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Gotta settle down Glide. It's just 1 dude's opinion. You can't keep getting so worked up over ever comment you see as a possible slight to the Bulls. There's doubters everywhere, even one's who root for the Bulls. Let them doubt. I'm confident in our Bulls & that keeps me happy. :)
 

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Please shut up about last season. Stop living in the past. What do you think because they lost last season, they will lose this season?

I didn't know they decided playoffs based on what happened the year before.

So ppg and %'s are the only stats you look at? This team is better than last year, if you can't see it then I don't know what to tell you.

What team are you going to root for? I mean seeing as the Bulls have no chance, why waste time waiting on the inevitable?

What is the difference between me calling a post of yours basketball Special person and you telling someone to shut up? The question is, did the team get better. In better, I am thinking people are looking at whether the team is good enough to win a title. Dude doesn't think so right now.

Give it a rest already! You are acting like an idiot for no reason. He can watch the team and be legitimately concerned about whether the team can succeed. That does NOT mean that he doesn't WANT the team the win. Wanting and believing are totally different.
 
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Please shut up about last season. Stop living in the past. What do you think because they lost last season, they will lose this season?

I didn't know they decided playoffs based on what happened the year before.

So ppg and %'s are the only stats you look at? This team is better than last year, if you can't see it then I don't know what to tell you.

What team are you going to root for? I mean seeing as the Bulls have no chance, why waste time waiting on the inevitable?

Are you even reading what I'm writing? I'm not saying we're gonna lose this year because we lost last year. I'm saying I THINK we're gonna lose this year because we still have some of the major problems we had last season.

I even brought it up in another thread... we're still a shitty FT team, just like last season and we still don't have someone who can consistently step up when Rose is off... just like last season.

Did I say the Bulls have no chance? I just don't think they'll win... That'c completely different than me saying we have no chance.

Also, I said we look the same as last season and was asking you how we got much better on offense. You're making it sound like I think the Bulls suck. I'm just saying that I haven't seen anything from this years team that makes me believe we're so much better that we're gonna win it all.

You tell Hou to stop putting words in your mouth [when he really didn't], and you're doing the same.
 
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I agree if the Bulls have no chance why waste time waiting on the inevitable BNB needs to

didn't we go over this yesterday? Holy shit...

Your new name is Dory. I'm pretty sure that was the name of the fish in Finding Nemo that had like a 2 second memory span.
 

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Let the haters doubt Glide it will only make the Bulls stronger.
 

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didn't we go over this yesterday? Holy shit...

Your new name is Dory. I'm pretty sure that was the name of the fish in Finding Nemo that had like a 2 second memory span.

Your new name is BitchGTFO
 

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Are you even reading what I'm writing? I'm not saying we're gonna lose this year because we lost last year. I'm saying I THINK we're gonna lose this year because we still have some of the major problems we had last season.
I think you're wrong.

I even brought it up in another thread. We're still a shitty FT team, just like last season and we still don't have someone who can consistently step up when Rose is off... just like last season.
It's called the WHOLE team steps up.

Did I say the Bulls have no chance? I just don't think they'll win. That's completely different than me saying we have no chance.
Actually it's kind of the same thing. If you don't think they will win, that basically means they have no chance.

Also, I said we look the same as last season and was asking you how we got much better on offense. You're making it sound like I think the Bulls suck. I'm just saying that I haven't seen anything from this years team that makes me believe we're so much better that we're gonna win it all.
Wow, okay. Then like I said, I don't know what to tell you.

You tell Hou to stop putting words in your mouth [when he really didn't], and you're doing the same.
Difference, Hou was trying to bait me, while I was simply disagreeing with you.
 

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What is the difference between me calling a post of yours basketball Special person and you telling someone to shut up?
The difference is, I said shut up about a specific thing. You just insulted me. I didn't insult him.

The question is, did the team get better. In better, I am thinking people are looking at whether the team is good enough to win a title. Dude doesn't think so right now.
That's fine. And I am disagreeing with him.

Give it a rest already! You are acting like an idiot for no reason. He can watch the team and be legitimately concerned about whether the team can succeed. That does NOT mean that he doesn't WANT the team the win. Wanting and believing are totally different.
That's the difference. I don't WANT them to win. I EXPECT them to win. I expect it because I know they can. And who are you, his keeper?

BNB is doing fine fighting his own battles.
 

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You're totally right on your first point. It has been down across the league. I'll back off those numbers.

But we still have the same problems we had last year. We go stretches every game where we can't do SHIT on offense and we need our defense to step up to bring our offense back in it. That'll help us beat Philly and either Boston or ATL.. but if our offense keeps disappearing like it has done this season and last against Miami again, I don't think we'll win.

