ESPN not drinking the Kool Aid

[bearsfootball516]

Remember before the 2005 season when that ESPN reporter said he'd eat his laptop if the Bears won the division? Then they did, and he had a laptop shaped cake made and posted video of it being smashed in his face.

 

[Hammer]

O-Line and Trubs are legit questionmarks, plus, it all depends on how much time will offense need to learn the new system.

Outside looking in (if you're not a Bears fan), you have a reason to be sceptical until proven otherwise.

 

[Les Grossman]

O-Line and Trubs are legit questionmarks, plus, it all depends on how much time will offense need to learn the new system.

Outside looking in (if you're not a Bears fan), you have a reason to be sceptical until proven otherwise.

IMO the only question mark about the OL is if it will be really good or not. I think at the worst, our OL is average. It has the potential to be really good.

 

[Monster]

Remember before the 2005 season when that ESPN reporter said he'd eat his laptop if the Bears won the division? Then they did, and he had a laptop shaped cake made and posted video of it being smashed in his face.

Why would they?
This is a prove it on the field sport.

 

[Hammer]

We'll see about that if/when Massie whiffs on couple of sacks, Kush plays bad, Whitehair causes snap fumbles, Long gets injured, Leno as usual gets abused by other team elite pass rusher, etc.

Btw. everyone here is drinking kool-aid aaaaaand I don't like it

 

[nvanprooyen]

Eh. Who cares? I'd rather the media sleeps on this team. If they start winning they will be all over their nuts. If you are into that sort of thing. I just wish we had a few weeks to ease into things vs. playing the Packers week 1. I think they can win, but I'd feel a whole lot better about it if this game was week 3 or 4. The division is going to be rough.

 

[WestCoastBearsFan]

I couldn’t care less what ESPN says. They’re bears hating hacks 6 wins means we we are 1 win better than we were with John Fox. Our offense already should be 2-3 wins better than we were with Fox, not to mention this top 10 defense that now can be top 5.


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[nc0gnet0]

I couldn’t care less what ESPN says. They’re bears hating hacks 6 wins means we we are 1 win better than we were with John Fox. Our offense already should be 2-3 wins better than we were with Fox, not to mention this top 10 defense that now can be top 5.


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Last year ESPN predicted the Bears record at 6-10....how did they do?

2016 they predicted the Bears at 9-7

2015 they predicted the Bears record at 7-9

In each year they have predicted more wins then the Bears eventually won, so how does that translate into Bears hating hacks?

 

[Probie2429]

The Bears have been a joke for so long, they are going to have to earn respect from the pundits and most of the fanbase. Even during the Lovie years, the team was a joke offensively it was hard to take the Bears seriously.

 

[bearmick]

6.8 projected wins.

Defense projected 8th.
Offense projected 26th.

21st team overall.
30th QB overall.

Not sure if this was made before or after the Mack trade. After the Mack trade, I would have the defense around 5th or 6th. The rest is pretty hard to argue against, imo.

 

[WestCoastBearsFan]

Last year ESPN predicted the Bears record at 6-10....how did they do?

2016 they predicted the Bears at 9-7

2015 they predicted the Bears record at 7-9

In each year they have predicted more wins then the Bears eventually won, so how does that translate into Bears hating hacks?

They consistently hate on the bears. I have rarely, if ever, seen ESPN have anything positive to say about the bears. They hated on the Trubisky pick, and now a clear head and shoulders improvement on both sides of the ball AND more importantly head coach, they still have us as a 1 win improvement. The difference between those years and now is we are young, talented, and on the come up and those other years we had nothing offensively


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[Newblood]

Until proven otherwise, why would anyone think the number of wins would increase?

WUT? So when the number of win increases, then you will believe that the number of wins will increase? Solid logic :yep:

 

[nc0gnet0]

They consistently hate on the bears. I have rarely, if ever, seen ESPN have anything positive to say about the bears. They hated on the Trubisky pick, and now a clear head and shoulders improvement on both sides of the ball AND more importantly head coach, they still have us as a 1 win improvement. The difference between those years and now is we are young, talented, and on the come up and those other years we had nothing offensively


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So, even though they consistently predict the Bears win total higher than they achieve, they are Bears haters because it fits your narrative? Have they been wrong in the last three years (other than being overly optimistic, which is a far cry from hating)?

 

[WestCoastBearsFan]

So, even though they consistently predict the Bears win total higher than they achieve, they are Bears haters because it fits your narrative? Have they been wrong in the last three years (other than being overly optimistic, which is a far cry from hating)?

There’s no narrative I’m trying to fit you clearly are ignoring what I’m saying. They predicted a 6 win season this year. We won 5 games last year. John Fox alone cost us the packers game at soldier field with his dumb ass fucking challenge. With Nagy alone we should have already covered a 1 game improvement form last year. Now when you factor in the improved weapons on offense and a HC who knows you actually don’t have to run the ball on 1st and 2nd down we should be like a 3 game improvement. Not to mention a top 10 defense should at least be top 7 this year is maybe good for another win. A 6 win prediction is stupid.


