Dez Clark says High School racist to his son

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I wish we lived in a world where people were not so damn compelled to have an opinion despite lack of information or evidence.

I just don't get the compulsion. What is so bad about withholding judgement when there is insufficient info? What is the deal with the modern race to opinion? Its fuckin weird.
 

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I wish we lived in a world where people were not so damn compelled to have an opinion despite lack of information or evidence.

I just don't get the compulsion. What is so bad about withholding judgement when there is insufficient info? What is the deal with the modern race to opinion? Its fuckin weird.

A small sense of flase power or control, or even order, in an increasingly confusing world?
 

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Is there something I'm not seeing in the video to get Maria Clarke charged with assault? Cause I didn't see it.

Seems an over the top reaction to the events but the correct words in your face can make that happen.
 

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The fucked up thing is that by the time the whole story comes out, people have already moved on to the next reactionary headline. Interest has already dried up by the time the real story is known and the knee jerk opinions are never corrected.

Its all so depressing.
 

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I wish we lived in a world where people were not so damn compelled to have an opinion despite lack of information or evidence.

I just don't get the compulsion. What is so bad about withholding judgement when there is insufficient info? What is the deal with the modern race to opinion? Its fuckin weird.

It's just an opinion. It's part of why we post. As long as it's not represented as fact or argued as better than another's, big deal. We know Desmond doesn't attend school so he also only has his son's and the teacher's take on things. Personally, I suspect the kid gets some racist comments at school but I doubt it's by teachers or in front of them. I also suspect the kid broke some rule. I don't think those are reaches. I personally think the couple over did it and disrupted an event but I also don't think it was arrest worthy.
 

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The fucked up thing is that by the time the whole story comes out, people have already moved on to the next reactionary headline. Interest has already dried up by the time the real story is known and the knee jerk opinions are never corrected.

Its all so depressing.

Really is. I'd like to know what's actually up. I guess we'll have to live with our misconceptions. Part of this that bothers me most is all the racism involved. I thought we were getting past that when I was hippying out. Always thought that youth would set a new standard and future generations would negate it but no and it seems to not be getting any better of late. At least the kid aint ***. Gays can vote. Right?
 

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I have access to something called the internet !

So you sit around googling how to bond out of jail? Sounds like a real fun time down there in BloNo
 

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It's not 1940 but there's plenty of racism around. Don't know if it's racist or just dumb.
How can you be racist in Chicago? It's like wearing a kkk outfit to a basketball game
 

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It's just an opinion. It's part of why we post. As long as it's not represented as fact or argued as better than another's, big deal. We know Desmond doesn't attend school so he also only has his son's and the teacher's take on things. Personally, I suspect the kid gets some racist comments at school but I doubt it's by teachers or in front of them. I also suspect the kid broke some rule. I don't think those are reaches. I personally think the couple over did it and disrupted an event but I also don't think it was arrest worthy.

Developing opinions without information is the definition of ignorance.

Saying "its just an opinion, man" does not absolve people of the individual responsibility to be informed. Just because a sentiment is "an opinion" doesn't mean it can't be misleading, inconsiderate, flat out wrong, or damaging to individuals and society at large.

I thing there are misconceptions about what an opinion really is. When dealing with actual events or facts that can be confirmed or refuted with evidence, its not an opinion anymore. Its true or false.

Its also just basic human consideration to fucking avoid spouting ignorant nonsense. Its bad for everybody.

Here is a nice article:

No, It’s Not Your Opinion. You’re Just Wrong.


I spend far more time arguing on the Internet than can possibly be healthy, and the word I’ve come to loath more than any other is “opinion”. Opinion, or worse “belief”, has become the shield of every poorly-conceived notion that worms its way onto social media.

There’s a common conception that an opinion cannot be wrong. My dad said it. Hell, everyone’s dad probably said it and in the strictest terms it is true. However, before you crouch behind your Shield of Opinion, you need to ask yourself two questions.

1. Is this actually an opinion?

2. If it is an opinion how informed is it and why do I hold it?

I’ll help you with the first part. An opinion is a preference for or judgment of something. My favorite color is black. I think mint tastes awful. Doctor Who is the best television show. These are all opinions. They may be unique to me alone or massively shared across the general population but they all have one thing in common; they cannot be verified outside of the fact that I believe them.

There’s nothing wrong with an opinion on those things. The problem comes from people whose opinions are actually misconceptions. If you think vaccines cause autism you are expressing something factually wrong, not an opinion. The fact that you may still believe that vaccines cause autism does not move your misconception into the realm of valid opinion. Nor does the fact that many others share this opinion give it any more validity.

To quote John Oliver, who on his show Last Week Tonight referenced a Gallup poll showing one in four Americans believe climate change isn’t real:

"Who gives a shit? You don’t need people’s opinion on a fact. You might as well have a poll asking: “Which number is bigger, 15 or 5?” or “Do owls exist?” or “Are there hats?”

