Crawford Signs Six year extension

[Ton]

Yes, they won with Niemi and Crawford in a span of 4 years. So let Crawford walk because we can do it again in another 4 years after we find another goaltender! What kind of logical argument is this?</p>


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Good luck, the Hawks already struck gold twice. They didn't want to make the same mistake again and have to search for a third.</p>

 

[jakobeast]

6 years at 6 mill? Yeah, that seems steep for a goalie.</p>


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However.....</p>


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He has been with the Hawks for pert near 10 years. He was stuck in Rockford after the Hawks signed Huet in a McSplash move. He fought his way to the Hawks bench, and yes, had some hiccups along the way. However, I never once heard him get the prima donna attitude and say he should be the number one. I never heard leak anything about Crow being pissed and wanting a trade because of it. </p>


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After a pretty shitty showing in '11-'12, he bounced back in an amazing way. He has shown he is a solid goalie. I am not crazy about the length or the 6 mill, but I am not a GM. I think Stan knows a bit more about the cap situation and where it is heading. I will not wring my hands over this. This is a fine signing.</p>


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He committed to the Indianhead. Now, the Indianhead committed to him.</p>

 

[winos5]

I think people get more excited by splash moves and re-signing home grown talent deserving of such is more ho-hum every day stuff.  How many of the people criticizing Crow's extension were on board for the rumored trade to get Greasy Lou's bloated contracted last season I wonder?</p>


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Maybe we should dig that thread up....</p>


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Just watched the Stanley Cup finals saves montage they have for Crawford at the officials.   Pretty good body of work and some amazing glove and skating going side to side by Crow.</p>

 

[MassHavoc]

I like Corey. I think he should get a raise. I think he should get an extension. But neither of which came close to the number 6. Oh well. Glad he's staying. Sucks for whoever we lose because of it. Hope he continues to play well and they can get some trade value out of him in a few years when they need cap space.</p>

 

[LordKOTL]

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Whether or not you like this deal, there should be no doubt that the team is comfortable playing in front of Crawford. This past season he proved that he can provide consistency and stability in the net. To me, that is more important than a goaltender that can "steal you a game" every once and a while. That's what you pay your back-up for.

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As far as the argument that any decent goaltender can win a Cup — please. Just stop. That's a slap in the face to any goaltender that has lifted the Cup in the past, and those in the future. Crawford was more than decent this past season, he was brilliant, and probably deserved the Conn Smythe. Just as Quick before him and Thomas before him.</p>
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If that was the case:  that an average goalie behind a decent team can win the cup, then we could have just stuck with Lalime. </p>


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Like I said, I think it's maybe a mil too much and about a year too long, but I'm not unhappy.  Really the extra mil and extra year is ****-all in a 5-year plan, so-to-speak.  By the numbers Craw effectively got a 3.333M/yr raise, which means losing Bolland pretty much covered it.</p>

 

[mikita's helmet]

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In the last 5 years they've won 2 Stanley Cups with two different starting goalies.</p>
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...two in the last four years.</p>

 

[Rex]

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I think people get more excited by splash moves and re-signing home grown talent deserving of such is more ho-hum every day stuff.  How many of the people criticizing Crow's extension were on board for the rumored trade to get Greasy Lou's bloated contracted last season I wonder?</p>


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Maybe we should dig that thread up....</p>


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Just watched the Stanley Cup finals saves montage they have for Crawford at the officials.   Pretty good body of work and some amazing glove and skating going side to side by Crow.</p>
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so much truth here. Everyone wanted to bring over Lou last year. But then again he only makes 5.4 mil...for the next 9 years. </p>

 

[R K]

Even further anyone suggesting Crawfords contract is untradeable, should look no further than Lou who had several teams inquiring but the dumb ass Canucks were asking far to much.  Even that NINE years left had other teams wanting him.  Toronto, Florida, Philly and a couple of others.</p>

 

[Rex]

lets just do the math on this one, since people are saying Crow isn't Lundqvist elite.</p>


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Kari Lehtinen makes 5.9 for 5 years.</p>


Cam Ward makes 6.3 for 6 years</p>


Mike Smith makes 5.7 for 6 years</p>


Fleury makes 5 mil for 7 years </p>


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the big comparison is Carey Price. Price had a terrible sophomore year, likely worse than Crawfords. Price is 2 years younger than Crawford, has never made it past the second round. 6.5 million for 6 years.</p>


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I said before that I felt the term was long, but it just seems on par for market value for a goalie who in 3 years made the NHL all rookie team, Jennings Trophy, 3 straight playoff appearances, two 30 win seasons (would be three if not for the lockout) A Stanley Cup, and Conn Smythe consideration. Plus, his value would have only been higher if he made team Canada. </p>


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oh, and Rask is 7 mil at 8 years. </p>

 

