cubs signed draft picks (2013)

[CSF77]

After seeing Appel and Gray both underslot, I am not shocked at all that they are going to try to get Bryant to sign as cheap as possible.

I wouldn't be jumping up and down over the Ricketts saving a buck. That is the main problem with the Cubs. The Rickett's are not willing to invest into a winner. So what is left investing into the farm. So them pinching up a few mil not to spend on the answer? Great showing. Really makes players want to come into the cheap situation. Makes it harder for players retention as again they are playing the cheap card.

They should do the right thing and pay the slot value. He earned it.

 

[patg006]

I wouldn't be jumping up and down over the Ricketts saving a buck. That is the main problem with the Cubs. The Rickett's are not willing to invest into a winner. So what is left investing into the farm. So them pinching up a few mil not to spend on the answer? Great showing. Really makes players want to come into the cheap situation. Makes it harder for players retention as again they are playing the cheap card.

They should do the right thing and pay the slot value. He earned it.

Pay the kid. End this charade......dont dick around with Boras, and postpone the mansion dinner dates for a god damn week or two. Dont bring this to the wire.....

 

[KBisBack!]

I wouldn't be jumping up and down over the Ricketts saving a buck. That is the main problem with the Cubs.

Exactly.

Many Cub fans seem to be happier that Ricketts is saving money than they are about the Cubs winning games.

With that mindset, there is no reason that Ricketts should have to invest in a winning ball club if people are dumb enough to be happy about him saving money.

 

[Rice Cube]

I wouldn't be jumping up and down over the Ricketts saving a buck. That is the main problem with the Cubs. The Rickett's are not willing to invest into a winner. So what is left investing into the farm. So them pinching up a few mil not to spend on the answer? Great showing. Really makes players want to come into the cheap situation. Makes it harder for players retention as again they are playing the cheap card.

They should do the right thing and pay the slot value. He earned it.

Pay the kid. End this charade......dont dick around with Boras, and postpone the mansion dinner dates for a god damn week or two. Dont bring this to the wire.....

Exactly.

Many Cub fans seem to be happier that Ricketts is saving money than they are about the Cubs winning games.

With that mindset, there is no reason that Ricketts should have to invest in a winning ball club if people are dumb enough to be happy about him saving money.

This is out of context.

The problem with the new CBA (thanks Reinsdorf!) is that the pools are hard-locked in, and anything over 5%, as you all probably know, means the Cubs will lose future first round picks and the pool of money associated with those picks. Signing Bryant for cheaper is an advantage to the business given this new, stupid system because it 1. allows the player to be retained by the drafting organization and 2. allows money to be reallocated such that it can be used to sign other desirable players. Bryant is still going to get paid more than most of us will save for retirement in our lifetimes, so no real tears shed for that kid. If you want to argue that the draft should be abolished and a truly free market should be implemented, that's a different story. This isn't a case of #RickettsCheap; it's a matter of playing the system to ensure everyone signs so you can keep that $6.7MM chunk of change, or in this case, the difference between the $6.7MM and whatever Bryant eventually signs for such that everyone in the first ten rounds plus possible overslots in the later rounds can become future Cubs.

 

[patg006]

This is out of context.

The problem with the new CBA (thanks Reinsdorf!) is that the pools are hard-locked in, and anything over 5%, as you all probably know, means the Cubs will lose future first round picks and the pool of money associated with those picks. Signing Bryant for cheaper is an advantage to the business given this new, stupid system because it 1. allows the player to be retained by the drafting organization and 2. allows money to be reallocated such that it can be used to sign other desirable players. Bryant is still going to get paid more than most of us will save for retirement in our lifetimes, so no real tears shed for that kid. If you want to argue that the draft should be abolished and a truly free market should be implemented, that's a different story. This isn't a case of #RickettsCheap; it's a matter of playing the system to ensure everyone signs so you can keep that $6.7MM chunk of change, or in this case, the difference between the $6.7MM and whatever Bryant eventually signs for such that everyone in the first ten rounds plus possible overslots in the later rounds can become future Cubs.