You saw this same thing recently when questions about the Confederate flag started making the rounds. It may be your opinion that slavery was not the driving cause of the Civil War, but the Texas Articles of Secession mention slavery 21 times (rights are mentioned only six, and only once in a sentence that doesn’t mention either slavery or how way more flippin’ awesome white people are than black people). Do I even need to point out that some people are also of the opinion the Holocaust was fake, and that their opinion means absolutely nothing to the reality?

And yes, sometimes scientific or historical data is wrong or unclear or in need of further examination. Everyone knows water expands when it freezes. Do you know why it does that? when literally nothing else in the world does? Nope, and neither does science.[ *See correction below and related article] Or hey, here’s a question; what was the racial heritage of the Ancient Egyptians because historians can’t come to a consensus and Egyptian art is too stylized to accurately judge.

Subjects like that are the sort of things that are ripe for an opinion. Water expands when it freezes because of the shape of the molecule. The Egyptians were a displaced black African race that settled the Nile. Here, opinion can be a placeholder for a greater understanding assuming there ever is a greater understanding. There is no verification; it can only be guessed at. Hopefully in an educated manner.

That’s where the second question comes in; is your opinion informed and why do you believe it? Though technically these opinions cannot be wrong they can be lacking in worth simply because they are lacking in structure.

Here’s an example. Let’s say I meet a fellow Doctor Who fan, and this fan’s favorite Doctor is David Tennant. Nothing wrong so far. However, upon further discussing the subject this fan tells me that he or she has never seen any of the pre-2005 episodes or heard any of the radio plays. Now, it’s possible that even if he or she had done so that David Tennant would still be his or her favorite Doctor, but it’s also possible that it would be Tom Baker or Paul McGann or someone else.

In a perfect world someone confronted with this would simply say, “Well, David Tennant is my favorite that I’ve seen.” There’s plenty of reasons to not have seen any older Doctor Who episodes. It’s not all on Netflix, there’s a lot of it, radio plays can get rather expensive, etc. Having reached a narrow opinion from a narrow set of information is only natural.

What mucks it all up is when a narrow set of information is assumed to be wider than it is. There is a difference between a belief and things you just didn’t know. It’s easy to believe, for instance, that whites face as much discrimination as people of color, but only if you are completely ignorant of the unemployment rates of blacks versus whites, the fact that of the Fortune 500 CEOs only five are black, or the fact that of the 43 men who have been president 42.5 of them have been white.

In other words, you can form an opinion in a bubble, and for the first couple of decades of our lives we all do. However, eventually you are going to venture out into the world and find that what you thought was an informed opinion was actually just a tiny thought based on little data and your feelings. Many, many, many of your opinions will turn out to be uninformed or just flat out wrong. No, the fact that you believed it doesn’t make it any more valid or worthwhile, and nobody owes your viewpoint any respect simply because it is yours.

You can be wrong or ignorant. It will happen. Reality does not care about your feelings. Education does not exist to persecute you. The misinformed are not an ethnic minority being oppressed. What’s that? Planned Parenthood is chopping up dead babies and selling them for phat cash? No, that’s not what actually happened. No, it’s not your opinion. You’re just wrong.


http://www.houstonpress.com/arts/no-it-s-not-your-opinion-you-re-just-wrong-updated-7611752
 

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When you're 20 you have an opinion.
When you are 50 you have wisdom and can read through things.You don't need to have all the so called facts or proof when you understand how life and people work after watching it for so long.
When Rashard Mendenhall retired at 26 from the Cardinals a couple years ago he said he he had to put up with being called bigger in social media and elsewhere.
 

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When you're 20 you have an opinion.
When you are 50 you have wisdom and can read through things.You don't need to have all the so called facts or proof when you understand how life and people work after watching it for so long.

Complete and utter nonsense.
 

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When you're 20 you have an opinion.
When you are 50 you have wisdom and can read through things.You don't need to have all the so called facts or proof when you understand how life and people work after watching it for so long.
When Rashard Mendenhall retired at 26 from the Cardinals a couple years ago he said he he had to put up with being called bigger in social media and elsewhere.

Complete bullshit. You don't need facts or proof because you've lived a certain # of years? Some of the most ignorant people I've ever met are over 50, and conversely some of the wisest, most mature and reasoned people I've met are under 30 (I'm 43). And the younger ones are often more willing to change their "opinions" and not stick their head in the sand and claim they already know it all based upon their limited life experience. Give me a fucking break.
 

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Complete bullshit. You don't need facts or proof because you've lived a certain # of years? Some of the most ignorant people I've ever met are over 50, and conversely some of the wisest, most mature and reasoned people I've met are under 30 (I'm 43). And the younger ones are often more willing to change their "opinions" and not stick their head in the sand and claim they already know it all based upon their limited life experience. Give me a fucking break.

I didn't say there weren't variables.
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I didn't say the number age was the deciding factor.
By and large the older you are the more wisdom and experiential knowledge you possess.

There's plenty of 60 year old racists smarter than you despite the fact they are dumb racists lol
 

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