Devin Hester involved in Miami allegations

[CODE_BLUE56]

ya accepting stuff from a booster as an athlete is bad(not going to argue that at all)...but it happens all the time...and quite a few ahtletes wouldnt pass up free booster gifts,cash,etc.

you can argue its the player's fault for accepting(of course it partly is), but alot of the blame is on the schools for providing such benefits

 

[X]

idk wtf "Ponzi Scheme Money" is....can someone fill me in?

 

[MRN]

idk wtf "Ponzi Scheme Money" is....can someone fill me in?

Basically getting people to trust you with their money in a fake investment. Then turning around and keeping the money or using it selfishly.

 

[Diddy1122]

Personally I think taking money, free gifts, & all that is no worse than cheating on an SAT. Both are equally wrong & against the rules. Honestly I don't really care because none of these guys are going to be rocket scientists. They were in school strictly because they had to in order to get to the professional level.

 

[Popinski Soda]

All major players in college football get under the table things.

It's not just football, these things happen across the board in college sports with frightening regularity. Some programs are simply better than others at keeping their transgressions 'under the rug'.


J

 

[Gunzaan]

And a bunch of recruits over the past 5-8 years that Miami was after actually went to other schools. I wonder what those schools offered??

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

And a bunch of recruits over the past 5-8 years that Miami was after actually went to other schools. I wonder what those schools offered??

courtesy reacharounds

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

My roommate in college got paid by ISU for working in the cafeteria. Hell, I got paid by the ISU Athletic Department for dj'ing/doing sound effects during athletic contests....why these guys can't get some type of stipend for the university is beyond me.

 

[Uman85]

courtesy reacharounds

Damn. I should've played football. My baseball scholarships didn't offer me anything close to that.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

Damn. I should've played football. My baseball scholarships didn't offer me anything close to that.

very exclusive

all miami has are coke and whores

its the same old story isnt it?

 

[Diddy1122]

very exclusive

all miami has are coke and whores

its the same old story isnt it?

Did you mean to say "****", cuz they have plenty of that down there too.

 

[dabynsky]

You will never find a person more devoted to the idea that education is always good, but why do we insist on people whose only goal is professional sports go to college? Removing that would solve a lot of the problems in this you need to be amateur *wink* *wink* system we have right now.

 

[Diddy1122]

You will never find a person more devoted to the idea that education is always good, but why do we insist on people whose only goal is professional sports go to college? Removing that would solve a lot of the problems in this you need to be amateur *wink* *wink* system we have right now.

Agree 110%. Though I think it is beneficial for the player to experience being away from home, on their own, & learning in a structured sports environment, I don't think it's absolutely necessary & don't think it should be mandatory. They can always go back to school when their career is over.

 

[dabynsky]

Treating post-secondary education as a privilege instead of a right is a major issue in this country, but everyone knows the good programs are crooked in NCAA. The system needs to be fixed, and this idea that you have to go to college is silly for everyone involved (student-athlete, fans, coaches, NCAA, educators, etc.).

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

You will never find a person more devoted to the idea that education is always good, but why do we insist on people whose only goal is professional sports go to college? Removing that would solve a lot of the problems in this you need to be amateur *wink* *wink* system we have right now.

hard to say, for a while in the 90s and 2000s you saw alot of great basketball players skip college and go to the pros immediately since they had the ability to do that and had their sights on getting paid professionally and not having to make a stop..

some ended up successful(lebron,kobe,garnett,mcgrady,howard) quite a few didnt(kwame brown,sebastian telfair,eddy curry,etc.) partly because you dont really learn discipline in high school and AAU nor do you really learn how to polish your skills(also i,myself, still advocate guys who have no college interest just skip)

of course, you cant necessarily compare football and basketball directly, but the information above was illustrating what we have seen as a result of your kind of thinking(doesnt mean im going against your argument...because frankly i see there being alot of pros from players skipping college as well as cons)

in football's case, i think its much much too hard to completely skip college and go to the pros directly from high school. Frankly, the game is not built like basketball where you have guys who are seniors in high school who are developed enough to be on an NBA and significantly contribute.

But some kind of supplemental league(maybe UFL,CFL, possibly) would not be a terrible solution for players who are looking at making money rather than playing for a school..

 

[dabynsky]

I don't think players can skip directly from high school to the pros in the case of football (and even basketball really besides the 5-15 elite high school players). There needs to be something else besides NCAA football which is virtually the only way right now to get from high school to the NFL. I understand that the status quo benefits the schools, NCAA, and NFL which is why nothing has been done to change it, but the "outrage" to things like Miami is silly when you allow this system to fester.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

I don't think players can skip directly from high school to the pros in the case of football (and even basketball really besides the 5-15 elite high school players). There needs to be something else besides NCAA football which is virtually the only way right now to get from high school to the NFL. I understand that the status quo benefits the schools, NCAA, and NFL which is why nothing has been done to change it, but the "outrage" to things like Miami is silly when you allow this system to fester.

agreed...especially since this is not a relatively small issue that deals with one or two teams..its nearly every single major program..and even some minor programs...

you wonder at some point when the NCAA will decide to fix this issue and how they will fix it...it seems at a first look that probation and those sorts of consequences for violations would be sufficient, but frankly it hasnt stopped the problem

 

[DirtyProgram]

Devin Hester definitely isn't the bad guy in this situation. I feel like he's proved himself to be a pretty stand up guy considering all the options he had at Miami, yet all he did was get some rims and some cash. No harm in that!

Miami is the one who should and will fry for this!

 

[dabynsky]

The issue is that NCAA seems almost compliant with what was going at Miami. The NCAA knows how it is getting paid, and it is through dirty money by the rules it imposes. It isn't in anyone's interest to fix the problem which is why it continues to go on, and then we have to act shocked and outraged when teams are "caught" breaking the rules.

 

[DirtyProgram]

Miami was running one of the dirtiest programs of all time while Hester was there... this isn't his fault and I hope the media doesn't come down on him too hard. They have the right to ask the questions, but he's not to blame here.