Chicago rumored as idea city of NFL expansion

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bears hired the same architects that designed Allegiant Stadium. It was completed in 3 years. Retractable roof and duo field types. This is the standard these guys are capable of.

WOW!
Allegiant Stadium does not have a "retractable roof." It has a translucent roof, meaning allows light in.

Good luck with your domed stadium Chicago. Getting more pathetic just like the Vikings and Lions every day.

George Halas is rolling over in his grave.
 

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I guess international expansion isn't going so well.:rolleyes:
 

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hopefully you won't be crippled due to old age and are able to witness this event live when the new gig opens up in 2026.

bears hired the same architects that designed Allegiant Stadium. It was completed in 3 years. Retractable roof and duo field types. This is the standard these guys are capable of.

WOW!
Completed in 3 years? Heck I have seen plenty of highways that have been under construction for longer than that (I'm looking at you I-35 through Waco, TX).
 
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what do you think of the Bears getting a new little brother on the Arlington Heights campus?
So ... it is your belief that the Bears, basically owners of the Arlington Heights site, is going to build a stadium for an expansion team so that there is competition for future fans in Chicago?

Imagine an expansion team with a state-of-the-art stadium competing with the Bears in their The-Love-Boat (not space ship) tiny stadium. Seeing how many current fans are fickle, many of them will just become fans of The Bezo Bozos because of the better stadium experience. After all, the difference between a last place team and a bottom 10 team is not that much. Most young people do not care about team history.
 

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Sorry, I didn’t read the article. You may have addressed this. How many teams would the NFL have to bring in at a minimum? 8 if they just wanted to add 2 new divisions or more than likely just a new team per division? Otherwise say goodbye to the existing divisions.

I’m not sure they’re capable of making that leap without grossly tainting the talent pool and quality of the existing product (for a few years minimum). That’s a big financial gamble in my opinion.
The NFL does not mind slowly adding teams, two at a time, so the impact would not be as great as adding 8 teams at once. Yes, there will be two divisions with one extra team. It has happened before.
 

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So ... it is your belief that the Bears, basically owners of the Arlington Heights site, is going to build a stadium for an expansion team so that there is competition for future fans in Chicago?

Imagine an expansion team with a state-of-the-art stadium competing with the Bears in their The-Love-Boat (not space ship) tiny stadium. Seeing how many current fans are fickle, many of them will just become fans of The Bezo Bozos because of the better stadium experience. After all, the difference between a last place team and a bottom 10 team is not that much. Most young people do not care about team history.
So ... it is your belief that the Bears, basically owners of the Arlington Heights site, is going to build a stadium for an expansion team so that there is competition for future fans in Chicago?

Imagine an expansion team with a state-of-the-art stadium competing with the Bears in their The-Love-Boat (not space ship) tiny stadium. Seeing how many current fans are fickle, many of them will just become fans of The Bezo Bozos because of the better stadium experience. After all, the difference between a last place team and a bottom 10 team is not that much. Most young people do not care about team history.
It’s my belief that the Bears owners are that cheap that they’d defer costs of the building project if they could.
 

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It’s my belief that the Bears owners are that cheap that they’d defer costs of the building project if they could.
The way you said it made it seem that you expected the Bears would stay in Soldier Field and would build a stadium for an expansion team in Arlington Heights.

Someone needs to tell the McCaskeys that building a state-of-the art stadium probably instantly doubles the value of the stadium. So building a new stadium is not being cheap. It is being intelligent.
 

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Which next generation is this?


IIRC you're probably not much older than me even though you look a LOT older than me (and larger, etc) hell you might even be younger than me, so are you referring to millenials or zoomers or a generation after that???
The Founding Fathers generation, that being the generation that never lived with any rights that the founding fathers didn't also enjoy, beyond being allowed to have weapons of mass destruction.
 

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I'll support any and all pro-football teams in Chicago. Id love to see the cross-town meatballs meltdown over every loss to the other team.
That would be fun, but chances are that those games would happen infrequently because of them being in different leagues conferences.
 

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The way you said it made it seem that you expected the Bears would stay in Soldier Field and would build a stadium for an expansion team in Arlington Heights.

Someone needs to tell the McCaskeys that building a state-of-the art stadium probably instantly doubles the value of the stadium. So building a new stadium is not being cheap. It is being intelligent.
I don’t disagree with you. But the owners would have to be intelligent.
Also, a lot of owners like deferring costs of building to the city. The city gets tax revenue, the team gets a building for cheap.
 

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I don’t disagree with you. But the owners would have to be intelligent.
Also, a lot of owners like deferring costs of building to the city. The city gets tax revenue, the team gets a building for cheap.
Yes, but Arlington Heights is much smaller than Chicago. It could not afford dumping so much tax money on the citizens of the city.

Yes, the McCaskeys will try to get as much money as possible from the NFL, Arlington Heights, advertisers and fans to lower the cost of the new stadium for the McCaskeys.

There are so many fans on the waiting list for tickets that the new stadium would be sold out immediately from season ticket holders and people on the waiting list.

Imagine the Bears adding 40% more seats which means 40% more revenue from tickets, 40% more from merchandize sales, 40% from concession sales, 40% more from parking spot sales and 40% more from PSL sales.

Don't forget that some of those items are 100% going to the city while in Soldier Field, which would then be 100% increases to the McCaskey pocket book.
 

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Completed in 3 years? Heck I have seen plenty of highways that have been under construction for longer than that (I'm looking at you I-35 through Waco, TX).
Are they too busy building a wall to work on a highway? Green text
 

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If it were an AFC team, and it most likely would be, it would be pretty easy to support both. I guess once every 4 years or so you'd have to pick a side. And then in the Superbowl if that ever happened in the next 1,000 years.
Not buying it. How many fans support both the Cubs and White Sox? Virtually none. Think the same would happen with football. I can positively say no one supported both the Raiders and Niners.
 

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Not buying it. How many fans support both the Cubs and White Sox? Virtually none. Think the same would happen with football. I can positively say no one supported both the Raiders and Niners.
I guess that's fair...but the whole Cubs / Sox thing has a whole generational and historic thing to it. I'm not sure if that would be the outcome for a brand new franchise. On the flip side, I could definitely see a lot of Chicagoans never supporting another franchise though. Probably only the people who call the Sears Tower, Willis Tower.
 

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They can hardly do ONE team right, what makes the NFL think they can handle two? JFC.
 

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already too many teams

If anything, I'd like to take some away.

just image how much better the league would be with less teams and more concentrated talent
 

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Not buying it. How many fans support both the Cubs and White Sox? Virtually none. Think the same would happen with football. I can positively say no one supported both the Raiders and Niners.
I guess that I am one of the few.

To me, the Cubs were my TV team and the Sox were my stadium team because of logistics growing up.

The Raider / 49er argument is difficult because, I may be wrong, but I think that Oakland fans were not SF fans and vice versa. Now I am not talking about the teams, but rather, I am talking about the cities. People who lived in SF looked down on people who lived in Oakland and people in Oakland thought that people from SF were uppity bastards. So there was already a prejudice already built in for hating the football team from the other city.
 

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I guess that's fair...but the whole Cubs / Sox thing has a whole generational and historic thing to it. I'm not sure if that would be the outcome for a brand new franchise. On the flip side, I could definitely see a lot of Chicagoans never supporting another franchise though. Probably only the people who call the Sears Tower, Willis Tower.

Where does Willis Tower come from?
 

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