[The Count Dante]

Love the player. Love the amount. Hate the duration.</p>


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This is now a very hard contract to move, should it be needed.</p>


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But Crow deserves the loyalty and cash from Hawks. He has earned it.</p>

 

[Forklift]

Better than sign him now, then wait until Crawford can add an Olympic medal to the Jennings Trophy and Stanley Cup he could drop on the negotiating table.</p>

 

[R K]

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Love the player. Love the amount. Hate the duration.</p>


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This is now a very hard contract to move, should it be needed.</p>


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But Crow deserves the loyalty and cash from Hawks. He has earned it.</p>
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See I do not believe ANY contract is hard to move.  If Lou's could be moved any could be.</p>

 

[The Count Dante]

And even Soupy got his moved...so certainly point taken.</p>


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I am just personally not a fan of long large contracts for goalies. This is NOT to say that Crow doesnt deserve a raise and his loyalty is proven with all his time in Rockford. With the Ring, he earned it.</p>


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I also think he owns those pipes as well and even the hardest nay-sayers have to take a back seat with his record and Ring.</p>


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Goalie contracts are always a bit funny and cause a little nervousness.</p>


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But on the not-needed-bright-side, how nice would it be to NOT have the pipes as a question every Herb-damned year?</p>

 

[R K]

It will be interesting to see how it works out with Raanta.  Obviously they think he needs some experience at the NA game style, which is why they brought Khabi in for a stop gap.  It could be very well in two years Crawford/Raanta are the pair with Raanta having a chance. </p>


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And in hind sight, knowing Khabi's age and injury history (alot like Emery), Raanta may get the back up call sooner than later.</p>


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If Raanta was in the system at the start of the playoffs last year, he'd have been the back up.  Emery was down and out.</p>

 

[Shantz My Pants]

Dave Lozo over at backhand shelf made an interesting idea that nobody has mentioned yet. Why did Bowman not wait until after the season the talk terms with Crawford? Make sure he didn't have a one and done type year? Not many teams this upcoming offseason are going to be in need of a starting goalie.


Crawford has come a long way, but I really think another six years is pretty heavy. 3-4 years? Sure. 6 years for one really good season is the same as the Bickell contract.

 

[winos5]

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Dave Lozo over at backhand shelf made an interesting idea that nobody has mentioned yet. Why did Bowman not wait until after the season the talk terms with Crawford? Make sure he didn't have a one and done type year? Not many teams this upcoming offseason are going to be in need of a starting goalie.


Crawford has come a long way, but I really think another six years is pretty heavy. 3-4 years? Sure. 6 years for one really good season is the same as the Bickell contract.</p>
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That means very few quality UFA goalies available as well.   Stick with the Stanley Cup goalie you know instead of gambling on the unknown with all things pointing toward the salary cap  being significantly higher.   The contract is not that bad considering Crow's body of work.</p>

 

[Forklift]

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That means very few quality UFA goalies available as well.   Stick with the Stanley Cup goalie you know instead of gambling on the unknown with all things pointing toward the salary cap  being significantly higher.   The contract is not that bad considering Crow's body of work.</p>
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Not to mention, his price was never going to drop. Let's just enjoy the fact that we have the most stability at goaltender that we've had since the Eagle.</p>

 

[Rex]

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Dave Lozo over at backhand shelf made an interesting idea that nobody has mentioned yet. Why did Bowman not wait until after the season the talk terms with Crawford? Make sure he didn't have a one and done type year? Not many teams this upcoming offseason are going to be in need of a starting goalie.


Crawford has come a long way, but I really think another six years is pretty heavy. 3-4 years? Sure. 6 years for one really good season is the same as the Bickell contract.</p>
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Why wait? Crow will only be worth more once you add an Olympic Medal to his resume. </p>

 

[R K]

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Dave Lozo over at backhand shelf made an interesting idea that nobody has mentioned yet.? Make sure he didn't have a one and done type year? Not many teams this upcoming offseason are going to be in need of a starting goalie.


Crawford has come a long way, but I really think another six years is pretty heavy. 3-4 years? Sure. 6 years for one really good season is the same as the Bickell contract.</p>
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Yea after he adds an Olympic Gold and possibly another Cup.  Probably should have waited. </p>

 

[The Count Dante]

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Dave Lozo over at backhand shelf made an interesting idea that nobody has mentioned yet. Why did Bowman not wait until after the season the talk terms with Crawford? Make sure he didn't have a one and done type year? Not many teams this upcoming offseason are going to be in need of a starting goalie.


Crawford has come a long way, but I really think another six years is pretty heavy. 3-4 years? Sure. 6 years for one really good season is the same as the Bickell contract.</p>
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I think that Crow has superceded this. I dont think there is a question of a one and done year, only because he has been with the Hawks for a very long time.</p>