Corey Crawford Has To Go

[icehogfan08]

That fourth line sucks...

Upgrade it NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok trade them 3 for Malkin, Crosby, and Kunitz

 

[icehogfan08]

the funniest part is Beach making the team

Only cause I think joe is a fan of his

 

[DMelt36]

the funniest part is Beach making the team

Hahahaha

 

[inactiveuser1]

I like Versteeg :tiptoe:


I don't follow hockey as closely as other sports, so who are the big name goalies not named Luongo that we have a shot at?

 

[dabynsky]

I like Versteeg :tiptoe:


I don't follow hockey as closely as other sports, so who are the big name goalies not named Luongo that we have a shot at?

Loungo isn't a free agent. He is signed to a big, long term contract. His backup, Schneider, is a restricted free agent. There is a fair bit of speculation that the Canucks would love to move Loungo's contract and resign Schneider which is why there is speculation about the Hawks possibly being a landing a spot for Loungo.

 

[icehogfan08]

To be honest we are probably stuck with Crawford. We can't just add a big goalie contract and not upgrade elsewhere. Maybe Crawford can be moved in the deal to help with cap, but it's unlikely. The way it sounds we may add a winger and defender then finish off the roster with vets or prospects

 

[nwfisch]

To be honest we are probably stuck with Crawford. We can't just add a big goalie contract and not upgrade elsewhere. Maybe Crawford can be moved in the deal to help with cap, but it's unlikely. The way it sounds we may add a winger and defender then finish off the roster with vets or prospects

Stan blow and his infatuation with prospects.

 

[dabynsky]

To be honest we are probably stuck with Crawford. We can't just add a big goalie contract and not upgrade elsewhere. Maybe Crawford can be moved in the deal to help with cap, but it's unlikely. The way it sounds we may add a winger and defender then finish off the roster with vets or prospects

Yeah I am guessing that the help on this roster is going to have to come from within the system for better or worse.

 

[icehogfan08]

Stan blow and his infatuation with prospects.

It's funny cause in pretty sure I've seen him post about Kenny Williams ruining the Sox farm system. No matter what but when joe posts I think there's alway going to be something negative. Now if we had crappy prospects I'm sure Stan blow would be in the same boat as K dubb

 

[DewsSox79]

It's funny cause in pretty sure I've seen him post about Kenny Williams ruining the Sox farm system. No matter what but when joe posts I think there's alway going to be something negative. Now if we had crappy prospects I'm sure Stan blow would be in the same boat as K dubb

In baseball I could care less about the farm system rankings. Just have some pieces that can be used as trade chips and thats it. I dont care about the charlotte knights winning games I care about the sox. Prospects are a crap shoot. Example: joe borchard, felix pie, corey patterson, gordon beckham etc. I know you like the hogs but I could care less about what prospects do down there, just have a few that another team may want so you can trade for nhl roster players.

 

[Crystallas]

It's too bad Crawford is making 500-750k more than he's worth. He would be an AWESOME second goaltender on this team that can split the season with a veteran.

 

[Everyday I'm Byfuglien]

To be honest we are probably stuck with Crawford. We can't just add a big goalie contract and not upgrade elsewhere. Maybe Crawford can be moved in the deal to help with cap, but it's unlikely. The way it sounds we may add a winger and defender then finish off the roster with vets or prospects

Crawford can be moved. His paper isn't terrible and someone would give him a shot.

Also, the Hawks can take on a bigger goalie contract if they'd be willing to move a big contract (I know... duh). I'm not saying they will or even that they should, but they've tried 2 years now with this "lets have a high paid core of really good dudes filled out with cheap goaltending and various plugs".

It hasn't worked. More importantly, we're seeing teams win with big name goalies. Detroit gave everyone the idea that you could win with average goaltending and a lot of puck moving skill. What has Detroit done the last 3 seasons? Nothing.

Things have changed and it's worth thinking about changing the makeup of the Hawks.

 

[Captain Iago]

Bolland for Luongo, straight up.

MAKE IT HAPPEN :lol:

Do you think he has the talent to crack that roster? I'm not so sure...:lol:

 

[DMelt36]

Crawford can be moved. His paper isn't terrible and someone would give him a shot.

Also, the Hawks can take on a bigger goalie contract if they'd be willing to move a big contract (I know... duh). I'm not saying they will or even that they should, but they've tried 2 years now with this "lets have a high paid core of really good dudes filled out with cheap goaltending and various plugs".

