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Serious question... would a woman be allowed to be signed by an NFL team if there was serious interest?
Serious question... would a woman be allowed to be signed by an NFL team if there was serious interest?
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People complain about the Bears kicking "circus".....then they suggest this.
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There was a time when I think a woman could play in the NFL if she was physically capable, but at this time I wouldn't recommend any team that wants to win to do it. We live in a media frenzied world, and there is no way for a woman to play for a team without it causing a distraction or affecting morale. If a kicking competition whirls up this much media attention, imagine what having the first female NFL player would be like?
- You'd have all kinds of additional news outlets covering you besides the usual sports journalist. They will all be looking for things to support their narrative. Reporters from every political, religious, social view will be there to put their spin on things.
- When the lady gets her first "Welcome to the NFL moment", every media outlet from the lone blogger to news conglomerates will comment on it ad nauseum. It'll make Joe Thiessman's injury look like a blip.
- Since she won't be sharing a locker room, there's going to be all kinds of commentary about it ranging from team cohesion to a player feeling left out. And you know there will be a memoir, so it can be a distraction long after the player stopped playing.
- Putting a lone female with a bunch of testosterone charged men will inevitably result in a misunderstanding or worse. And the media will be right around the corner to pounce on it and blow it up.
- The poor girl is going to have to put up with stuff that no other football player will, because the media won't be able to help but comment on everything about her from her relationships to what color lipstick she decided to wear.
- The media won't be able to help to comment on her being cut, her salary, her evaluation process, her future prospects, etc. even if her skills relegate her to 3rd string kicker.
- And what if she became pregnant during her tenure with the team? That is a logistical issue the NFL never dealt with, and you know that it will be a media centerpiece for the entire season.
Now maybe if you're a team that wants media attention for all the wrong reasons, then it might not be a bad idea. But, if you're a team that want to focus on football, then it's a terrible idea.
- You'd have all kinds of additional news outlets covering you besides the usual sports journalist. They will all be looking for things to support their narrative. Reporters from every political, religious, social view will be there to put their spin on things.
- When the lady gets her first "Welcome to the NFL moment", every media outlet from the lone blogger to news conglomerates will comment on it ad nauseum. It'll make Joe Thiessman's injury look like a blip.
- Since she won't be sharing a locker room, there's going to be all kinds of commentary about it ranging from team cohesion to a player feeling left out. And you know there will be a memoir, so it can be a distraction long after the player stopped playing.
- Putting a lone female with a bunch of testosterone charged men will inevitably result in a misunderstanding or worse. And the media will be right around the corner to pounce on it and blow it up.
- The poor girl is going to have to put up with stuff that no other football player will, because the media won't be able to help but comment on everything about her from her relationships to what color lipstick she decided to wear.
- The media won't be able to help to comment on her being cut, her salary, her evaluation process, her future prospects, etc. even if her skills relegate her to 3rd string kicker.
- And what if she became pregnant during her tenure with the team? That is a logistical issue the NFL never dealt with, and you know that it will be a media centerpiece for the entire season.
Now maybe if you're a team that wants media attention for all the wrong reasons, then it might not be a bad idea. But, if you're a team that want to focus on football, then it's a terrible idea.
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Of course. Why wouldn’t she be? They let a weak-ass bitch like Parkey sign a contract.
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Extremely similar things were said when black people were trying to break into major professional sports.
-Huge distraction.
-But they’re different—What if there’s a misunderstanding or worse!
-The media will be in the can for them.
-Put a lone black dude with a bunch of white guys, who knows what could happen!?!?
Point being, fuck, man—If a person can play, they can play, whether they’re black, white or yellow, man or woman.
Carly Lloyd is not going to play professional football. She’s just not the right athlete for it. She’s too old. And she’s got no experience.
But gentlemen, it will happen one day. We have female position players playing college football now. Only a matter of time before some super athletic freak of a woman (not in a bad way) makes it clear she belongs with the big boys.
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I see where you're going with this, but I do not compare gender inequality issues with racial inequality issues. There's many scientific, societal, and historical factors that make them quite distinct topics with distinct issues. Since this is a discussion about football, I'll leave it at that.
In any case, whether it's right or wrong,success or failure, it will come along with much distraction and frenzy. It will affect a team. The spread and influence of the media is unprecedented in this day and age.
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I hear Pele is available.
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No problem. Kickers don't even need to shower.
On a more serious note, of course they'd be allowed. The problem is that the top fraction of 1% of men is clearly physically superior to the top fraction of 1% of women and why they participate in different leagues. There's definitely some crossover between the sexes but goes away when we are discussing the elite of elites. Kicker may be an exception and why it gets discussed and I'm sure some women can tackle as well as some current place kickers. Problem is that there's probably a man that can kick it further and just as accurately once you have an unlimited # of applicants as opposed to a high school or college that can only pick from their student body.
In this case there's likely a male soccer player that can do what she did from 10 yards further away.
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Glad we didnt give up a 5th for Vedvik. Just missed a 40 yarder near the end of the half that would have given the Vikes the lead...
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Cousins looked bad.
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Vedvik just missed his 2nd attempt as well but this one was from 54 yards and was wide right.
0 for 2 and a 5th round pick.
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Vikings reporters saying that he was brought in to be the punter and not kicker
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Not buying it. You don’t trade a 5th round pick for a punter.
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I don't think you should trade an unconditional 5th rounder for either a punter or a kicker. The Vikings appear to have panicked a bit to acquire Vedvik with no real plan on how they intended to use him.
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Especially a kicker who’s never kicked in a NFL game.
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The part that I legitimately don't understand now in this Bears kicker ordeal is why people, especially media types, seem convinced that the Bears will not give a chance to Pineiro in the regular season. They cite the fact that Pineiro has not kicked a 'real' FG in the regular season yet and then they suggest a replacement (Vedvik at one time, Slye, etc) that also has zero regular season experience. Why would the Bears invest all that time and research that included Pineiro and then just throw it all away for a different unproven guy that they have no data on.
And as far as veteran kickers go, for the most part, they are unsigned for reasons. There appear to be several teams with kicking issues right now...and none of them are looking at those veterans. That seems rather telling to me how the league views them.
I believe that most of the Bears beat writers and national media still bitching about the Bears kicking situation convinced themselves that the Bears would find a way to bring back Gould. When that did not happen, they have just decided to complain about whatever decision the Bears made regardless of what that decision was.
And as far as veteran kickers go, for the most part, they are unsigned for reasons. There appear to be several teams with kicking issues right now...and none of them are looking at those veterans. That seems rather telling to me how the league views them.
I believe that most of the Bears beat writers and national media still bitching about the Bears kicking situation convinced themselves that the Bears would find a way to bring back Gould. When that did not happen, they have just decided to complain about whatever decision the Bears made regardless of what that decision was.
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