And like I said to glide, yeah.. we played great without Rose. But we have looked terrible with him since he has been back. If that carries into the playoffs, we're fucked. We can't have Rose out of rhythm like that and expect to win. It's easier to get away with in the regular season when teams aren't going 100% or we're playing bad teams, but the playoffs are a different animal. Even when Rose was healthy earlier this season, we had similar problems as last season. Rose was doing too much and everyone else was doing too much standing around on offense. Rose's first game back against the Knicks this season after missing 3 weeks, it went right back to that shit after they played so well without him. If Rose is trying to do too much and put up 30 shots, we won't win.

We beat the Heat with Rose having the worst game of his professional career! We lost 1 game with him back in uniform & playing (and let's be honest we gave that game away). And learning how to play & score without Rose is not a detriment to the team. I completely disagree. Rose sitting has not only given him a better chance to study his teammate's respective games, but it's made him realize that he doesn't have to shoulder the entire load himself. His last 2 games he played, his scoring was way down but his assists were all up (20 combined shots, 15 assists, 2 turnovers) & the team looked perfectly fine against 2 playoff teams.

I'm not saying there aren't flaws with the team but this is NOT last year's team by any means.
 

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We beat the Heat with Rose having the worst game of his professional career! We lost 1 game with him back in uniform & playing (and let's be honest we gave that game away). And learning how to play & score without Rose is not a detriment to the team. I completely disagree. Rose sitting has not only given him a better chance to study his teammate's respective games, but it's made him realize that he doesn't have to shoulder the entire load himself. His last 2 games he played, his scoring was way down but his assists were all up (20 combined shots, 15 assists, 2 turnovers) & the team looked perfectly fine against 2 playoff teams.

I'm not saying there aren't flaws with the team but this is NOT last year's team by any means.
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Actually it's kind of the same thing. If you don't think they will win, that basically means they have no chance.

No it's not hahahahaahahah.So if I said I think the Bulls are gonna win, does that mean that there is a 100% chance they'll win? Seriously... just think of how dumb that sounds.

I don't think it's gonna rain next week... does that mean there's no chance it's gonna rain next week? no! So just because I don't think the Bulls are gonna win it all doesn't mean I think there's no chance they'll win. I do think there's a chance they can win. There's a chance any team can win.. some teams have less of a chance than others.

Difference, Hou was trying to bait me, while I was simply disagreeing with you.

what?! So you're putting words in my mouth because you're disagreeing with me.. and that's fine?

"What team are you going to root for? I mean seeing as the Bulls have no chance, why waste time waiting on the inevitable?"

So just because you disagree with me, you have to put words in my mouth and make it seem like I said the Bulls have NO CHANCE in winning? sigh.

Sorry I'm not like you and think the Bulls are going to win every single championship for as long as they exist. See, I can put words in your mouth too.
 

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No it's not hahahahaahahah.So if I said I think the Bulls are gonna win, does that mean that there is a 100% chance they'll win? Seriously... just think of how dumb that sounds.

I don't think it's gonna rain next week... does that mean there's no chance it's gonna rain next week? no! So just because I don't think the Bulls are gonna win it all doesn't mean I think there's no chance they'll win. I do think there's a chance they can win. There's a chance any team can win.. some teams have less of a chance than others.



what?! So you're putting words in my mouth because you're disagreeing with me.. and that's fine?

"What team are you going to root for? I mean seeing as the Bulls have no chance, why waste time waiting on the inevitable?"

So just because you disagree with me, you have to put words in my mouth and make it seem like I said the Bulls have NO CHANCE in winning? sigh.

Sorry I'm not like you and think the Bulls are going to win every single championship for as long as they exist. See, I can put words in your mouth too.
That's fair and you're right I shouldn't have said that. But I'm man enough to admit I was wrong.

I don't think they will win every championship ever. I think they will win THIS championship. Big difference.
 

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The difference is, I said shut up about a specific thing. You just insulted me. I didn't insult him.

That's fine. And I am disagreeing with him.

That's the difference. I don't WANT them to win. I EXPECT them to win. I expect it because I know they can. And who are you, his keeper?

BNB is doing fine fighting his own battles.

So your saying shut up about a specific thing....means its okay for you to say shut up to someone? Really? Got dammit that is just dumb!

I am not his keeper, pointing out your hypocrisies on a PUBLIC BOARD doesn't mean I am meddling. You were Ghandhi a couple of days ago, talking up respect and everything...now you are doing the total opposite to him. Just pointing that out to you bruh.

Still getting over you thinking that telling another man to shut up is not an insult....WTF?
 
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Muthafuckin Jesus Got Dam Christ.

Is this facebook now. ::shrug:

You all should be banned!

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We beat the Heat with Rose having the worst game of his professional career!
Well... you convinced me. We beat the Heat while Rose didn't play/played but had a terrible game. Now I think we're gonna win it all...

Come on.. it was a nice win but it meant very little.

We lost 1 game with him back in uniform & playing (and let's be honest we gave that game away). And learning how to play & score without Rose is not a detriment to the team. I completely disagree. Rose sitting has not only given him a better chance to study his teammate's respective games, but it's made him realize that he doesn't have to shoulder the entire load himself.

I didn't say learning how to play without Rose was a detriment to the team.. where did you even get that from? I even said we played great without him. I just said that once Rose came back, they all went back to doing what they were doing before he got injured. They were just looking to get him the ball and when had the ball, they did a lot of standing around and watching... But when he was out, they were doing a great job moving the ball to the open man. And I said if Rose continues to be out of rhythm and take a bunch of bad shots, we're gonna be fucked.

And you say it made him realize he doesn't have to shoulder everything by himself... Well, his first game back after missing 3 weeks against the Knicks, what did he do? Take 26 shots and tried doing everything himself. Against the Heat, he was trying to do things by himself until Thibs took him out and left him out.. and we won. Next game against the Pistons, if it wasn't for Boozer, Noah and Deng we would have lost because Rose was trying too hard again and almost lost us the game with careless turnovers. Good thing he hit a 3 to tie it, but we won't beat a playoff team if Rose is carless with the ball like that and we can't count on Rose hitting game tying 3's. Plus, it was the Pistons.

So I don't really see where or how he realized he doesn't need to do everything by himself.

His last 2 games he played, his scoring was way down but his assists were all up (20 combined shots, 15 assists, 2 turnovers) & the team looked perfectly fine against 2 playoff teams.

I'm not saying there aren't flaws with the team but this is NOT last year's team by any means.

We beat two playoff teams that were resting players/had players injured. Those games didn't really prove much to me. And how were his assists up those last 2 games? That's less than 8 APG and he averages close to 8 APG for the season.

The flaws we have are pretty concerning ones. Free throws can easily come back to haunt us. We're the 4th worst free throw shooting team in the league. We were also a shitty free throw shooting team last season.

The fact that we don't have anyone who can CONSISTENTLY step up when Rose sucks concerns me a lot... because if Rose plays really bad like he did last season against Miami, I don't think we can win. If he plays better or even if other guys just step up, I like our chances more.. but I just don't like our chances now.

If we play amazing against Philly and Bos or ATL, I may like our chances more against MIA or whoever we play.. but that's how I feel for now.
 
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I don't even have anything to say anymore because you guys have said it all and type way to fast for me.
I'm getting old and grey and think imma take the night off while you all beat the shit out of each other.

Goodnite.
 

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Jon Greenberg said:
The Bulls open with the Philadelphia 76ers, who seemingly would've given up the Liberty Bell to ensure an eighth-place finish, at noon CST Saturday.

Yes, there are questions, mostly just Derrick Rose's game of Operation litany of injuries. But crazy as it sounds, the Bulls are in a better spot than last year. They're more experienced, they have a better shooting guard and they remember how they went out last year. As long as Rose can play, whether it's passing or scoring, this team has a legit shot.

And I'm not just saying that because I dream of going to Oklahoma City or San Antonio in late June. (I would like to go to Los Angeles though.)

Thursday's game was seemingly meaningless -- OK it was miserable. But while Rose missed his 27th game, his teammates failed to get the memo that good teams were supposed to tank their finale. Without Rose, Luol Deng and Kyle Korver, the Bulls beat a lousy Cavaliers team 107-75 as six players scored in double figures, led by garbage-time gunner John Lucas III's 25. In a game that meant nothing, Chicago had 60 rebounds and shot 52.9 percent.

As Tom Thibodeau is wont to say, the Bulls had more than enough to win with. It's a cliche because it's true. Thibodeau never made an excuse all season, and his attitude permeated throughout his locker room.

"We're a brainwashed bunch," Korver said earlier this month.

They're also very consistent. While he gets the majority of negative attention on this team, it's time to commend Carlos Boozer, who played all 66 games, the only Bulls starter to do so. It was the first time Boozer played every game in the regular season, which he said he took pride in. Boozer's jumper is falling, and he's healthier than he was last postseason.

He said the Bulls' balance is better this year. They've learned to live without Rose and found themselves capable. Last season, Rose was the MVP. This season, he was just the Bulls' best player. There's a difference.

"Yeah, we're more spread out," Boozer said. "He's obviously our closer and our MVP, but we're so deep, four or five other guys can get 20 points any given night. Guys on the bench can get 20 on any given night. We've been able to jell with him, surround him with talent, but when the game is on the line, you know where's it's going and he comes through time in and time out. He's not 100 percent, but he's going to play with everything he has. It's a lot better than what other guys got. Trust me, we'll take that."
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