Cole Kmet Contract Revisited

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Just curious, when you say 33rd and 44th, is that just out of TE's?
Yes but you also have to remove the part time blockers. Out of TE’s that are expected to catch and block, his importance is much higher.
 

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Kmet inked a 4 year, $50M contract at the start of the season with an AAV of $12.5M. $22M Fully Guaranteed.

In terms of AAV, this put Kmet right about the 10th highest paid TE. I think the general consensus on CCS was that it was a good signing, but maybe a slight overpay for the player (IIRC) - knowing that Kmet isn't necessarily a dynamic receiving threat such as Kelce/Kittle.

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I feel like he's been having a pretty solid season production wise, so with 2 games left I wanted to dig into the numbers a bit and see where he's stacking up with his peers.

Receptions:
1. Evan Engram - 98
2. TJ Hockenson - 95 (Iowa)
3. Travis Kelce - 90
4. David Njoku - 75
5. Sam LaPorta - 74 (Iowa)
6. Trey McBride - 72
7. Cole Kmet - 70

Yards:
1. George Kittle - 991 (Iowa)
2. Travis Kelce - 968
3. TJ Hockenson - 960 (Iowa)
4. Evan Engram - 824
5. Sam LaPorta - 776 (Iowa)
6. David Njoku - 748
7. Trey McBride - 743
8. Cole Kmet - 678

Touchdowns:
1. Sam LaPorta - 9 (Iowa)
2. Cole Kmet - 6
2. George Kittle - 6 (Iowa)
2. Mark Andrews - 6
2. David Njoku - 6
2. Hunter Henry - 6
3. TJ Hockenson - 5 (Iowa)

Targets:
1. TJ Hockenson - 127 (Iowa)
2. Evan Engram - 124
3. Travis Kelce - 117
4. David Njoku - 115
5. Sam LaPorta - 101 (Iowa)
6. Trey McBride - 93
7. Jake Ferguson - 90
8. George Kittle - 86 (Iowa)
9. Cole Kmet - 86

Looking at the contract Kmet signed and his production with two games to go, I'd say Poles did a pretty solid job on this one. Throw in some more targets and he's borderline top 5 in all categories. Also interesting to note - Kmet is only 24. Consider me #TeamKMET
Kmet's a kmeeper and he is another significant victory for Poles, who is on a rolls . . .
 

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If you put any creedence into PFF they also have him ranked 10th in the league in overall offense out of all TEs...

consequently, Mercedes Lewis is the 6th highest ranked TE on offense...


you can take that for what its worth.
 

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Nobody is downplaying Kmet's usefulness in the blocking department. Just harder to quantify that. I suppose PFF has some metric they use and if you have that information feel free to share.
No metric. I just seen nice blocking when watching. He makes key blocks often.
 

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Just curious, when you say 33rd and 44th, is that just out of TE's?

Yes.

Yes but you also have to remove the part time blockers. Out of TE’s that are expected to catch and block, his importance is much higher.

I filtered for 20% play time. If I dp 50% then he is 21st and 29th.
 

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If you put any creedence into PFF they also have him ranked 10th in the league in overall offense out of all TEs...

consequently, Mercedes Lewis is the 6th highest ranked TE on offense...


you can take that for what its worth.

Kmet is 8th if you remove guys with less than 25 targets ie 20%. Lewis doesnt have enough targets to qualify.

But yeah Kmet's overall grade is higher because his receiving grade has improved which was always my point. At that price tag you need a TE that can impact the pass game and Kmet has taken a step forward in that department this year.
 

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Kmet is 8th if you remove guys with less than 25 targets ie 20%. Lewis doesnt have enough targets to qualify.

But yeah Kmet's overall grade is higher because his receiving grade has improved which was always my point. At that price tag you a TE that can catch the ball not just block and Kmet had taken a step in that department this year.
Overall offense

its the OFF stat it measure all offensive categories agregate....both meet PFF minimum snaps.

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Great signing - he's only going to get better in the coming years because TEs don't hit their peaks until their late 20s, early 30s.

