Emma: Ranking the Bear's Best Options at QB

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That's because his decision making really isn't that impressive on some of the TD's.

His accuracy is a different story but very rarely does the guy make multiple reads. A lot of the time he is just throwing to his first read and if it's not open sometimes he just throws it anyway.

Now if I had the time to look at all 41 TD's we could talk accuracy but the offense he comes from is far from complex decision making...and he still makes the most bad ones out of the top 3 prospects.

You're making excuses to write off his good play.
 

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That's because his decision making really isn't that impressive on some of the TD's.

His accuracy is a different story but very rarely does the guy make multiple reads. A lot of the time he is just throwing to his first read and if it's not open sometimes he just throws it anyway.

Now if I had the time to look at all 41 TD's we could talk accuracy but the offense he comes from is far from complex decision making...and he still makes the most bad ones out of the top 3 prospects.

The Clemson offense is built on pre-snap reads so what the above fails to consider is that the reason why Watson is throwing to his first read a lot is because he has correctly diagnosed the coverage. Like do you expect him after diagnosing the coverage correctly and understanding where he needs to go with the ball to decide to scan the field just cus even when his guy is open or he has the one on one look he is looking for?

The below is from an Ohio State fan.

http://theozone.net/Ohio-State/Foot...uddle-Breakdown-Defending-the-Clemson-Offense

And here is an example of Watson running the same empty set 5 different times and as the above notes, he's changing what he does based on him reading what the defense is doing.

https://www.krossover.com/articles/breaking-down-clemson-offense-empty-attack/

And here is an SEC blog breaking down how as the game progressed Watson started to figure out Bama's defense despite all the looks Bama was throwing at him.

https://www.seccountry.com/alabama/film-room-alabama-clemson-breakdown-deshaun-watson

The whole point of running spread concepts which most college teams do and which most teams in the NFL do as well is to assist the QB in diagnosing coverage concepts. New England did this to great effect in the Super Bowl and in general as the Pats run the vast majority of their plays out of spread concepts in an uptempo offense. New England likes to run the same play over and over just out of different formations and with enough tempo that it doesn't give defenses time to adjust.

The distinction here is that the talent gap in college is such that Watson didn't usually have to go to his other reads because once he diagnosed the coverage correctly and knew where he was suppose to go with the ball, his first read was generally open.

In the NFL, he will find that to not be the case as frequently as it was in college so he will have to progress through his reads. That is true of just about anyone running spread concepts in college which is pretty much most top prospects.

And the Bears offense using a lot of spread concept as well. Against Houston 26 of Cutlers 29 pass attempts came out of the Shotgun. So I don't know where people get this idea that the NFL is not pretty much built on spread concepts these days.
 

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I believe FT posted this before a while ago but here is discussion on the Perkins Erhadt offensive system.

http://grantland.com/features/how-t...helped-maintain-dominance-tom-brady-patriots/

The whole idea here is to get your QB to process information quickly and uptempo. This is part of the reason the Pats system is so successful. They can run up tempo no huddle stuff because their offensive terminology is simple and a lot of their plays are the same just run out of different formations and looks and with personnel that can do a lot of different things.

So this this idea that offenses need to be complicated in order to be effective has no basis in reality.
 

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I believe FT posted this before a while ago but here is discussion on the Perkins Erhadt offensive system.

http://grantland.com/features/how-t...helped-maintain-dominance-tom-brady-patriots/

The whole idea here is to get your QB to process information quickly and uptempo. This is part of the reason the Pats system is so successful. They can run up tempo no huddle stuff because their offensive terminology is simple and a lot of their plays are the same just run out of different formations and looks and with personnel that can do a lot of different things.

So this this idea that offenses need to be complicated in order to be effective has no basis in reality.

The actual plays are simple, it's just the mastermind behind when to run them that is genius.
 

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