Cubs Off-season in Review

[Rice Cube]

The compensation picks from Aramis Ramirez and Carlos Pena leaving will help more than the actual players will in the long run.

 

[waldo7239117]

The compensation picks from Aramis Ramirez and Carlos Pena leaving will help more than the actual players will in the long run.

If the Cubs do in fact chose good, but yeah.

 

[daddies3angels]

The compensation picks from Aramis Ramirez and Carlos Pena leaving will help more than the actual players will in the long run.

Thats where i just laugh at you guys so hard. The chances of those picks working out is about 15%. The chances of them being even close to what A-Ram and Pena were is about 5%.

 

[Rice Cube]

Thats where i just laugh at you guys so hard. The chances of those picks working out is about 15%. The chances of them being even close to what A-Ram and Pena were is about 5%.

You also figure that these guys can be currency to acquire the next Aramis Ramirez (like the Cubs did in 2003) and that they'd cost less, not to mention that Ramirez and Pena are getting older and will probably decline by the time those draft picks come up to MLB, if at all. It's all about context. Ramirez and Pena won't be in All-Star form forever.

 

[daddies3angels]

You also figure that these guys can be currency to acquire the next Aramis Ramirez (like the Cubs did in 2003) and that they'd cost less, not to mention that Ramirez and Pena are getting older and will probably decline by the time those draft picks come up to MLB, if at all. It's all about context. Ramirez and Pena won't be in All-Star form forever.

Thats where i agree with you. Yes of course in 4-5 years those guys prolly more valuable but right now its not even a contest. Pena lost didnt bother me.. Losing A-ram i didnt like as you guys know lol

 

[FirstTimer]

LOL at dangels throwing around "facts" about the Cubs being cheap.

I've already swatted this BS down before.

Please stop.

Thanks.

 

[dabynsky]

If you look back to those years and after really none of those specs turned into anything. Doesnt names like, Pie, Prior, Patterson, stand out to you? Wood was spec in 1998 season. Z was spec before 2000, Marshall, Marmol, Soto were in mid to lat 2000's when there ratings started to go down. A-Ram and Lee were gotten by the farm but all of those specs sucked. Not one of them made a difference in MLB. So again the best farm in the early 2000's got what for the Cubs? 1 playoff apperance while spending money got Cubs 2 playoff apperances. You guys are just so hyped up about Jackson, Rizzo, etc but theres a GREAT chance they dont make a difference in MLB.

Also now that I have more time to actuallty look up those guys I thought it might interest you to know that:

• Carlos Zambrano didn't make his major league debut until August, 2001 so he certainly was part of the the farm system in 2001
• Sean Marshall was drafted in 2003
• Geovany Soto was drafted in 2001
• Carlos Marmol was signed as an amateur in 1999

So the four guys you specifically mentioned were in the farm system for at least part of the years you specifically chose to prove your point.

 

[Rice Cube]

Also now that I have more time to actuallty look up those guys I thought it might interest you to know that:

• Carlos Zambrano didn't make his major league debut until August, 2001 so he certainly was part of the the farm system in 2001
• Sean Marshall was drafted in 2003
• Geovany Soto was drafted in 2001
• Carlos Marmol was signed as an amateur in 1999

So the four guys you specifically mentioned were in the farm system for at least part of the years you specifically chose to prove your point.

This assumes that he had a point to begin with.

 

[dabynsky]

This assumes that he had a point to begin with.

Oh come on now, we might not agree with it, but he is right that a majority of prospects fail. We come to different conclusions based on that fact (most of us see that as the reason to acquire more prospects to increase your odds of developing homegrown talent which has been essential in championship teams for decades as opposed to D3A's conclusion that means one should go out and pay for talent).

 

[Rice Cube]

Oh come on now, we might not agree with it, but he is right that a majority of prospects fail. We come to different conclusions based on that fact (most of us see that as the reason to acquire more prospects to increase your odds of developing homegrown talent which has been essential in championship teams for decades as opposed to D3A's conclusion that means one should go out and pay for talent).

Of course. Ergo, troll-face. :woot:

 

[dabynsky]

Of course. Ergo, troll-face. :woot: