Does anyone else feel disappointed about this season, but also calm about the team getting better quick?

[remydat]

Then maybe you should hire some assistants from the Rams?

Dumbass

Ray Agnew is a former Rams assistant just like Holmes is. Dumbass.

 

[DanielCCSBears]

I don't know where the tone setter player(s) are.

Who on this team can you count on to make a clutch play in a key situation?

The defense is devoid of makers. It's liters a collection of guys and there's not one that stokes fear.

Jaylon Johnson is a fantastic player but teams have been successful by avoiding him. There's zero pass rush, there's zero pocket push or disruption. It's a fucking mess.

On offense there's not a single offensive lineman that's guaranteed to hold up in a key situation.

DJ Moore is good but he's not a game breaker. He's had a game here a game there but there's not enough consistency in his game. Moore is a tier one number one WR. He's definitely a good player and I like him a lot. But he's not elite.

I don't see elite qualities in Rome Odunze. He looks like he might be a good player in the right situation. But I don't see the ability to flash. I don't foresee him being able to take over a game. Maybe a good player but won't fill his value as a Top-10 pick.

I don't see that guy that can take a game over take it the distance when it's absolutely needed.

 

[MikeDitkaPolishSausage]

at which point said players' contracts will about to be up

Very true and could take even longer haha

 

[nc0gnet0]

Ray Agnew is a former Rams assistant just like Holmes is. Dumbass.

I know you struggle with extreme learning disability, so I will explain it to you.

is it his job performance with the Lions or with the Rams that has him being considered for a GM position?
Which one has more significance?

Remy vortex in

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[GoBears]

I can't believe I seriously considered spending hundreds of dollars subscribing to a package to let me watch this abortion of a season. Like actually did research on what would be the best deal to pay for the games.

Thankfully I spent that money on a nail gun and subsequently shot a nail through my foot, which was still far more enjoyable than spending a minute watching a bunch of pee-wee football players play against NFL teams.

 

[msadows]

I can't believe I seriously considered spending hundreds of dollars subscribing to a package to let me watch this abortion of a season. Like actually did research on what would be the best deal to pay for the games.

Thankfully I spent that money on a nail gun and subsequently shot a nail through my foot, which was still far more enjoyable than spending a minute watching a bunch of pee-wee football players play against NFL teams.

Why would you do that? IPTV is like 5 dollars a month buddy, and streameast is free

 

[modo]

sure...

 

[hyatt151]

Unfortunately, I keep hoping for this, but the McCaskeys manage to kill that hope every year. They are, without doubt, the worst owners in pro sports. I wouldn’t trust them running an ice cream truck without screwing it up.

what if the Mccaskeys sold to Reinsdorf, that would be classic

 

[HearshotKDS]

I think the team is closer than the record looks, but they also basically have to completely rebuild the OL and a significant chunk of the DL both starters and depth. I think a competent mind though could do it fairly quickly (maybe not in 1 season), but 30+ years of watching the Bears has led me to be skeptical it will get done. But still we rage, rage against the dying light - I am not yet ready to go gentle into that good night.

 

[Username]

The current commonly believed fallacy is this team is talented. They are not. There are no pro-bowlers on the O and maybe one on the D, (but not this year). They have a con-man for a GM and that GM has 1 first round, 2 second round 1 third round 1 fifth and 1 sixth round picks to get this team back to medicocity. Something he hasn't been able to do in three years, even with having the 1st pick of the draft two years in a row. They have another con-man for Team President who was brought in here to build a stadium. They haven't broken ground yet. The President has never made a team decision, but we're told he "knows a lot of people". I don't know why people get their hopes up that some lightening bolt of pure luck is going to strike the Bears management in the ass and they'll finally pick the right people. They have no clue in what they're doing. There is only one way this team has a 50/50 chance at getting better and that is when the team is sold.

 

[msadows]

The current commonly believed fallacy is this team is talented. They are not. There are no pro-bowlers on the O and maybe one on the D, (but not this year). They have a con-man for a GM and that GM has 1 first round, 2 second round 1 third round 1 fifth and 1 sixth round picks to get this team back to medicocity. Something he hasn't been able to do in three years, even with having the 1st pick of the draft two years in a row. They have another con-man for Team President who was brought in here to build a stadium. They haven't broken ground yet. The President has never made a team decision, but we're told he "knows a lot of people". I don't know why people get their hopes up that some lightening bolt of pure luck is going to strike the Bears management in the ass and they'll finally pick the right people. They have no clue in what they're doing. There is only one way this team has a 50/50 chance at getting better and that is when the team is sold.

Sorry username, but coaching matters. There is plenty of talent on this team, they didnt all magically regress to career worst performances.

Its all coaching/culture, if they hired harbaugh this past offseason they'd likely be competing for a wild card seed right now rather than a top 10 pick.

 

[Username]

Sorry username, but coaching matters. There is plenty of talent on this team, they didnt all magically regress to career worst performances.

Its all coaching/culture, if they hired harbaugh this past offseason they'd likely be competing for a wild card seed right now rather than a top 10 pick.

Sorry msadows, but while coaching will matter on a talented team, it will not matter with this team. The Bears have no foundation to work from and no players to build around. There are no difference makers, game breakers, or go to's on this team and there is no depth anywhere. The GM (whoever that is going to be) has a lot of work to do. But we can't expect Warren to hire a competent GM because Warren is a blow hard and George is an idiot for bringing him on.

 

[msadows]

Sorry msadows, but while coaching will matter on a talented team, it will not matter with this team. The Bears have no foundation to work from and no players to build around. There are no difference makers, game breakers, or go to's on this team and there is no depth anywhere. The GM (whoever that is going to be) has a lot of work to do. But we can't expect Warren to hire a competent GM because Warren is a blow hard and George is an idiot for bringing him on.

