Crosstown Rivalry: The beatdown thread

[Parade_Rain]

I always found it funny people talked about Prince Fielder weight so much, but never Miguel Cabrera. I saw them standing next to each other one day and Miggy looks like the bigger man. I mean he is much taller, but he is wider than Prince. If Prince is 300 then Miggy isn't far behind.

They also aren't going to win a gold glove any time soon.

 

[Raskolnikov]

That would surprise me. So much so I think it's a lie. Heyward is athletic not thin, but what are we listing Schwarbaby at for this lie?

If Kyle is 6' he has to weigh 240

 

[Diehardfan]

FYI, ChicagoCubs.com listing Heyward at 6'5" 240 lbs. Kyle at 6'0" 235 lbs.

Kyle's numbers are close to NFL linebackers...which he physically resembles as well.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

http://crime.chicagotribune.com/chi...lar Field&lng=-87.6350479126&lat=41.830871582

vs.

http://crime.chicagotribune.com/chi... Field, IL&lng=-87.6566085815&lat=41.94739151

 

[DMelt36]

Too soon. And fucked up to kick people after something like this.

You can hate the Cubs, the Cubs fans and still feel terrible for Kyle. Baseball itself lost a hero. How can you not like that guy? His attitude? His drive to prove he can catch. The unreasonable raw power.

It's a fucking tragedy still sinking in. The reason I had to kick the Cubs fans here in this thread over it was the spirit of this thread was gleeful Cubs douches so antsy and eager to kick around some depressed Sox fans.

Individuals who need a good laughing at, Though I feel guilty involving this level of just pure tragedy.

It depends entirely on the character of the fan. My buddies who are the non-obnoxious Cubs fans, I sent a text along the lines of "man, that sucks" when Schwarber went down. But the trolly, douchy Cubs fans I know? The texts were something like "maybe if Schwarber knew how to play OF that would've happened what a fucking idiot."

I think the vast majority of Sox fans and Cubs fans are decent folk. But the small portion who ruin it deserve to be trolled at every turn, and a season-ending injury to a young, exciting talent is perfect fodder for the cannon.

 

[DMelt36]

http://crime.chicagotribune.com/chi...lar Field&lng=-87.6350479126&lat=41.830871582

vs.

http://crime.chicagotribune.com/chi... Field, IL&lng=-87.6566085815&lat=41.94739151

Quoted for the mother fucking truth.

 

[Raskolnikov]

It depends entirely on the character of the fan. My buddies who are the non-obnoxious Cubs fans, I sent a text along the lines of "man, that sucks" when Schwarber went down. But the trolly, douchy Cubs fans I know? The texts were something like "maybe if Schwarber knew how to play OF that would've happened what a fucking idiot."

I think the vast majority of Sox fans and Cubs fans are decent folk. But the small portion who ruin it deserve to be trolled at every turn, and a season-ending injury to a young, exciting talent is perfect fodder for the cannon.

Yeah, I guess my clarification was cuz it's not about Kyle. You never want to win due to injury.

I just don't think Cubs fans are putting some blame on coaching for this accident and I think they should consider it.

What decisions they make will show us the guilt they may have and how they see this thing.

Baseball lost a young hero for a year. It sucks. I blame Maddon and staff for not seeing this possibility, I never want to see Schwarber running that fast toward a wall again, what happened was freak but just watch what happens if you keep getting that freight train going at air rail speeds.

 

[Bear Pride]

Quoted for the mother fucking truth.

Nah, I think argument is dumb, myself. Criminals will always target the nicer areas. Is this supposed to make Sox fans think the Cell is a nicer area than Wrigley? Whatever. I think it's dumb coming from both sides.

 

[DMelt36]

Nah, I think argument is dumb, myself. Criminals will always target the nicer areas. Is this supposed to make Sox fans think the Cell is a nicer area than Wrigley? Whatever. I think it's dumb coming from both sides.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Nah, I think argument is dumb, myself. Criminals will always target the nicer areas. Is this supposed to make Sox fans think the Cell is a nicer area than Wrigley? Whatever. I think it's dumb coming from both sides.