It isnt out of context.

I know how the new CBA draft slot works, however, every sign points to this kid Kris Bryant holding out for the most. If he is to sign under slot, he would by a hair as indicated by an article I provided earlier in the thread. Obviously the cubs will try to spend as little as possible to save for the other 2-10 round picks. And thats the point. Some players wont want to be underslotted, and for a second during draft day; some of us were surprised as **** to find out the cubs didnt pick Gray to pay him less.

All I'm suggesting is that the cubs sign him sooner than later. I have not read any reports saying talks between Boras/Bryant and McThoyer have started. I've seen insinuations of prices, suggestions, and 'what ifs;' but not the headline "Bryant and Cubs talking deal" or something like that. Thats what I want to see. Everyone wants to see this kid hit the minor leagues.

Does giving Bryant more mean less to spend on others? Duh. Then the brass has to prioritize. I want Bryant, Masek, Skulina, Zastryzny, and Hanneman to be signed. If we cant sign any of the top 10 after them because we overslotted, I can live with that. Those 5 lottery tickets are the best bets.

But dicking around, not engaging Boras about Kris Bryant cant go on forever; or until somebody feels "comfortable to talk." I understand there is a month left--but if this Bryant kid is so good--why wasnt he signed ASAP? The further the cubs dick around with this, the harder they make it on themselves.

 

[Rice Cube]

I am under the impression that with both Appel and Bryant as Boras clients, and with Appel signing for way under slot, that there's no way Boras pisses off his higher-profile client by letting Bryant make more. The kid is gonna sign, and in the meantime the Cubs are more than capable of walking and chewing gum. Now, if nobody signs, then I guess you can say "I told you so."

 

[patg006]

I am under the impression that with both Appel and Bryant as Boras clients, and with Appel signing for way under slot, that there's no way Boras pisses off his higher-profile client by letting Bryant make more. The kid is gonna sign, and in the meantime the Cubs are more than capable of walking and chewing gum. Now, if nobody signs, then I guess you can say "I told you so."

I am under the impression that as a Boras client, Bryant, wants money, and he has an out this year if he doesnt get what he likes. And unlike Appel--who cant opt to go back to college like last year when the Pirates didnt give him what he wanted. He didnt get busted with Adderol, or any other performance enhancers, he was the best hitter in college baseball, won awards, and is a high profile sign.

I want him to sign. I want it to be sooner, rather than later. But right now, the cubs have given no indication of urgency to make an attempt, and when seeing every other team sign their guys (Yankees just did Jags and that pitcher who hates tehm, Clarkin) it is becoming increasingly frustrating to hear bullshit about the future and how it will be sustained success; yet no attempt to sign pieces to the future have been made.

 

[Rice Cube]

The Astros at #1 have a slot of $7.79MM. Let's for the sake of argument round that up to $8MM. Now let's also say that Kris Bryant knows that the Cubs won't go any higher than Appel's rumored bonus of $6.35MM. So you're telling me that a guy who wasn't in the top five to start the calendar year is going to hold out for an extra $1.65MM or go back to school where he can get injured or suck, and actually lose money when he re-enters the draft next year, because...???...profit?

Whereas Appel's case is different. He would've been massively lowballed by the Pirates last year and actually doubled his money. There's no way Bryant doubles his payday if he goes back to school. It's not 100% guarantee because weird shit happens sometimes, but I'd be incredibly surprised if Kris Bryant doesn't sign by the deadline :lol: Chances are he does it well before that. And while nobody's reported anything it's not like the Cubs have to tell you every little thing, even though I admit that sure would be nice.

