bag of Cheetos, so SUCK IT pinkizgay!

 

[TheStig]

back to the real point of the thread. Its Bogans.

 

[houheffna]

Yeah, it might be Bogans. Fernandez doesn't work for me because I don't think he will be happy with the PT he gets here either. Plus from what I hear, Bogans is pretty decent defensively...we will see what happens...

 

[TheStig]

I don't know about that, Rudy had a 50/50 chance of starting imo. He is a bit of an unknown but Ronnie Brewer isn't exactly all nba either.

 

[houheffna]

Nobody said Brewer was all-nba. Fortunately, the Bulls recognized that they needed size and athleticism in the backcourt. Finally after all of these years, the Bulls got it. Fernandez is not that guy. Brewer is. And Brewer is superior defensively. Fernandez would come off the bench in this situation...imo.

 

[pinkizdead]

he would come off the bench this year. if he could get back to form, i think i like him better korver. He had to share the perimeter with webster, so that might have something to with it.

Frankly, i think the shot at kirk and bg was ill deserved. Brewer might be a great defender, but i'm still pessimistic about his abilities on the offensive end. The idea of brewer and deng doesn't thrill me far beyond kirk and deng being our starters.

 

[TheStig]

No one is saying Brewer isn't need, I am happy we got him for what we paid. I also think that Rudy can do a lot offensively for this team and would have a bigger role than just back up sg.

 

[houheffna]

Frankly, i think the shot at kirk and bg was ill deserved. Brewer might be a great defender, but i'm still pessimistic about his abilities on the offensive end. The idea of brewer and deng doesn't thrill me far beyond kirk and deng being our starters.

But it does thrill you from your statements. And its cheaper. I think Kirk and BG deserved the shot...because the are smaller and not as athletic as Brewer. That is a fact. Brewer will make 4mil? Compared to Gordon at 11 and Hinrich at 9? I'll take Brewer...thanks.

 

[TheStig]

pinkizdead wrote:

Frankly, i think the shot at kirk and bg was ill deserved. Brewer might be a great defender, but i'm still pessimistic about his abilities on the offensive end. The idea of brewer and deng doesn't thrill me far beyond kirk and deng being our starters.

I like BG and would take him over the other guys but I think you are discounting what we have here. Brewer and Deng are very good perimeter defenders, play well off the ball and run the break. This team is gonna be good defensively, athletically, run the floor and kill teams on the boards. Outside of Brewer, everyone else is an above average rebounder. We will be a tough team to beat in the playoffs provided that everyone is healthy.

 

[pinkizdead]

Defense wasn't the problem last year. Teams are still going to collapse in on the paint. double rose and boozer, and deng's contract is going to look worse. Honestly i dont like ben's contract all that much, so i wouldnt want him, but man do we need some scoring on the wings besides rose. Korver is a good shooter, but he's going to kill us on defense. We all gave gordon crap for being a terrible defender, but he really wasn't that bad. I've never seen brewer play, but hopefully he's as good as everyone makes him out to be.

 

[houheffna]

Gordon really was bad. Norm Van Lier lamented continuously about how Rose and Gordon's defense would haunt the Bulls. The Bulls have to improve but they are not going to do it this year. Deng can score...he scored almost 18 a game last season. I am hoping that he will take a few more threes and remain as efficient. Having Korver there will push Deng to get better.

As stated, Deng is a decent defender and Brewer is good. You are worried about scoring when the Bulls just got a guy who scores 20ppg over the last 4 years. I don't worry about scoring, but long range shooting. Korver, Watson, Bogans...that is some long range shooting for you. We have to see what they can do...

 

[pinkizdead]

he's going to suck against the lakers, magic, and celtics. we need some1 when boozer has a bad game.the guy has trouble with players with length.

I'm sorry i dont trust luol deng. If we had a starting lineup of granger brewer and rose in the backcourt, i'd be excited. Hopefully Deng's offensive woes will be cured with an actualy coach.