Dexter Dilemma

[bearsfan1977]

Yeah I mean you pretty much want 3 guys that can play around 60-70% of snaps and then a 4th guy that can play 10-20%. So something like.

Billings - 60%
Dexter - 60%
Nolan - 60%
4th DT - 20%

Yes, preferably with 2 guys who can rush the passer, and 2 guys who are good run-stuffers.

Dexter, Billings, Nolen and a guy like Alfred Collins in the 3rd makes for a very good interior DL group.

 

[SugarWalls]

Is Dexter really best suited for 3t or do the bears realistically need 2?

 

[dabears70]

While i would rather have Nolan, I do like that Green wrestled in college. It really does help with balance and leverage.

I think we all like Green but i'm just wondering if he's big enough for what Dennis Allen likes for his DE's or if that even really matters as much anymore like it used to matter. He might be a bit smaller than a typical D.Allen DE but the dude is strong as fuk.

 

[dabears70]

Yes, preferably with 2 guys who can rush the passer, and 2 guys who are good run-stuffers.

Dexter, Billings, Nolen and a guy like Alfred Collins in the 3rd makes for a very good interior DL group.

It absolutely does but we have to get a legit pass rusher opposite Sweat as well.

 

[greg23]

Walter Nolen
Gervon Dexter
3T
De-FENCE

Fuk

Hey meatballs......start drafting an offense for once in this franchise history....around qb drafted 1.1....preferably on the OL

 

[--CyBear--]

Walter Nolen
Gervon Dexter
3T
De-FENCE

Fuk

Hey meatballs......start drafting an offense for once in this franchise history....around qb drafted 1.1....preferably on the OL

Every 1st round pick the Bears have had since 2020 has been used for offense. 8 of the 1st 2 days picks since 2018 have been used for O. 9 if you count DJ.

Sorry but I'm not drafting a G at 10, nor another WR, TE or RB there this year. LT would be my only spot if the guy is a slam dunk. O does need more help but I'm not taking inside OL at 10 in this draft. Trade down? Maybe.

16 day 1 and 2 picks (if you include DJ, Claypool and Miller trades) were used on O since the Mitch draft. 10 for the D if you include the Mack trade.

5 or 6 #1s depending on how you feel about DJ. 5 for D if you include Mack.

The last 4 or 5 #1s have all been on O without a D player in the mix.

Maybe it's more meatball to think the Bear aren't drafting O early under the last 2 GMs.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Precisely. Neither Dexter nor Billings should preclude the Bears from taking guys like Nolen. Or guys like Kenneth Grant, for that matter.

While a lot of attention has been focused on the OL ( and rightfully so), the DL is as weak and perhaps weaker. Near the bottom of the league. Both lines need serious improvement.

And yet some want a RB at 10.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Walter Nolen
Gervon Dexter
3T
De-FENCE

Fuk

Hey meatballs......start drafting an offense for once in this franchise history....around qb drafted 1.1....preferably on the OL

Both lines can and should be addressed. Picking defense in round one doesn’t mean OL can’t be addressed heavily as well

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Every 1st round pick the Bears have had since 2020 has been used for offense. 8 of the 1st 2 days picks since 2018 have been used for O. 9 if you count DJ.

Sorry but I'm not drafting a G at 10, nor another WR, TE or RB there this year. LT would be my only spot if the guy is a slam dunk. O does need more help but I'm not taking inside OL at 10 in this draft. Trade down? Maybe.

16 day 1 and 2 picks (if you include DJ, Claypool and Miller trades) were used on O since the Mitch draft. 10 for the D if you include the Mack trade.

5 or 6 #1s depending on how you feel about DJ. 5 for D if you include Mack.

The last 4 or 5 #1s have all been on O without a D player in the mix.

Maybe it's more meatball to think the Bear aren't drafting O early under the last 2 GMs.

If it’s someone good I am fine with it. Most important thing is just to hit on the pick. Can’t afford to whiff

 

[bamainatlanta]

If it’s someone good I am fine with it. Most important thing is just to hit on the pick. Can’t afford to whiff

All of the guards are pretty much the same talent level; can easily get a comparable OG in the 2nd.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

It's admitting Dexter is quality depth and not a pro bowl type difference maker. It's probably what needs to happen.

I am disappointed Pickens was a complete dud. We put a huge percentage of draft capital (being under resourced) into the position and didn't solve it, compounding the mistake.

Eagles had just as bad a dud in signing Huff and still won. Just goes to show even the best strike out sometimes….. the key is to just keep pouring those resources into the lines every year.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

All of the guards are pretty much the same talent level; can easily get a comparable OG in the 2nd.

You probably can say that about the DL too. There’s very little blue chips. Just draft a guy who will be here for 10 years in round one. Then repeat twice in round two. I am definitely not going to get caught up in positional value.

 

[bamainatlanta]

You probably can say that about the DL too. There’s very little blue chips. Just draft a guy who will be here for 10 years in round one. Then repeat twice in round two. I am definitely not going to get caught up in positional value.

At DT, outside of Graham, yes. At DE? There is a clear distinction of talent from the DE’s that will be gone by 15 to the later 1st/early 2nd guys.

 

[Xplosive]

Yeah I mean you pretty much want 3 guys that can play around 60-70% of snaps and then a 4th guy that can play 10-20%. So something like.

Billings - 60%
Dexter - 60%
Nolan - 60%
4th DT - 20%

Thats cool math but not how it works in the NFL.

I checked the Eagles, Titans and Ravens for examples and there was no 60/60/60 split. Two guys get the majority of the snaps and the third guy gets about 40%.

So while people will likely claim that Billings should get the 40%, the problem is that Dexter cant play the run well enough to replace Billings.

Ultimately what will happen is exactly what I said... The Bears end up using the #10 pick to replace Dexter (if they pick Nolan), which makes no sense.


Eagles: Carter 79%, Williams 48%, Davis 37%

Titans: Simmons 76%, Sweat 66%, Joseph-Day 46%

Ravens: Madubuike 72%, Jones 52%, Pierce 20%

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

At DT, outside of Graham, yes. At DE? There is a clear distinction of talent from the DE’s that will be gone by 15 to the later 1st/early 2nd guys.

Who are your DE’s?

(Other than Carter who obviously won’t be there)

 

[Washington]

And yet some want a RB at 10.

That makes me chuckle. It is an insane consideration that I am praying the idiot GM does not entertain.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Thats cool math but not how it works in the NFL.

I checked the Eagles, Titans and Ravens for examples and there was no 60/60/60 split. Two guys get the majority of the snaps and the third guy gets about 40%.

So while people will likely claim that Billings should get the 40%, the problem is that Dexter cant play the run well enough to replace Billings.

Ultimately what will happen is exactly what I said... The Bears end up using the #10 pick to replace Dexter, which makes no sense.


Eagles: Carter 79%, Williams 48%, Davis 37%

Titans: Simmons 76%, Sweat 66%, Joseph-Day 46%

Ravens: Madubuike 72%, Jones 52%, Pierce 20%

 

[Xplosive]

Who are your DE’s?

(Other than Carter who obviously won’t be there)

Mykel Williams, James Pearce, Mike Green

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Mykel Williams, James Pearce, Mike Green

I’m not sure what Allen wants at DE yet but there’s a chance Pearce and Green may be too small based on what he’s had before.

 

[dabears70]

I think we all like Green but i'm just wondering if he's big enough for what Dennis Allen likes for his DE's or if that even really matters as much anymore like it used to matter. He might be a bit smaller than a typical D.Allen DE but the dude is strong as fuk.

Fitting Montez Sweat and Bears edge rushers for Dennis Allen's scheme​

MSN