 

[patg006]

The Astros at #1 have a slot of $7.79MM. Let's for the sake of argument round that up to $8MM. Now let's also say that Kris Bryant knows that the Cubs won't go any higher than Appel's rumored bonus of $6.35MM. So you're telling me that a guy who wasn't in the top five to start the calendar year is going to hold out for an extra $1.65MM or go back to school where he can get injured or suck, and actually lose money when he re-enters the draft next year, because...???...profit?

Whereas Appel's case is different. He would've been massively lowballed by the Pirates last year and actually doubled his money. There's no way Bryant doubles his payday if he goes back to school. It's not 100% guarantee because weird shit happens sometimes, but I'd be incredibly surprised if Kris Bryant doesn't sign by the deadline :lol: Chances are he does it well before that. And while nobody's reported anything it's not like the Cubs have to tell you every little thing, even though I admit that sure would be nice.

Then whats taking so god damn long to sign this kid?

 

[Willrust]

Then whats taking so god damn long to sign this kid?

1. The fact that Appel's deal isn't finished yet. Some reports have it at nearly 1M below slot, but the thing still hasn't been signed yet.

2. The fact that the agent for Kris Bryant is also working on the deal for Appel. It appears that Boras is trying to get Appel's deal out of the way before discussing Bryant's. The 'Stros control Appel until June 2014, so why negotiate his deal first? Could have to do with an Appel callup prior to the end of the MLB season? More than likely it is about leveraging the Bryant deal. Until the Appel deal is signed, don't believe everything you are reading about a well underslot deal (unless there is a wink and a handshake regarding an early start to Appel's arbitration clock via 2013 callup).

3. There is no urgency from Bryant's camp to sign anything until damn near or at the deadline.

 

[CSF77]

Cubs Sign Fourth-Rounder Tyler Skulina
By Charlie Wilmoth [June 16 at 8:50pm CST]
The Cubs have signed fourth-round draft pick Tyler Skulina for $800K, Jim Callis of Baseball America tweets. The draft pool value of Skulina's pick, No. 108 overall, is $477K, so Skulina's bonus is significantly over slot. Baseball America ranked Skulina the No. 73 prospect in the draft.

Callis writes that Skulina, a junior righty from Kent State, has "frontline stuff," with a 91-96 MPH fastball and an 81-84 MPH slider, although his command needs work. MLB.com notes that Skulina uses his height (he's 6'5" and 235 pounds) to throw with a downhill plane that complements his fastball and breaking ball, but says he will have to work on his changeup.

 

[patg006]

Cubs Sign Fourth-Rounder Tyler Skulina
By Charlie Wilmoth [June 16 at 8:50pm CST]
The Cubs have signed fourth-round draft pick Tyler Skulina for $800K, Jim Callis of Baseball America tweets. The draft pool value of Skulina's pick, No. 108 overall, is $477K, so Skulina's bonus is significantly over slot. Baseball America ranked Skulina the No. 73 prospect in the draft.

Callis writes that Skulina, a junior righty from Kent State, has "frontline stuff," with a 91-96 MPH fastball and an 81-84 MPH slider, although his command needs work. MLB.com notes that Skulina uses his height (he's 6'5" and 235 pounds) to throw with a downhill plane that complements his fastball and breaking ball, but says he will have to work on his changeup.

Fan-fuckin-tastic

I believe Hanneman will be underslotted, with Masek being over, and Zastrysyny equal and Bryant over.....

 

[Chris J]

Zastrysyny just tweeted that he is signed. No numbers released

 

[KBisBack!]

The 'Stros control Appel until June 2014

No they don't.

The deadline is sometime in mid July now. It hasn't been a full year for several seasons now.

 

[dabynsky]

No they don't.

The deadline is sometime in mid July now. It hasn't been a full year for several seasons now.

That rule doesn't apply to college seniors.

 

[KBisBack!]

That rule doesn't apply to college seniors.

Glad I could provide the highlight to your year.