It hasn't worked. More importantly, we're seeing teams win with big name goalies. Detroit gave everyone the idea that you could win with average goaltending and a lot of puck moving skill. What has Detroit done the last 3 seasons? Nothing.

Things have changed and it's worth thinking about changing the makeup of the Hawks.

While I'll definitely say it's trending this way, I'm not going to say that clutch-and-grab hockey is back to stay. While the defensive-dominant teams won all 4 series in the West, there were other developments that factored into the "skilled" teams losing.

Detroit's been getting real, real old for awhile now, particularly on the blue line--and they've also been getting slower.

Vancouver and Chicago each had to play half of their series without one of their best players.

Boston won a Cup last year with a defensive style. Before that, you had two teams (Chicago and Pittsburgh) playing a more open style that won the Cup. I'll start changing my mind if the West wins the Cup this year.

Also, keep in mind that with a new CBA needed before next season, there could always be some rule changes.

 

[Everyday I'm Byfuglien]

While I'll definitely say it's trending this way, I'm not going to say that clutch-and-grab hockey is back to stay. While the defensive-dominant teams won all 4 series in the West, there were other developments that factored into the "skilled" teams losing.

Detroit's been getting real, real old for awhile now, particularly on the blue line--and they've also been getting slower.

Vancouver and Chicago each had to play half of their series without one of their best players.

Boston won a Cup last year with a defensive style. Before that, you had two teams (Chicago and Pittsburgh) playing a more open style that won the Cup. I'll start changing my mind if the West wins the Cup this year.

Also, keep in mind that with a new CBA needed before next season, there could always be some rule changes.

Rule changes that are looking to make the game safer (read: slower). I don't think Scotty Bowman's "ringettes" are going to bring us back to the glory days of 5-4 games every other night.

Penalties and goals are both way down. Lower than pre-lockout and they've been trending that way for a while now. EVERYONE blocks shots now (except the Hawks :lol and goalies and defensemen are bigger and faster than ever.

It's no fluke that Keith isn't the norris winning d-man he was 2 years ago. The silky fast smaller guys aren't what's getting it done. It's the big bastards that have cannons for shots and the size to successfully out-body forwards that are smaller than them (which is just about all of them). The ability to clear a crease is every bit as important as carrying the mail and starting the rush.

 

[DMelt36]

Rule changes that are looking to make the game safer (read: slower). I don't think Scotty Bowman's "ringettes" are going to bring us back to the glory days of 5-4 games every other night.

Penalties and goals are both way down. Lower than pre-lockout and they've been trending that way for a while now. EVERYONE blocks shots now (except the Hawks :lol and goalies and defensemen are bigger and faster than ever.

It's no fluke that Keith isn't the norris winning d-man he was 2 years ago. The silky fast smaller guys aren't what's getting it done. It's the big bastards that have cannons for shots and the size to successfully out-body forwards that are smaller than them (which is just about all of them). The ability to clear a crease is every bit as important as carrying the mail and starting the rush.

So I can lock Seabrook in for the Norris next year? Got it. :lol:

It does feel like the NHL is going back to that late 90s, early 2000s style. I hate it.

 

[dabynsky]

Rule changes that are looking to make the game safer (read: slower). I don't think Scotty Bowman's "ringettes" are going to bring us back to the glory days of 5-4 games every other night.

Penalties and goals are both way down. Lower than pre-lockout and they've been trending that way for a while now. EVERYONE blocks shots now (except the Hawks :lol and goalies and defensemen are bigger and faster than ever.

It's no fluke that Keith isn't the norris winning d-man he was 2 years ago. The silky fast smaller guys aren't what's getting it done. It's the big bastards that have cannons for shots and the size to successfully out-body forwards that are smaller than them (which is just about all of them). The ability to clear a crease is every bit as important as carrying the mail and starting the rush.

This is the most depressing post I have read about the future of the NHL. Mostly because I can't find a counter to any of it.

 

[Everyday I'm Byfuglien]

So I can lock Seabrook in for the Norris next year? Got it. :lol:

I think he'll win it before Keith does again.

 

[Diehardfan]

I think he'll win it before Keith does again.

I agree. Seabrook has been the Hawks best dman for awhile now. For all the spectacular defensive plays Keith makes, they are over shadowed by dumb passes and an abundance of silly turnovers. Keith has very little physical game which makes his carelessness with the puck all the more noticable.