Do the Bulls have enough?

[JosMin]

Just posted on ESPN.com

The round table made a few good points. Definitely agree that Boozer really needs to have an 75+ game season in which he averages a 20-10 and quiets all the naysayers about the contract we handed to him. I'd also love to see another full season of Gibson and Asik. Having those two as your frontcourt options off the bench is a fantastic luxury and I genuinely think they can transform into a fantastic combination on the second unit.

Completely disagree with a shortened season helping the Bulls, however. This team needs to keep playing together and developing that fantastic chemistry that was showcased last year. Not to mention, fans really can't expect this team to improve without playing.

 

[scottiepippen1994]

Just posted on ESPN.com

The round table made a few good points. Definitely agree that Boozer really needs to have an 75+ game season in which he averages a 20-10 and quiets all the naysayers about the contract

You can forget about a 72 game ss season garenteed.

 

[Uman85]

They don't have enough yet, but they have a solid foundation. They need a scoring threat at the 2 spot to take some pressure off of Rose when he's double-teamed and put in bad positions down the stretch. They're close, but they need a reliable second scorer to complement Rose.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

They have enough to contend, but they don't have enough to realistically win it all.

Dallas was much of the same way until they filled the void that they had for so long at the C position with Tyson Chandler. The Bulls need a dynamic SG. And Kyle Korver and Ronnie Brewer magically fusing together would not quite solve that problem either. They need a player who can create his own shot and set up others off of the dribble. Having only one player who does that is not quite enough to win a title. Rose is the play-maker. The Bulls need a secondary play-maker (i.e. Spurs with Ginobili, or Celtics with Pierce and Allen, or Pistons with Hamilton).

 

[scottiepippen1994]

They don't have enough yet, but they have a solid foundation. They need a scoring threat at the 2 spot to take some pressure off of Rose when he's double-teamed and put in bad positions down the stretch. They're close, but they need a reliable second scorer to complement Rose.

You mean swag like these guys.

 

[Uman85]

You mean swag like these guys.

Gordon, yes. Haha

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

I would rather have Keith Bogans on the Bulls than Ben Gordon- especially given the price.

 

[scottiepippen1994]

I would rather have Keith Bogans on the Bulls than Ben Gordon- especially given the price.

Anyone who would rather have kieth bogans than ben gordon suffers from some sort of mental disorder or serious denial issues in regards to personal hatred that blinds there logic...Just plain ridiculous....:kick: :slap:

 

[Crystallas]

If the NBA comes back this year, it wont be about who we add, as much as who the competition loses. The window for all teams to make moves will be smaller, and the Bulls have the best environment for a lot of attractive players.

 

[inactiveuser1]

I would rather have Keith Bogans on the Bulls than Ben Gordon- especially given the price.

I agree, he plays more defense, and scores when needed and for a much cheaper price

 

[scottiepippen1994]

I agree, he plays more defense, and scores when needed and for a much cheaper price

:rolling:

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

ben gordon is a piece of trash now...originally he couldnt play D but now he can barely play basketball...and he's way overpriced

i think its very justifiable to prefer bogans over him

:umad:

 

[scottiepippen1994]

Are you guys tring to piss me off or what???....L o L , its not working.....Ben Gordon played in one of the most disorginized team with an overload of guards that didn't know there place in a system that made no sense not to mention, playin for the worst head coach to ever grace a basketball court sideline.Did I mention that the Pistons are a very poorly constructed team?..That is the reason for him falling off...Yes he is overpaid for what he has contrbuted in Detroit, but at the time he received his contract, he was worth it....In a differant situation like here in Chicago, his career would rebound quick...

 

[clonetrooper264]

I agree, he plays more defense, and scores when needed and for a much cheaper price

Keith Bogans scores? And on top of that when needed? Are you serious? Don't you remember how much we were complaining that Bogans wasn't shooting well enough or how there was such a hole at SG because Bogans was scoring 3 points a game shooting 3-5 wide open 3s? Gordon was a 20ppg scorer here. That's scoring when needed.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Ben Gordon could do one thing amazingly: shoot.

He was a TERRIBLE ball-handler for someone 6'3'' and under in the NBA.

He was a very mediocre passer for someone 6'3'' and under in the NBA.

He was a very ineffective defensive player.

Who would I rather have: Bogans for $1M or Gordon for $12M?

Only an idiot chooses B.G.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Keith Bogans scores? And on top of that when needed? Are you serious? Don't you remember how much we were complaining that Bogans wasn't shooting well enough or how there was such a hole at SG because Bogans was scoring 3 points a game shooting 3-5 wide open 3s? Gordon was a 20ppg scorer here. That's scoring when needed.

Ben Gordon averaging 20 points per-game is more of a testament to how bad the Bulls' offense was back when he was playing for them.

 

[RC_Skinny22]

Yes, Gordon would be an upgrade over Bogans.

He can average 15pts very easily. And I don´t think he is that bad at playing defense that it would destoy us. Kyle is much worse plus we have Noah, Gibson and Deng who all are gr8 defenders.

Gordon had a bad season in Detroit because he wasn´t used well and he was injured if I´m not wrong.

But .............. he is just way too expensive.

 

[clonetrooper264]

Ben Gordon could do one thing amazingly: shoot.

He was a TERRIBLE ball-handler for someone 6'3'' and under in the NBA.

He was a very mediocre passer for someone 6'3'' and under in the NBA.

He was a very ineffective defensive player.

Who would I rather have: Bogans for $1M or Gordon for $12M?

Only an idiot chooses B.G.

Well obviously contract situations skew matters. Would you rather have Gordon for $12M or Joe Johnson for more than double that? You'd probably say Johnson, but you might have to think about it a little bit more. What if Gordon was making $9M? Would you take him then?

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Gordon in Kyle Korver's role would be an upgrade.

Unless it was for well over $5M. Then, not so much.

Gordon is completely un-capable of being a starting SG in this league. He is undersized on defense and cannot create for other players. He can barely create for himself without turning the ball over.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Well obviously contract situations skew matters. Would you rather have Gordon for $12M or Joe Johnson for more than double that? You'd probably say Johnson, but you might have to think about it a little bit more. What if Gordon was making $9M? Would you take him then?

Well, if the Bulls were straight-up absorbing ridiculous contracts on top of the team that they already have now, then I will take Joe Johnson and let Reinsdorf go deep into his pocket books paying the luxury tax. Joe Johnson is so much better than Gordon... But both of those contracts are awful in their own right.