 

[patg006]

Zastrysyny just tweeted that he is signed. No numbers released

A source has confirmed that the Chicago Cubs have officially signed left-hander Rob Zastryzny to a contract after selecting him in the second round (41st overall) in this year's draft. Zastryzny will receive a bonus of $1.1 million, which is $261,900 less than the assigned slot value for the 41st selection, $1,361,900.

http://www.mlbdailydish.com/2013/6/17/4439938/draft-signings-rob-zastryzny-jonah-heim

 

[dabynsky]

Glad I could provide the highlight to your year.

Nah the highlight was when you continued to argue with me about the very point I was making...

 

[Willrust]

Trey Masek just signed. No word yet on $, but expect overslot considering he was 2nd round talent drafted in the 5th due to injury concerns.

http://www.bleachernation.com/2013/06/18/chicago-cubs-sign-5th-round-draft-pick-trey-masek/

 

[chibears55]

Some of these signings have leaked out before, but now they are official. The Cubs have announced that they've signed eight players from the June Amateur Draft, highlighted by second round pick, LHP Rob Zastryzny out of Missouri.

You may have heard of the Cubs signing other players, such as fourth round pick Tyler Skulina, but in these cases, what has actually happened is that the Cubs and the player have "come to terms," which means, essentially, they've agreed on a bonus amount but the player still needs to take his physical, sign all the paperwork and the Cubs have to send it to MLB to get approved. Normally this is just a formality, but occasionally something goes wrong in the physical and you get a situation like Barret Loux or, going back even further, an R.A. Dickey. Fortunately, this is rare.

The signings are as follows.

2nd Round: LHP Rob Zastryzny, Missouri. Zastryzny is a left-hander whose main weapon is a fastball that he can dial up or back on, leading to it being clocked at a pretty wide range of 86 to 95 mph. He also has a promising change-up. Zastryzny reportedly signed for $1.1 million, which is $261,900 below slot for that draft position.

Pro tip: Zastryzny is not nearly as hard to spell if you break it up into three, three-letter syllables. Zas-try-zny.

10th Round RHP Zachary Godley, Tennessee. A senior signing, Godley signed for $35,000, which is $104,000 under slot. Despite that, he was the #1 starter this past season for an SEC team and he was ranked #487 in Baseball America's Top 500 draft prospects. He's a workhorse who threw 88-90 mph as a starting pitcher, but can hit 95 as a reliever and the Cubs will most likely move him to the bullpen because of that.

He'll obviously be a fan favorite for the Smokies if and when he makes it to Double-A.

14th Round C Cael Brockmeyer, Cal State-Bakersfield. Brockmeyer hit .333/.419/.484 for CSU-Bakersfield this past season, so it seems like he has the kind of plate discipline and power that the new regime is looking for in Cubs draftees. At 6'5", 220 pounds, staying behind the plate is going to be a challenge, although the Cubs are likely to let him try and stick there.

18th Round SS Giuseppe Papaccio, Seton Hall. Papaccio is another senior draftee. His senior year for Seton Hall, he hit .365 and led the Big East in doubles. He was named a third-team All-America selection and a first-team All-Big East.

20th Round 2B Zak Blair, Mercyhurst College (PA). Blair is a redshirt senior, so he's already 23 years old. But he did well in the Cape Cod League in 2012, hitting .338 and walking more than he struck out. Cubs Den has an interview with Blair here.

22nd Round LF Kevin Brown, Bryant University (RI). Another senior signing, Brown led Bryant in all three triple-slash stats--.367/.498/.552.

23rd Round LHP Tyler Ihrig, Marin CC (CA). Ihrig is from Monroe, WA. He was the closer for Marin this past season with a 1.58 ERA and 18 saves. He struck out more than a batter an inning.

30th Round RHP Zak Hermans, Princeton. Again, the seniors sign quickly, and Hermans is a senior signing out of Princeton. He was Ivy League Pitcher of the Year in 2012 and this article in the Trentonian describes him as a "hard thrower who likes to challenge hitters."


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