Derek Carr

[run and shoot]

Uhh, yes he is. His record is 29-21. That's a quarterback that has a winning record.

Ok.....so the next level of winning is post season.

 

[Wild_x_Card]

I don’t know how much more factual watching him play is. Derek Carr is not worth trading for. Period

name calling only makes you look childish

It wasn't name calling. Comparing you to another poster. There's a reason I didn't quote you to begin with. You've proven you know fuck all but speak in absolutes.

 

[Wild_x_Card]

So I wanna start by saying great job on your info surrounding Carr's situation.

In 2016 the Raiders were (12-4-0) and eliminated in the first round, ( Carr has led the Raiders to the postseason once before, in 2016, when he broke his leg late in the season and was unable to suit up for the wild card loss to Houston. )

Ok.....so a few things. 1) At what point does a team say we just aren't winning with you at Qb?

2) Why won't Gruden stick with Carr? Why is he open to trading Carr?

3) Carr's injury profile is below. I'm sure you'll agree .....it's something to consider if a new team wants him.






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Nobody knows if Gruden is actually willing to part with him. It's the lying season. Speculation runs rampid. But I'd venture an educated guess and say he'd be willing to deal him if he could land Watson. Clear upgrade. One is fringe 10 ten and the other is top 5.

You can't win if you can't stop the other team. Doesn't matter how good the QB is. See Watson this past season. The raiders averaged 4 TDs a game last year. FOUR and still couldn't win down the stretch because their defense leaked like a siv. That's not on the QB. Never has been and never will be.

As for his injury. It's always something to look at with any player but he's only missed two regular season games and 1 post season throughout his career.

He out played Mahomes last year in their first meeting. That doesn't mean he's better but what it points to is that he can out play the opposing QB on any given Sunday. Which is what you'd expect from a fringe to 10 guy. For the record I'm not even advocating the bears should get him. But I won't be disappointed if they do.

 

[run and shoot]

So I wanna start by saying great job on your info surrounding Carr's situation.

In 2016 the Raiders were (12-4-0) and eliminated in the first round, ( Carr has led the Raiders to the postseason once before, in 2016, when he broke his leg late in the season and was unable to suit up for the wild card loss to Houston. )

Ok.....so a few things. 1) At what point does a team say we just aren't winning with you at Qb?

2) Why won't Gruden stick with Carr? Why is he open to trading Carr?

3) Carr's injury profile is below. I'm sure you'll agree .....it's something to consider if a new team wants him.

Nobody knows if Gruden is actually willing to part with him. It's the lying season. Speculation runs rampid. But I'd venture an educated guess and say he'd be willing to deal him if he could land Watson. Clear upgrade. One is fringe 10 ten and the other is top 5.

You can't win if you can't stop the other team. Doesn't matter how good the QB is. See Watson this past season. The raiders averaged 4 TDs a game last year. FOUR and still couldn't win down the stretch because their defense leaked like a siv. That's not on the QB. Never has been and never will be.

As for his injury. It's always something to look at with any player but he's only missed two regular season games and 1 post season throughout his career.

He out played Mahomes last year in their first meeting. That doesn't mean he's better but what it points to is that he can out play the opposing QB on any given Sunday. Which is what you'd expect from a fringe to 10 guy. For the record I'm not even advocating the bears should get him. But I won't be disappointed if they do.

Appreciate the breakdown.

So key points. Yeah its the 1) "lying season".

2) "See Watson this past season. The raiders averaged 4 TDs a game last year. FOUR and still couldn't win down the stretch because their defense leaked like a siv. That's not on the QB. Never has been and never will be."


True on Watson. But keep in mind, the has been a winner.

So back to that question......At what point does a team say we just aren't winning with you at Qb?

For the record I'm not even advocating the bears

thanks for that clarification

 

[Wild_x_Card]

Appreciate the breakdown.

So key points. Yeah its the 1) "lying season".

2) "See Watson this past season. The raiders averaged 4 TDs a game last year. FOUR and still couldn't win down the stretch because their defense leaked like a siv. That's not on the QB. Never has been and never will be."


True on Watson. But keep in mind, the has been a winner.

So back to that question......At what point does a team say we just aren't winning with you at Qb?




thanks for that clarification

A logical team says that when their QB is costing thier team wins. Has a propensity for costly turnovers and can't score with any consistency.

 

[truthbedamned]

Raiders are a degenerate franchise

I can't wait to hear the explanation for this idiotic statement.

 

[mecha]

I can't wait to hear the explanation for this idiotic statement.

yeah, truly idiotic. that there TRUTH BE DAMNED!!!11

 

[truthbedamned]

yeah, truly idiotic. that there TRUTH BE DAMNED!!!11

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So how does their record make them a DEGENERATE franchise? They have child molesters or rapists or something on their team?

 

[sevvy]

I can't wait to hear the explanation for this idiotic statement.

Any questions?

 

[truthbedamned]

Any questions?

I love how people that know exactly nothing about a franchise pretend they are experts.

 

[HeHateMe]

I love how people that know exactly nothing about a franchise pretend they are experts.

You would let those two guys babysit your kids?

 

[sevvy]

I love how people that know exactly nothing about a franchise pretend they are experts.

As a response to this, please zoom into Mark Davis' face and stare at it in silence for 5 minutes. Thank you in advance.

 

[truthbedamned]

You would let those two guys babysit your kids?

What does babysitting have to do with running a football empire? They sure as fuck do a better job than the jabronies that own the Bears.

And if they are "degenerates" as claimed please provide the link.

 

[HeHateMe]

What does babysitting have to do with running a football empire? They sure as fuck do a better job than the jabronies that own the Bears.

And if they are "degenerates" as claimed please provide the link.

Please calm down sir.

 

[truthbedamned]

Please calm down sir.

Be warned.....I am getting bitter as fuck about this.

Plus...I can't smoke pot for a while......consider yourself warned.

 

[Wild_x_Card]

Before they drafted Carr they had 11 consecutive losing seasons. Lol

 

[HeHateMe]

Be warned.....I am getting bitter as fuck about this.

Plus...I can't smoke pot for a while......consider yourself warned.

Let's try not to talk about weed anymore today lol.

 

[truthbedamned]

Before they drafted Carr they had 11 consecutive losing seasons. Lol

Why don't you quote their playoff and SB records since 1967. This isn't the fucking Lions you are talking about.

 

[run and shoot]

At 43-64 he's certainly not winner.

So I wanna start by saying great job on your info surrounding Carr's situation.

In 2016 the Raiders were (12-4-0) and eliminated in the first round, ( Carr has led the Raiders to the postseason once before, in 2016, when he broke his leg late in the season and was unable to suit up for the wild card loss to Houston. )

Ok.....so a few things. 1) At what point does a team say we just aren't winning with you at Qb?

2) Why won't Gruden stick with Carr? Why is he open to trading Carr?

3) Carr's injury profile is below. I'm sure you'll agree .....it's something to consider if a new team wants him.






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Any questions?

With all that money.....I don't get it

 

[run and shoot]

A logical team says that when their QB is costing thier team wins. Has a propensity for costly turnovers and can't score with any consistency.

Good analysis. I'm gonna hang on to this. It reminds me of Qb who use to play here. I'll stop there??