Barring catastrophic injury he'll be a really good player for the remainder of his contract. We'd be better off if he was our third receiving option but that's not his fault and his contract is reflective of that.
 

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I have always said he reminds me of a young Travis Kelce.

Trust me. I see a lot (all) the Chiefs football down here.

It's a damn shame, though.

This new girlfriend thing reminds of Yoko taking down The Beatles and Patsy Cline taking the Big Bopper down with her.
 

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Overall offense

its the OFF stat it measure all offensive categories agregate....both meet PFF minimum snaps.

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Yeah you filtered by blocking snaps. I filtered by targets so Lewis doesnt have enough targets as he only has 5. It also drops Pharoah Brown and Josh Oliver as they have 11 and 23 targets respectively.

I filter for targets to get rid of guys who are mostly blocking tight ends whose receiving grade is problematic due to small sample size.

If Pharaoh Brown was really an 89 grade receiver he would get more than 11 targets for example.
 

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Yeah you filtered by blocking snaps. I filtered by targets so Lewis doesnt have enough targets as he only has 5. It also drops Pharoah Brown and Josh Oliver as they have 11 and 23 targets respectively.

I filter for targets to get rid of guys who are mostly blocking tight ends whose receiving grade is problematic due to small sample size.

If Pharaoh Brown was really an 89 grade receiver he would get more than 11 targets for example.

I did not filter by blocking snaps.

I didn't filter anything except minimum offensive snaps.

These are PFF agregate OFF scores with the only thing filtered out is people not qualifying for having the minimum amount of snaps.

The OFF scores measure all "offensive abilities" including pass catching and blocking.

Mercedes Lweis meets the PFF minimum snap count.
 

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I have always said he reminds me of a young Travis Kelce.

Trust me. I see a lot (all) the Chiefs football down here.

It's a damn shame, though.

This new girlfriend thing reminds of Yoko taking down The Beatles and Patsy Cline taking the Big Bopper down with her.
The Swiftie curse is real
 

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I have always said he reminds me of a young Travis Kelce.

Trust me. I see a lot (all) the Chiefs football down here.

It's a damn shame, though.

This new girlfriend thing reminds of Yoko taking down The Beatles and Patsy Cline taking the Big Bopper down with her.
The Swiftie curse is real
I think the Chiefs' recent struggles have more to do with having no receivers and Kelce getting a bit old than anything else tbh.
 

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I have always said he reminds me of a young Travis Kelce.

Trust me. I see a lot (all) the Chiefs football down here.

It's a damn shame, though.

This new girlfriend thing reminds of Yoko taking down The Beatles and Patsy Cline taking the Big Bopper down with her.
grizz and tigers fan, huh? you from the M?
 

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I think the Chiefs' recent struggles have more to do with having no receivers and Kelce getting a bit old than anything else tbh.
...and the Swiftie curse.....

if anything we've learned in Chicago that all good QBs should be able throw to anyone...Having bad receivers is just a crutch.

Since Mahomes is the greatest QB of all time it has to be Taylor Swift....only explanation.
 

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I did not filter by blocking snaps.

I didn't filter anything except minimum offensive snaps.

These are PFF agregate OFF scores with the only thing filtered out is people not qualifying for having the minimum amount of snaps.

The OFF scores measure all "offensive abilities" including pass catching and blocking.

Mercedes Lweis meets the PFF minimum snap count.

Brown has an 89 grade for receiving on 11 targets. Thus his OFF overall score is inflated by such a high grade on so few targets. He isnt really an 89 receiver because if he were actually that good he would get more than 11 targets.

So the point is you want to grade the guys that are high enough sample sizes acrossing blocking and receiving. Just going by snaps includes guys who barely get thrown the ball.
 

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Brown has an 89 grade for receiving on 11 targets. Thus his OFF overall score is inflated by such a high grade on so few targets. He isnt really an 89 receiver because if he were actually that good he would get more than 11 targets.

I'm just going by what PFF values....

either OFF is a meaniful measurement or PFF is a bit smoke and mirrors and not really to be trusted.
 

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