Draft If Top OL N/A?

[discplayer]

It's changing everywhere daily atm. I mean some people think Banks will be a guard. Some say Simmons has better potential than either Banks or Campbell. Right now the NFL.com mock has us taking Tyler Booker the guard at 10 with Banks and Simmons still on the board. We'll learn a lot more at the combine but it seems there are valid options at 10 even if a couple are taken before we pick. We need to fix the OL and do it so we have talent coming in for the future.

And have them on rookie deals with control over 5th year option.

 

[Clancyb424]

The Bears have both tackles playing on rookie deals. Unless they can trade back, picking up an additional Day 2 pick, I don’t like the the thought of taking a tackle in the 1st. Let Braxton play and make your decision next offseason. Plenty of IOL later in the draft, which is what they really need. If they can’t find a partner, stay put and hope James Pearce Jr is there at 10 (assuming Carter and Graham are gone).

 

[Dstone5553]

My question is who does Poles and Co pick if Mykel Williams is available and so is Banks and Campell?


I'm guessing he would take Williams and draft the best O linemen with #39 and #41 like Milum and Conerly?


But honestly I have no idea who's better than who.

 

[bamainatlanta]

My question is who does Poles and Co pick if Mykel Williams is available and so is Banks and Campell?


I'm guessing he would take Williams and draft the best O linemen with #39 and #41 like Milum and Conerly?


But honestly I have no idea who's better than who.

None of us do. I think Allen values versatility in his defensive formations so he would probably prefer Jalen Walker over Williams. But who the f knows

 

[NCChiFan]

I'm waiting until this board ramps up the first 10 mocs to then make my decision.

 

[Brownie]

The value at 10 is going go be DL most likely. Fix the OL in FA so you dont have to draft an OL out of need. If they are in your highest BPA tier then fine draft one at 10.

You can’t “fix” the OL in free agency. You can get a couple good players maybe. But “fixing” this requires drafting players and developing them.

Right. It seems like we've been playing this game for years. Free agency has never been a guarantee, no matter how much money we're willing to spend. Whether it's possibly going for the wrong guy, or the right guy choosing to go someplace else.

It's time to start building both lines via the draft. Then supplementing via FA if possible.

 

[baredown]

The narrative that there are only two OTs worth taking in the top half of rd. 1 seems to be disappearing as the end-of-season evaluations roll in. Both Brugler and Jeremiah have Membou now going at #11. Brugler has the Bears taking Simmons at #10. They both have Banks down a bit into the mid-first. And Conerly seems to be moving up pretty rapidly toward the mid-first as well. Not saying the Bears shouldn’t go DL at #10 if that’s where the value is. But when April finally gets here, I suspect the Bears will have OT options at #10 that are worthy of being picked there.

Side comment - if Campbell is still on the board at #10, the Bears should run the card in. He’s the best OL guy in this class. It’s not close. Don’t care if he ends up inside…

 

[DC]

This board is right on. Offensive line and defensive front 7. Tyler Scott will match KA’s production next year if we overhaul the talent AND the coaching .

You don’t need generational players at the skill positions with a good coach, great QB and good offensive line.

Build the trenches.

 

[Xplosive]

Nobody knows exactly how the draft will go. Assuming the top two OL players, Will Cambell and Kelvin Banks, are gone-a real possibility- how do you draft in the first 3 rounds? Do you reach for an OG or OT who is probably going to be there in the 2nd or 3rd rounds anyway, or do you go for the BPA?

And if so, who do you think will be available to pick?

DE or DT in the first and then whatever you didn't get in free agency for the next rounds.

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

We were all excited with shiny new toy odunze last season but prob should have drafted verse. At ten this year again faced with some pretty good pass rushers available I say grab one of them instead of a guard

 

[Chicago Staleys]

We were all excited with shiny new toy odunze last season but prob should have drafted verse. At ten this year again faced with some pretty good pass rushers available I say grab one of them instead of a guard

FA will determine if they go Oline or pass rusher with #10

 

[playthrough2001]

We were all excited with shiny new toy odunze last season but prob should have drafted verse. At ten this year again faced with some pretty good pass rushers available I say grab one of them instead of a guard

I was definitely on the Odunze train but I advocated quite a bit for Verse too. I thought he’d be a great bookend for Sweat. The board seemed split on him but I thought his power game would translate even as a rookie. That dude can bull rush. I made this statement pre-draft among others regarding Verse. Quote in orange…

“Verse is so similar to Sweat it’s kind of crazy. They would make great bookends. Verse is long and powerful. He plays the run tough. It gives you two guys that set a hard edge and can get around a tackle or push him straight back into the QB.

Verse has a couple of highlights where he bull rushes the OT into the QB and knocks them both to the ground.”