I don't think anyone would look at those statistics and think one area is 'nicer' than the other. I do however think the statistics dispel a widely held belief about the area surrounding the Cell.

 

[Bear Pride]

I don't think anyone would look at those statistics and think one area is 'nicer' than the other. I do however think the statistics dispel a widely held belief about the area surrounding the Cell.

I guess you missed the point. Like I said, it's dumb for Cubs fans to say the latter about the Cell, and it's dumb for Sox fans to post the former. As far as being nicer.... let's say someone visits Chicago for the 1st time, and is impartial to either the Sox or the Cubs, but they want to go to a Baseball game, where exactly do you think they'll want to go? To the Cell, or to Wrigley? Say no more.

 

[brett05]

I guess you missed the point. Like I said, it's dumb for Cubs fans to say the latter about the Cell, and it's dumb for Sox fans to post the former. As far as being nicer.... let's say someone visits Chicago for the 1st time, and is impartial to either the Sox or the Cubs, but they want to go to a Baseball game, where exactly do you think they'll want to go? To the Cell, or to Wrigley? Say no more.

Impartial? White Sox. Better stadium better food. But there are very, very few impartials.

 

[Bear Pride]

Impartial? White Sox. Better stadium better food. But there are very, very few impartials.

Well, I think most people would want to go to Wrigley, imo. By the time the Cubs are done with their total renovation, Wrigley will be one of the biggest attractions to people visiting Chicago. I highly doubt people will be going to the Cell with the intention of eating better. LOL.

 

[brett05]

Well, I think most people would want to go to Wrigley, imo. By the time the Cubs are done with their total renovation, Wrigley will be one of the biggest attractions to people visiting Chicago. I highly doubt people will be going to the Cell with the intention of eating better. LOL.

Are the Cubs changing the seats to point toward the diamond? If not, no, a baseball fan is not going to choose Wrigley Field. Many of the changes the Cubs are making are for players and safety of the fans. Wrigley has a long way to go to catchup to the Cell.

That said, from a historic standpoint, Wrigley is a must see.

 

[Bear Pride]

Are the Cubs changing the seats to point toward the diamond? If not, no, a baseball fan is not going to choose Wrigley Field. Many of the changes the Cubs are making are for players and safety of the fans. Wrigley has a long way to go to catchup to the Cell.

That said, from a historic standpoint, Wrigley is a must see.

With all due respect Brett, I don't care to go on with these silly debates. It seems just another thing for Sox fans to go on about the Cubs, just as some Cubs fans bring up the crime stuff. But as far as attendance, it seems your argument is a little bias. Sometimes, the proof is in the pudding. Do they serve pudding at the Cell?

