Clock management (Lions game)

[HearshotKDS]

I give Caleb credit for at least knowing he had to throw a semi hail Mary to the end zone due to the time left

I think Caleb mistakenly thought they had no timeouts left. Which is stupid as ****, but not the craziest mistake a rookie has ever made in a high pressure situation. That to me is the most convincing explanation for his actions in the last 20 seconds of the game. I have no clue what was going through Eberflus head when he and the entire sideline saw Caleb changing the play at the line while precious seconds ticked away.

 

[TheEarlofRobin]

I didn't cry about the refs. But you cherry picked only the call that went against the Lions when in reality it was a horribly officiated game on both sides.

I thought that the game was over-officiated at times, and at times it was a brawl. I don't know if it had an effect on the game, but the dumbest call was when the Bears guy got called for a horse-collar tackle when his hand touched the back of the ballcarrier for an instant. That was NBA-level officiating of "creating a call".

 

[remydat]

If he snapped it, it was likely a penalty because Kmet & Moore couldn’t figure out how to line up.

That is likely because he changed the play.

That’s Jim Dray’s responsibility. He’s the TE coach. He needed to sit Kmet down with a Surface, show him the play, and make the correction.

Kmet ran a successful pick player a few times that game. He is just an idiot for fucking it up a 2nd time.

 

[TheEarlofRobin]

Kmet ran a successful pick player a few times that game. He is just an idiot for fucking it up a 2nd time.

It was like he thought the Lions DB was a pass-rushing DE.

 

[remydat]

Or your dumbass coach not calling a time out.
Missed calls and bad calls on both sides of the ball that game, Bears fans always acting like the losers they are crying as if it only happens to them.
Most important is the last drive, and the fact remains, that was not PI, they missed a false start, and the game should have been over already.

/end debate

No most important was the BS horse collar as it was 3rd and 8 so the Lions would have punted. It directly caused 7 points.

The 2 plays you mention did not lead to points and were only impactful because of the 7 points the refs gave the Lions.

Game should have been 20-16 which changes the whole ending of the game.

And no I am not complaining about the refs. I am merely correcting your erroneous logic.

 

[Calabis]

Not as pathetic as the PI that was called on the Lions defender that wasn't even close to a PI, that got the Bears in that position to begin with.
Just stop already with your refs excuses BS.
and while we are on the subject, what about the non call false start by the Bears on the same play as the bogus PI call?

It was PI, wth are u complaining about

 

[DaBears3434]

I expect to lose tonight. too may injuries.

WRONG! You’re an idiot.

 

[4THQUARTERCLUTCHLER]

Caleb is playing chess not checkers he knew not calling that timeout would result in Eberflus being fired. He's just playing dumb now

 

[Discus fish salesman]

That is likely because he changed the play.

Kmet on "the 85" podcast actually said that because of them being rushed and just having to get back to the LOS Moore was lined up in a spot that he usually isn't so he and Moore had to talk it out and get situated. Basically highlighting again that what was happening was something the guys weren't use to/comfortable with and that a coach who isn't a moron would've called a timeout

 

[bamainatlanta]

Kmet on "the 85" podcast actually said that because of them being rushed and just having to get back to the LOS Moore was lined up in a spot that he usually isn't so he and Moore had to talk it out and get situated. Basically highlighting again that what was happening was something the guys weren't use to/comfortable with and that a coach who isn't a moron would've called a timeout

Eberflus just looked like a deer in the headlights in late game situations. Nagy did too.

 

[remydat]

Kmet on "the 85" podcast actually said that because of them being rushed and just having to get back to the LOS Moore was lined up in a spot that he usually isn't so he and Moore had to talk it out and get situated. Basically highlighting again that what was happening was something the guys weren't use to/comfortable with and that a coach who isn't a moron would've called a timeout

We all know Flus is an idiot for not calling the TO. However that doesnt excuse the players from being idiots. Kmet and his 2 dumb pick penalties for example. So not willing to just absolve the players for their **** ups.

 

[NeverDieEasy]

Or your dumbass coach not calling a time out.
Missed calls and bad calls on both sides of the ball that game, Bears fans always acting like the losers they are crying as if it only happens to them.
Most important is the last drive, and the fact remains, that was not PI, they missed a false start, and the game should have been over already.

/end debate

EX-dumbass coach, Dumbass

/fact/fact

 

[nc0gnet0]

EX-dumbass coach, Dumbass

/fact/fact

he was the coach at the time, dumbass.

 

[NeverDieEasy]

he was the coach at the time, dumbass.

Nope. I fired him right after the game, Dumbass!

 

[SugabearMVP]

Kmet on "the 85" podcast actually said that because of them being rushed and just having to get back to the LOS Moore was lined up in a spot that he usually isn't so he and Moore had to talk it out and get situated. Basically highlighting again that what was happening was something the guys weren't use to/comfortable with and that a coach who isn't a moron would've called a timeout

So honestly speaking, how much of that play is Thomas Brown's fault? Seriously you wait until the last play of the game to run a route your guys are not really "comfortable" with? Man so much is wrong with this team its unbelievable at times.

 

[remydat]

So honestly speaking, how much of that play is Thomas Brown's fault? Seriously you wait until the last play of the game to run a route your guys are not really "comfortable" with? Man so much is wrong with this team its unbelievable at times.

It was supposed to be a draw not a route and same play as previous down so literally just ran it. The issue again is Caleb changed the play.

 

[SugabearMVP]

It was supposed to be a draw not a route and same play as previous down so literally just ran it. The issue again is Caleb changed the play.

Oh wow, sorry I wasn't aware Caleb audibled. I thought Kmet was strictly talking about the play that Brown had called.

 

[bamainatlanta]

So honestly speaking, how much of that play is Thomas Brown's fault? Seriously you wait until the last play of the game to run a route your guys are not really "comfortable" with? Man so much is wrong with this team its unbelievable at times.

I think they all deserve some of the blame. Kmet, Moore, Caleb, Brown and Everlose. And then Rome for running a stupid route.

 

[vabearsfan15]

One can nitpick as to who to place blame on, but at the end of the day its on the coach to communicate and be two steps ahead of the team in these situations. Flus never learned from his initial mistakes. He was simply too stubborn to adjust his process, let alone was terrible at in game adjustments. His whole system predicated on a grading scale to be evaluated after the game and the middle of the week. He stuck with his defendive scheme no matter how the opposing team was attacking and having success against it.

It all comes down to Flus being terrible at in-game adjudtmentmemts necessary to give his team the edge. I think he was 0-10 or something on challenges too. It all goes to show he is ill-equipped to make decisions on the fly. He is winging it too much instead of having full control of the operation..that's what got him canned. Maybe he gets another opportunity in the future and can be maniacal about the details then..

 

[Canth]

I think even more damning against Eberflus and clock management was the interview this week with new interim OC Chris Beatty.

Beatty talked about how in previous coaching staffs, going all the way back to high school, he really studied and worked specifically on clock management and situational stuff. He said Thomas Brown knows that it was "one of his things" from their time together at Wisconsin like 12 years. He followed that with how Thomas Brown and him are already changing the game day operation up to try and clean that up.

So, Eberflus actually had a guy on his coaching staff that had experience in helping in that specific area of clock management...and he didn't use him.