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For Christmas my cousin gets beers.

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Can I be your cousin? Nice looking selection.
 

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Freshness dates are a load of crap, just a marketing tool. Most beers get better from conditioning in the bottle a few months, preferably in a cool dark place. Any home brewer knows this.

It's actually the bottled date, IPAs are usually freshest for about 90-120 days after that date, stay away from the ones over 12 months (obviously) stouts don't matter except for the milk and nitro stouts.
 

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Can I be your cousin? Nice looking selection.

Let me know how that green flash is. Been looking around for it and when I find it I would like to know if it's worth getting or not.
 

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Oh and if you tip the bottle upside down and right side up and see little specks they look like (they're actually the hops and pieces of yeast) don't get it.
 

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Oh and if you tip the bottle upside down and right side up and see little specks they look like (they're actually the hops and pieces of yeast) don't get it.

Yeast is fine. Bottled conditioned beers still have yeast in them, that's ther sediment at the bottom. Perfectly normal.
 

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Yeast is fine. Bottled conditioned beers still have yeast in them, that's ther sediment at the bottom. Perfectly normal.

What I'm saying is the IPAs are the ones with that you want to stay away from.
 

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I'm a touch drunk. Working on beer four. All of them over 7%. That Celebrator is fantastic. I was a little worried because it's a well regarded beer and I've been wanting to try it for a really long time so my expectations were a bit high. At first I was even scared to try it after pouring it. It smells very sweet and I don't like sweet beers. But you get a little bite of bitterness from the hops and then on the back end you get some sweet sweet molasses. As the beer warms though the hops come out a bit more and the malts starts taking on more of a toasty note. About halfway through the first I realized this is a awesome beer and not too sweet.
 

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I'm a touch drunk. Working on beer four. All of them over 7%. That Celebrator is fantastic. I was a little worried because it's a well regarded beer and I've been wanting to try it for a really long time so my expectations were a bit high. At first I was even scared to try it after pouring it. It smells very sweet and I don't like sweet beers. But you get a little bite of bitterness from the hops and then on the back end you get some sweet sweet molasses. As the beer warms though the hops come out a bit more and the malts starts taking on more of a toasty note. About halfway through the first I realized this is a awesome beer and not too sweet.

Very nice. I had an opportunity to visit Ayinger while in Germany.
 

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I'm a touch drunk. Working on beer four. All of them over 7%. That Celebrator is fantastic. I was a little worried because it's a well regarded beer and I've been wanting to try it for a really long time so my expectations were a bit high. At first I was even scared to try it after pouring it. It smells very sweet and I don't like sweet beers. But you get a little bite of bitterness from the hops and then on the back end you get some sweet sweet molasses. As the beer warms though the hops come out a bit more and the malts starts taking on more of a toasty note. About halfway through the first I realized this is a awesome beer and not too sweet.

Touch drunk already? Shit wish I was so lucky. Most of the beer I drink it strong and I still need 6 for a buzz. Anyways drinking some normal stuff tonight, got 5 Yuengling lined up after my pounder of Guiness followed with a pounder of Heineken and might try the Yuengling Porter afterwards.
 

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Hops provide IPU bitterness and some citrus/grassy/piney/flowery undertones depending on the vareity used. It might loose some aroma, but it won't loose much bitterness.

What they ought to print on the bottle is how fresh the hops were, weather they used whole hops, leaves or ground up pelletized hops, that would give you a better idea of the quality of the hops.

I've cellared barley wines for 18 months and longer, they get nothing but better and they are typically hop bombs as well. I've drank IPAs after cellaring 1 month, 3 months and 6 months and could not notice any difference except maybe slightly less aroma

Although I've bought a few IPAs that tasted like shit and were old, I can give one specific example. I love Wookey Jack and have had it many times. I bought a bomber at my local Hy Vee and took it to my buddy's house and we both poured a glass and both thought it tasted totally off. Immediately, we knew it was bad. Sure enough, that beer was quite old and I was unhappy.

If you drink old IPAs and don't think they taste any different, I don't know what to tell you. I've also had an IPA that my buddy's cousin cellared (not sure how long) and it tasted like complete ass. Pure malt bomb with no hop flavor or aroma to speak of.
 

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Founders is where it's at. Tis the season for the Breakfast Stout, which is fucking amazing. Firestone Brewing Company and their Double Jack IPA is fucking awesome too.
 

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It would be cool to set up a blind tasting. I'd bet dollars to donuts the average craft beer imbiber couldn't tell the difference between a cellared IPA at 1, 3, or 6 months, much like the average bottled water drinker couldn't tell the difference between brands of bottled water and garden hose water. That was perhaps the best Penn and Teller Bullshit episode ever.
 

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My wife is setting up a 20s-30s womens meet up at our house to trade unique beers. Should be interesting. I have 4 homebrews on tap and HOPEFULLY my Christmas beer (dubbed: Glaciation Ale) will be ready by then.
 

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Industrial harbor IPA by bulldog brewing in whiting Indiana.
8.% ABV
 

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