Chicago Bulls calling about Demarcus Cousins?

[Axl Rose]

He also didn't get along well with Mike Malone, who didn't take long to get a new job.

this is not true....he actually liked Mike Malone and was upset with Sac for firing him for no good reason

It's no secret that DeMarcus Cousins was upset that the Sacramento Kings fired Michael Malone back in December. The center called the season a "complete circus," and never said a negative word about Malone before or after the coaching change. After the Denver Nuggets made Malone their new head coach, Cousins again voiced his support.

"I was extremely happy," he said, via the Sacramento Bee's Jason Jones. "I think he's one of the better coaches in the league. He's a great man.

"I learned a lot from him, and I'm just happy he's getting an opportunity to do what he loves," Cousins continued. "Like I said, you can't keep a good man down."

The two of them seemed to be taking the Kings in the right direction before the shocking firing early in the season, then everything seemed to fall apart for the franchise. Now in Denver, Malone will get a chance to build the culture he wants. In Sacramento, Cousins needs to try to get on the same page as head coach George Karl. Both are hoping next year will be nothing like this past one.

its understandable that he doesn't like Karl because Karl doesn't like him and tired to get him traded

 

[Enasic]

Karl is notorious for having problems with players.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Karl is notorious for having problems with players.

Carmelo Anthony, Iverson, and Demarcus Cousins? Yes. And those guys aren't exactly great leaders either.

 

[Enasic]

Carmelo Anthony, Iverson, and Demarcus Cousins? Yes. And those guys aren't exactly great leaders either.

It was more than just those 3. Either way, the original point made was that Fred would be better equipped to handle Demarcus than Karl, which is true.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

It appears I have provided wrong information.

 

[ChettheJet]

One guy hears rumblings and writes abut it, 20 other people just put it out without doing any checking to see if it's accurate.

Image being so important to the Bulls, like they said when they signed Gasol, how they promote Noah I doubt they look for a guy who is potential problem. Also super talent who gets traded might think he can run over a rookie coach and the Bulls don't want that guy.

 

[czman]

Lol, that's a pretty terrible guess.

To start, Fred or "Hoiball" is more about offense than it is defense. Fred wants to get out and run, which Boogie can do (certainly better than Pau lol), space the floor for a C, and can score in a variety of ways. Is he a great defender? No. At least he's not soft though.

You do not watch the Kings. Your comments reek of ignorance.

 

[Enasic]

You do not watch the Kings. Your comments reek of ignorance.

Enlighten me, what did I say that reeks of ignorance?

 

[The Hawk]

It was more than just those 3. Either way, the original point made was that Fred would be better equipped to handle Demarcus than Karl, which is true.

A rookie head coach is more equipped to deal with an asshole like Cousins? How do you know that?

 

[Enasic]

A rookie head coach is more equipped to deal with an asshole like Cousins? How do you know that?

I don't "know" it but I explained my reasoning. Fred's more of a players coach and has a better personality and temperament to deal with him. IMO of course.

 

[The Hawk]

I don't "know" it but I explained my reasoning. Fred's more of a players coach and has a better personality and temperament to deal with him. IMO of course.

I think being a so-called "players coach" is really over-rated and ill defined. What does a player's coach do anyway? you hear coaches being called that quite a bit but what is it and what is to differentiate those guys from the pack? Who in your mind in this league is a successful player's coach?

I think that in the history of the league, the most successful coaches were pretty much guy's and gals who worked their teams very hard and demanded a lot from them. So guys like Auerbach, Sloan, Karl, Jackson, and Popovich demanded results and also had a huge say-so in the make-up of their teams. Each of these coaches were different cats and had different styles but I can't say that they were buddy buddy with their players if that is at least part of the definition.

 

[Enasic]

Fred flew around the world to meet everyone on the roster and form a relationship with them. He's a communicator. Those type of things bring the label as players coach. Player coaches in the league right now? Kerr and rivers come to mind off the top of my head.

Funny how this conversation spiraled here. My original point was that being a rookie coach doesn't mean Fred can't handle cousins just as being a veteran coach doesn't mean anything either. My whole point is it's more about personality and temperament rather than nba coaching experience.

 

[Benchmob757]

I wonder how much cousins' attitude would change once he starts actually winning basketball games


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[Enasic]

I wonder how much cousins' attitude would change once he starts actually winning basketball games


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Surely couldn't hurt.

 

[Axl Rose]

not really worried about character issues. push the chips in on a 25 year old center and pair him up with 26 year old SG then get some shooters around them and see what happens...if its a flop so be it but its better situation then we have

(still playing better defense than Pau)

 

[czman]

Enlighten me, what did I say that reeks of ignorance?

I don't think you typed one thing that was correct.

He is not a good shooter. Under 40% for jumps on his career this season and last season.

He does not run the floor.

He is not going to make the Bulls better. He is not a good fit for this offense. He is not going to listen to the great communicator. The current Bulls team isn't even running his offense, and they are all players who one would think would listen.

You also proposed a trade that breaks all of the CBA rules. I don't think you have gotten one thing correct.

 

[Enasic]

I don't think you typed one thing that was correct.

He is not a good shooter. Under 40% for jumps on his career this season and last season.

He does not run the floor.

He is not going to make the Bulls better. He is not a good fit for this offense. He is not going to listen to the great communicator. The current Bulls team isn't even running his offense, and they are all players who one would think would listen.

You also proposed a trade that breaks all of the CBA rules. I don't think you have gotten one thing correct.

Cousins has range. I wouldn't want him taking 4 3 point shots per game like he is now, but for a center, he's an above average floor spacer. Notice I never said he shot a great percentage. He is efficient though. He scores 25 PPG on 19 shots per game. He can run the floor. Is he a gazelle or a prime Noah? No. But he's more than capable. He will make the Bulls better.

What trade did I propose that breaks all CBA rules?

Taj and Rose for Joe Johnson and Jarrett Jack work in trade machine.

Pau, Niko, Doug + picks also works

Not sure what you're talking about.

 

[houheffna]

Ugh. Count me out. You expect a rookie coach like Freddie to be able to deal with that guy's horseshit?

Aren't you the guy that wanted Rondo last year? Big fan of Rodman's ain't you? Change of scenery can be good for some players. Demarcus Cousins is one of the best in the league, a premier big man. Like QB in the NFL, rare to have one of those. Now, two of them just came in the league in the draft this year, pretty good....but there is a bit of a drought when it comes to franchise big men.

For those who speak of Hoiberg's offense being a hindrance, the Kings are first in the league in pace and third in scoring. He gives you 25ppg and 11 rebs. I don't see what the problem is on that front.

 

[RoseMVP1]

Cousins likes to win...I don't think he's as much of a head case as people think. I think he just hates to lose.

 

[knoxville7]

It was more than just those 3. Either way, the original point made was that Fred would be better equipped to handle Demarcus than Karl, which is true.

until fred actually coaches boogie I don't see how on earth you can make a statement like that. in reality we all have no clue how fred would handle boogie. you seem to think that because fred is "laid back" that means itll be better, but there is no actual facts to base that off of. couldn't his laid back nature enable boogies continued issues? exactly, we don't know because the two of them have never worked together! so ill base my judgment off of how boogie has acted throughout his career to this point, which is pretty shitty