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[nc0gnet0]

There’s no narrative I’m trying to fit you clearly are ignoring what I’m saying. They predicted a 6 win season this year. We won 5 games last year. John Fox alone cost us the packers game at soldier field with his dumb ass fucking challenge. With Nagy alone we should have already covered a 1 game improvement form last year. Now when you factor in the improved weapons on offense and a HC who knows you actually don’t have to run the ball on 1st and 2nd down we should be like a 3 game improvement. Not to mention a top 10 defense should at least be top 7 this year is maybe good for another win. A 6 win prediction is stupid.


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And you don't think ESPN takes those things into account? Are you playing the same teams as last year, and do those teams have the same rosters? Newflash, the answer is no. Your looking at the Bears under a microscope, because you believe you know the Bears better than any ESPN analyst. Maybe you do, but here is the catch that everyone forgets to think about. How well do you know the teams that the Bears play this year? Not very well is my guess. And that is where they have the edge over you in predicting games. All the other crap you posted is just pure speculation on your part, nothing more.

 

[Outlaw Josey Cutler]

http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/24444906/2018-mega-nfl-preview-projecting-1-32-teams-rankings-predictions-breakouts-fantasy-stars#bears

6.8 projected wins.

Defense projected 8th.
Offense projected 26th.

21st team overall.
30th QB overall.

“Their inexperience worries me -- the head coach, some of the offensive staff, the quarterback. That is the biggest question, whether they can get it done in crunch time, trying to make plays against Detroit, Green Bay and Minnesota.”


Anyways..... none of this is really surprising or goes against what people have said. It's all on Trubisky and how he develops. The narrative won't change till the results change on the field. Just thought I'd post because some of you get your jimmies rustled by this stuff.

Interesting. If those rankings hold out true, then either Trubisky or Nagy or both are busts. Well,... unless they start out like shit. Loggains type shit and then from last 6 games or so on they go from 32nd to 25 or so while basically being top ten offense in the last six games.

 

[WestCoastBearsFan]

And you don't think ESPN takes those things into account? Are you playing the same teams as last year, and do those teams have the same rosters? Newflash, the answer is no. Your looking at the Bears under a microscope, because you believe you know the Bears better than any ESPN analyst. Maybe you do, but here is the catch that everyone forgets to think about. How well do you know the teams that the Bears play this year? Not very well is my guess. And that is where they have the edge over you in predicting games. All the other crap you posted is just pure speculation on your part, nothing more.

What’s speculation? That the most important position on a football team, HC, is already an improvement? Or that our offense is better? Well that can’t be speculation when you consider none of our starting WRs last year made a 53 man roster this year. Or how about maybe our defense isn’t all that improved? Well we added the best available defender in the draft and in the pros already so that doesn’t make sense either. And in case you didn’t notice, none of the teams we play this year made as much improvement or just plain personnel change as we did this year. Not one team. I do know the other teams well enough to say that the only teams we play that are definitively better than us are the Rams, Patriots, and maybe Minnesota. The lions are back to being the worst team in the division so theres that too. The packers have a seriously dysfunctional roster everywhere except QB. Same thing with Seattle. Arizona isn’t gonna do much. Miami and buffalo may be the worst teams in football this year. The giants are better but their defense will still be an issue. And the Niners don’t have much on offense except Jimmy G now that McKinnon is hurt.


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[Outlaw Josey Cutler]

WUT? So when the number of win increases, then you will believe that the number of wins will increase? Solid logic :yep:

He was obviously talking about predictions, not summaries of what has happened. His logic is that ESPN (note: not himself) see Nagy and offense as unknowns so Bears will be slotted where they were last year. He is also correct imo.

 

[nc0gnet0]

What’s speculation? That the most important position on a football team, HC, is already an improvement? Or that our offense is better? Well that can’t be speculation when you consider none of our starting WRs last year made a 53 man roster this year. Or how about maybe our defense isn’t all that improved? Well we added the best available defender in the draft and in the pros already so that doesn’t make sense either. And in case you didn’t notice, none of the teams we play this year made as much improvement or just plain personnel change as we did this year. Not one team. I do know the other teams well enough to say that the only teams we play that are definitively better than us are the Rams, Patriots, and maybe Minnesota. The lions are back to being the worst team in the division so theres that too. The packers have a seriously dysfunctional roster everywhere except QB. Same thing with Seattle. Arizona isn’t gonna do much. Miami and buffalo may be the worst teams in football this year. The giants are better but their defense will still be an issue. And the Niners don’t have much on offense except Jimmy G now that McKinnon is hurt.


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What was the Bears division record last year? None of the other teams the Bears play this year made any improvements? Really?

I have the Bears at 7-9, 8-8. Significant injuries could change that for the negative. A few breaks here and there could change it for the positive.

 

[TL1961]

http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/24444906/2018-mega-nfl-preview-projecting-1-32-teams-rankings-predictions-breakouts-fantasy-stars#bears

6.8 projected wins.

Defense projected 8th.
Offense projected 26th.

21st team overall.
30th QB overall.

“Their inexperience worries me -- the head coach, some of the offensive staff, the quarterback. That is the biggest question, whether they can get it done in crunch time, trying to make plays against Detroit, Green Bay and Minnesota.”


Anyways..... none of this is really surprising or goes against what people have said. It's all on Trubisky and how he develops. The narrative won't change till the results change on the field. Just thought I'd post because some of you get your jimmies rustled by this stuff.

I'll bet anyone who wants to bet $ 1,000 right now that the Bears are higher than 26th offensively.