Poles is going to remain the GM, sorry to burst your bubble.

 

[DanielCCSBears]

History does say that, but the Warren stuff is what throws a fly in that ointment.

There is no Warren stuff. He's been a complete buffoon as well. His handling of the stadium stuff to this point has been absolutely laughable.

Warren is here mostly because his religious ideals match very closely with the the McCaskey family religious fundamentalism and because he is tied to the Vikings stadium.

He didn't actually do any heavy lifting in their stadium cause. There wasn't anyone else interviewed for the job. Warren was already in town due to the Big 10 headquarters being in Rosemont. I'm sure he ran in the same circles as the family and they developed relationship and he got the job not because he's a competent NFL guy but because they knew him and trusted him.

After that it was easy to sell him to the fans.

The McCaskey family is in the business of selling the team to the fans not actually running the franchise. They do things and then create a narrative around it to make it seem like it was a good thing.

I.e. Ted Phillips was a good president because he opened up new revenue streams for the Bears.

Matt Eberflus is a better coach because of a beard and a hair cut.

There isn't any competence.

 

[Username]

Poles is going to remain the GM, sorry to burst your bubble.

There is no bubble. I fully expect either Poles to stay and continue picking mediocre to less than mediocre players or they dump him only to get another idiot for a new GM. You seem to have a hard on for Hope. Sorry, there is no Hope for this team. You'll have to frap to something else until this team is sold.

 

[DaaBears]

I am thinking Poles will not be here next year. I think Warren was letting Poles handle all football, and a month ago jumped in giving the appearance that okay, I guess I need to get involved to fix this mess. Poles can stay but everything he does will have Warren looking over his shoulder, possibly with an attitude. I think at end of season, Poles and Warren agree to part ways.

The only way Poles stays is if he figures if he packs it in now, his future is bleak in NFL, so maybe he decides to play good subordinate.

All just speculation on my part, could be way off.

 

[remydat]

I know you struggle with extreme learning disability, so I will explain it to you.

is it his job performance with the Lions or with the Rams that has him being considered for a GM position?
Which one has more significance?

Remy vortex in

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Before coming to Detroit, Agnew spent four years as the director of pro scouting with the Los Angeles Rams. He was a member of the Rams scouting staff for 18 seasons, having previously served as the assistant director of pro personnel.

He learned his trade with Rams. The Lions is just him applying what he learned same as Holmes.

Poles is a KC guy and Cunningham is an Eagles guy. I would not say anyone is copying the Bears if they hired them because they didn't really learn the trade under the Bears.

 

[Mighty Joe Young]

There is no Warren stuff. He's been a complete buffoon as well. His handling of the stadium stuff to this point has been absolutely laughable.

Warren is here mostly because his religious ideals match very closely with the the McCaskey family religious fundamentalism and because he is tied to the Vikings stadium.

He didn't actually do any heavy lifting in their stadium cause. There wasn't anyone else interviewed for the job. Warren was already in town due to the Big 10 headquarters being in Rosemont. I'm sure he ran in the same circles as the family and they developed relationship and he got the job not because he's a competent NFL guy but because they knew him and trusted him.

After that it was easy to sell him to the fans.

The McCaskey family is in the business of selling the team to the fans not actually running the franchise. They do things and then create a narrative around it to make it seem like it was a good thing.

I.e. Ted Phillips was a good president because he opened up new revenue streams for the Bears.

Matt Eberflus is a better coach because of a beard and a hair cut.

There isn't any competence.

Sounds to me like you actually don't KNOW how Warren got the job...

In other words, you are just bullshitting.

 

[nc0gnet0]

Before coming to Detroit, Agnew spent four years as the director of pro scouting with the Los Angeles Rams. He was a member of the Rams scouting staff for 18 seasons, having previously served as the assistant director of pro personnel.

He learned his trade with Rams. The Lions is just him applying what he learned same as Holmes.

Poles is a KC guy and Cunningham is an Eagles guy. I would not say anyone is copying the Bears if they hired them because they didn't really learn the trade under the Bears.

I see you cleverly left Johnson out of the conversation now, as he doesn't fit your narrative.
Nice try, but huge fail, dumbass.
Somebody hiring Poles, get the **** out of here.......................

 

[Zvbxrpl]

The team is close, but they're going to have to hit on 2 good OL, (that's good, not 'serviceable;'at least 1 IOL and an OT) and let the offensive HC do his thing. Draft capital early and late for depth. You can get lucky in FA with a guy who wont get a 2nd contract and needs that 'prove it' deal, and draft one early so your 3 top draft picks in the 1st 2 rounds can be spread out among the lines.

Coaching matters. I think after revamping the O, I'd find a guy like Dennis Allen to run a 3-4 here and have a dynamic like with Nagy and Fangio or how its going now with Kevin O'Connell and Brian Flores; let the Offensive coach do his thing on O, and let the DC have free range over the defense. Find him a blob NT (whether or not that's one of the Michigan DTs Ken Grant or the Kentucky monstrosity Deone Walker with one of the round 2 picks) to platoon with Billings, move Dexter to 5T where he belongs, find another, and draft/find an edge--which they need to do anyways.

If you're sticking with a 4-3...which I don't want to see because its antiquated and modern offenses tend to shred it/take advantage of your linebackers with speed, along with there aren't many outstanding D playcallers to choose from--unless dusting off old Vikes coach Zimmer floats your boat...you need the other Michigan kid Graham or Walt Nolen to be your 3T, and that has to be your 1st round draft choice because neither are falling to round 2. I'd rather leave a defensive scheme whose best days were 20-30 years ago where it belongs, in the past--but I understand a sizeable portion of this fanbase loves nostalgia and "tradition," not actually winning with a modern team in modern times.