Desperate pick from a desperate GM..

[mattb78]

Warren should have fired Poles last year and now we have a 15-36 GM trying to get above .500 next season to save his job . It will be 4 drafts for Poles with no pass rushers selected at premium spots.

And yesterday we took another non-premium position in an early draft slot. Brock Bowers was a much better prospect than anyone in this years class and even he didn't go until #13.

Yes Loveland helps the coach and scheme, but he is a complete low ceiling player with below average athleticism score for a top 10 pick. How many targets is he really going to get with Moore and Odunze out there, two other guys we paid alot to acquire?

 

[1COBearsfan]

Yes Loveland helps the coach and scheme

This is all anyone needs to see and/or hear. If the person who is going to be coaching the team says he needs player X and that he is super ultra mega important , then the GM’s job is to get player X. That’s what he needs to do to save his job. This seems like Professional Sports 101 to me

 

[Szlachcic]

but he is a complete low ceiling player with below average athleticism score for a top 10 pick.

Where did you got the information from? LOL

There are lots of opinions, but for me, I have no problem with this pick largely because this one was clearly B. Johnson pick, and he is the one that 'cook'..

 

[Discus fish salesman]

Tell me more about this athleticism score!

 

[discplayer]

Warren should have fired Poles last year and now we have a 15-36 GM trying to get above .500 next season to save his job . It will be 4 drafts for Poles with no pass rushers selected at premium spots.

And yesterday we took another non-premium position in an early draft slot. Brock Bowers was a much better prospect than anyone in this years class and even he didn't go until #13.

Yes Loveland helps the coach and scheme, but he is a complete low ceiling player with below average athleticism score for a top 10 pick. How many targets is he really going to get with Moore and Odunze out there, two other guys we paid alot to acquire?

"We paid alot" to acquire Odunze?

 

[ThatGuyRyan]

Tell me more about this athleticism score!

Probably not as high as Jimmy G's

 

[zabavka]

Ever since they hired Ben Johnson, Poles is walking around like he's the shit.

Really can't stand him.

 

[alswank87]

I see what Ben Johnson is doing. DJ Moore and Rome Odunze are pretty big WRs with speed, and we have two good pass catching TEs. We will be able to use size to our advantage.

 

[RiDLer80]

Poles did the same thing he did with Eberflus-give that coach what he asked for to succeed.

This isn't a desperate pick. It's a GM giving the HC the tools he asked for.

 

[Rise]

He has a high ceiling, if his shoulder allows him to raise his hands up to touch it. He is the ideal “Y” TE that every team wants, again, if he can lift his arms over his head come August.

 

[Leon Sandcastle]

Ever since they hired Ben Johnson, Poles is walking around like he's the shit.

Really can't stand him.

When? I guess I haven’t seen any of that. Poles has just been being Poles but he has learned not to take the idiot fans/media seriously. I give him credit for that

 

[gallagher]

"We paid alot" to acquire Odunze?

We didn't pay to acquire Moore either. The Panthers paid us for 1OA.

The OP also gets other items either incorrect, or they aren't completely thought through. For one, Brock Bowers had 5 QBs go in front of him. Shouldn't a weaker QB draft class then push the other talents up the list? On another item for the same point, last year's draft included a wealth of top WR talents, and this year's draft did not. So a talented receiving weapon of a TE will also naturally rise up the board this year as opposed to last year.

For a second point, I think that crediting only first round picks as premium picks is fishy. Why are 39 and 41 in this year's draft not premium picks? Was drafting Dexter with a second rounder, or trading a second rounder for Sweat, not using premium assets to acquire pass rushers? I'm on the other side of that argument.

Finally, look, crediting a dumpster fire year where the team was objectively cutting dead weight and tanking to the GM is tiresome. Even so, the math doesn't match. You can't go from 15-36 to above .500 in a single year. This is just loaded with assumptions I cannot get behind.

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

Didn’t need an essay to come to the conclusion that poles sucks at what he does

 

[Xplosive]

Warren should have fired Poles last year and now we have a 15-36 GM trying to get above .500 next season to save his job . It will be 4 drafts for Poles with no pass rushers selected at premium spots.

And yesterday we took another non-premium position in an early draft slot. Brock Bowers was a much better prospect than anyone in this years class and even he didn't go until #13.

Yes Loveland helps the coach and scheme, but he is a complete low ceiling player with below average athleticism score for a top 10 pick. How many targets is he really going to get with Moore and Odunze out there, two other guys we paid alot to acquire?

In the previous three drafts he's selected WR, OT, and QB all with premium picks. Your entire premise is biased and hyperbolic.

Ignoring free agent acquisitions as if only draft acquisitions matter is also biased. At the end of the day he has found about 3 quality players per draft which is pretty good.

Wins and losses are what matters now and if they win a good amount of games and Loveland is a major contributor, no one will care or remember where he was drafted.

 

[discplayer]

I see what Ben Johnson is doing. DJ Moore and Rome Odunze are pretty big WRs with speed, and we have two good pass catching TEs. We will be able to use size to our advantage.

DJ Moore is big?

 

[cameronkrazie86]

Didn’t need an essay to come to the conclusion that poles sucks at what he does

Looks like we need to bring back the banner - MANAGEMENT IS ALWAYS RIGHT!

 

[discplayer]

We didn't pay to acquire Moore either. The Panthers paid us for 1OA.

The OP also gets other items either incorrect, or they aren't completely thought through. For one, Brock Bowers had 5 QBs go in front of him. Shouldn't a weaker QB draft class then push the other talents up the list? On another item for the same point, last year's draft included a wealth of top WR talents, and this year's draft did not. So a talented receiving weapon of a TE will also naturally rise up the board this year as opposed to last year.

For a second point, I think that crediting only first round picks as premium picks is fishy. Why are 39 and 41 in this year's draft not premium picks? Was drafting Dexter with a second rounder, or trading a second rounder for Sweat, not using premium assets to acquire pass rushers? I'm on the other side of that argument.

Finally, look, crediting a dumpster fire year where the team was objectively cutting dead weight and tanking to the GM is tiresome. Even so, the math doesn't match. You can't go from 15-36 to above .500 in a single year. This is just loaded with assumptions I cannot get behind.

All well put

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Poles did the same thing he did with Eberflus-give that coach what he asked for to succeed.

This isn't a desperate pick. It's a GM giving the HC the tools he asked for.

How’d that work?

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

Looks like we need to bring back the banner - MANAGEMENT IS ALWAYS RIGHT!

I was going to wait for the safety and linebacker picks in second round to use that one

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

Poles did the same thing he did with Eberflus-give that coach what he asked for to succeed.

This isn't a desperate pick. It's a GM giving the HC the tools he asked for.

Eberflus told flus he doesn’t need an ol or dl?