2015 Attendance	Home	Road	Overall
RK	TEAM	GMS	TOTAL	AVG	PCT	GMS	AVG	PCT	GMS	AVG	PCT
1	LA Dodgers	81	3,764,815	46,479	83.0	81	34,525	78.6	162	40,502	81.1
2	St. Louis	81	3,520,889	43,467	98.8	80	31,317	73.3	161	37,430	86.4
3	San Francisco	81	3,375,882	41,677	99.4	81	34,121	74.9	162	37,899	86.6
4	NY Yankees	80	3,193,795	39,922	80.4	81	31,322	74.8	161	35,595	77.8
5	LA Angels	81	3,012,765	37,194	81.9	81	28,958	66.5	162	33,076	74.4
6	Chicago Cubs	81	2,959,812	36,540	88.8	80	34,422	80.1	161	35,488	84.4
7	Boston	81	2,880,694	35,564	94.8	81	32,263	73.8	162	33,913	83.5
8	Toronto	81	2,794,891	34,504	70.0	79	27,762	65.8	160	31,175	68.1
9	Detroit	81	2,726,048	33,654	81.6	79	29,719	71.3	160	31,711	76.5
10	Kansas City	81	2,708,549	33,438	88.2	81	27,681	65.4	162	30,560	76.2
11	Washington	81	2,619,843	32,343	77.9	80	30,230	69.6	161	31,293	73.7
12	NY Mets	81	2,569,753	31,725	75.9	81	30,693	69.8	162	31,209	72.8
13	Milwaukee	81	2,542,558	31,389	74.9	81	31,634	73.6	162	31,511	74.2
14	Colorado	80	2,506,789	31,334	62.1	81	30,962	69.3	161	31,147	65.5
15	Pittsburgh	81	2,498,596	30,846	80.4	81	33,049	76.5	162	31,947	78.3
16	Texas	81	2,491,875	30,763	62.6	81	29,073	67.8	162	29,918	65.0
17	San Diego	81	2,459,752	30,367	71.1	81	31,721	69.0	162	31,044	70.0
18	Cincinnati	81	2,419,506	29,870	70.6	80	32,075	74.5	161	30,965	72.5
19	Baltimore	79	2,320,590	29,374	65.3	81	28,714	68.3	160	29,040	66.8
20	Minnesota	81	2,220,054	27,408	69.4	80	29,306	69.8	161	28,351	69.6
21	Seattle	81	2,193,581	27,081	56.6	81	29,052	67.7	162	28,066	61.8
22	Houston	81	2,153,585	26,587	64.9	81	28,121	64.6	162	27,354	64.7
23	Arizona	81	2,080,145	25,680	52.8	80	32,654	72.4	161	29,146	62.2
24	Atlanta	80	2,001,392	25,017	50.3	81	29,699	69.4	161	27,373	59.2
25	Philadelphia	78	1,831,080	23,475	53.8	81	30,906	70.4	159	27,260	62.3
26	Chicago White Sox	80	1,755,810	21,947	54.0	80	29,030	69.4	160	25,489	61.9
27	Oakland	81	1,768,175	21,829	62.3	81	29,526	66.8	162	25,677	64.8
28	Miami	81	1,752,235	21,632	57.8	80	29,215	66.2	161	25,400	62.3
29	Cleveland	78	1,388,905	17,806	41.0	81	29,150	70.4	159	23,585	55.6
30	Tampa Bay	81	1,247,668	15,403	45.2	81	28,189	65.1	162	21,796	56.3

 

[Parade_Rain]

I don't think anyone would look at those statistics and think one area is 'nicer' than the other. I do however think the statistics dispel a widely held belief about the area surrounding the Cell.

The area around the Cell is a frigging parking lot. How much crime is going to occur in a parking lot?

 

[brett05]

With all due respect Brett, I don't care to go on with these silly debates. It seems just another thing for Sox fans to go on about the Cubs, just as some Cubs fans bring up the crime stuff. But as far as attendance, it seems your argument is a little bias. Sometimes, the proof is in the pudding. Do they serve pudding at the Cell?

Dude, you brought it up, not me.

Yeah, we don't have the fan base that the Cubs do. Not even remotely close. Your fan base is 10X ours. But the numbers do not fit the hypothetical that you proposed and I provided evidence on why one would choose the Cell over Wrigley. One game only? Wrigley Field for history. Three games? One at Wrigley and the next two at the Cell. It's just a better park. You should go and verify that for yourself.

 

[Raskolnikov]

I'm sorry I went near Kyle. I think most Sox fans here took the high road and didn't use the opportunity in that painful of a moment.

I went nuts the day Rose and Kane both went down.

Like with Kane, I hope some silver lining emerges and this is part of a more positive path for the Cubs and Kyle leading down the road.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Nobody would deny that the Cubs have more fans, but let's also admit that a decent number - being fair I'll say 8% of most Cub home game game attendance is there for the Wrigley atmosphere and not the Cubs games. Especially during the weekend.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Full Disclosure: I'm not a fan of either team.