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4 QB 3 WR 1OT scenario

 

[DB012031]

It's changing everywhere daily atm. I mean some people think Banks will be a guard. Some say Simmons has better potential than either Banks or Campbell. Right now the NFL.com mock has us taking Tyler Booker the guard at 10 with Banks and Simmons still on the board. We'll learn a lot more at the combine but it seems there are valid options at 10 even if a couple are taken before we pick. We need to fix the OL and do it so we have talent coming in for the future.

As much as I hate Ohio State (Michigan guy here) after watching for the past couple of years, Simmons from Ohio State is arguably the best LT available and had he not gotten hurt earlier this season, he would have been the sure fire 1st linemen off the board on offense (Mason Graham is going top 5 as well as the #1 defensive linemen).

The issue with the Bears is how does Ben Johnson and Poles feel about Braxton Jones...If they truely believe he is the guy for the next 5 years, then the Bears are most likely going D-line with the #10 pick and the interior O Line with at least 1 of the 2 second round picks.

If they do NOT believe Braxton Jones is the guy, then I can see a world where they trade him for a 3rd/4th round pick and go LT (Simmons, IMO, is still the guy) at #10, D-line with one of the two second round picks and then probably another interior lineman with the other 2nd round pick.

The Bears entire draft strategy for the first 4 picks will be centered around what the new staff thinks about Braxton Jones.

I am sorry but ANY talk about Alshon Jeanty at #10 is absolutely tone deaf and frankly stupid. If we pick a RB at #10, Poles should be fired before he puts the phone down. Our trenches are straight trash with minimal exceptions (Wright, Dexter and Sweat), drafting a skill position player would be criminal at 10. And before anyone says "But see what Detroit did with Gibbs" please remember that was a luxury pick because their O-line was already one of the best in the league at that point.

 

[legendxofxlink]

Commanders starting LT was picked in the 3rd round. Y’all quit acting like OT or bust at 10. If you could tell me I could get Verse production at that pick from a DE available, I’m running to the podium.

 

[Xplosive]

The narrative that there are only two OTs worth taking in the top half of rd. 1 seems to be disappearing as the end-of-season evaluations roll in. Both Brugler and Jeremiah have Membou now going at #11. Brugler has the Bears taking Simmons at #10. They both have Banks down a bit into the mid-first. And Conerly seems to be moving up pretty rapidly toward the mid-first as well. Not saying the Bears shouldn’t go DL at #10 if that’s where the value is. But when April finally gets here, I suspect the Bears will have OT options at #10 that are worthy of being picked there.

Side comment - if Campbell is still on the board at #10, the Bears should run the card in. He’s the best OL guy in this class. It’s not close. Don’t care if he ends up inside…

Cambell is a bit overrated, he's very grabby with erratic hand placement and short arms. He should be moved inside. Membou is a right tackle, Simmons has medical red flags...

Banks is the best LT at #10 any other OL is a reach.

 

[msadows]

Give me Graham or Carter

This, and if neither slip I say trade down to the late teens, pick up another 2nd and draft Tyler booker/Simmons

If you want to trade up again into the first for another player than you can do so with the 3 2nd's and a 3rd.

 

[msadows]

Commanders starting LT was picked in the 3rd round. Y’all quit acting like OT or bust at 10. If you could tell me I could get Verse production at that pick from a DE available, I’m running to the podium.

Braxton Jones 100% will outperform any of these top "tackles" in the draft this year.

Rookie tackles usually struggle, even the great ones. I expect the commanders guy to get beat like a drum today too vs. Sweat and nolan

 

[msadows]

The narrative that there are only two OTs worth taking in the top half of rd. 1 seems to be disappearing as the end-of-season evaluations roll in. Both Brugler and Jeremiah have Membou now going at #11. Brugler has the Bears taking Simmons at #10. They both have Banks down a bit into the mid-first. And Conerly seems to be moving up pretty rapidly toward the mid-first as well. Not saying the Bears shouldn’t go DL at #10 if that’s where the value is. But when April finally gets here, I suspect the Bears will have OT options at #10 that are worthy of being picked there.

Side comment - if Campbell is still on the board at #10, the Bears should run the card in. He’s the best OL guy in this class. It’s not close. Don’t care if he ends up inside…

This campbell guy got beat by every top flight Edge I saw watched him play against. His tape against verse was ugly.

 

[MikeDitkaPolishSausage]

Commanders starting LT was picked in the 3rd round. Y’all quit acting like OT or bust at 10. If you could tell me I could get Verse production at that pick from a DE available, I’m running to the podium.

I think it obviously depends on how FA plays out. However with Johnson as HC, the offensive will be focus #1.

 

[remydat]

Right. It seems like we've been playing this game for years. Free agency has never been a guarantee, no matter how much money we're willing to spend. Whether it's possibly going for the wrong guy, or the right guy choosing to go someplace else.

It's time to start building both lines via the draft. Then supplementing via FA if possible.

The draft is no gurantee either. We are building the lines through the draft. We drafted our 2 starting Ts and I suggested we draft an OL in the 2nd. So that is 3 possible starters on the OL which is the same as the Lions and Chiefs.