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If nothing else they're trained better.
Ours look like they've never played football before in their lives.
Every Fields sack against Green Bay, for the “geniuses” that are saying that he “held onto the ball to long”
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If nothing else they're trained better.
Ours look like they've never played football before in their lives.
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If the Bears started the season with Love's receivers & TEs, or Stroud's receivers & TEs, the Bears would've been raked over the coals as setting Fields up for failure.
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Note how the JF naysayers avoid the sackage info provided here
This thread is like showing a crucifix to a vampire.
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Pretty much. “Lead a horse to water” or something like that…
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Bears fans have worse tunnel vision than Fields has. If they don't want to believe something they can't see it. If they want to believe it's all they can see.
They probably see O'Sullivan pausing the game to show the oline changing calls, getting mixed up and splitting apart leaving unblocked defenders and all they can see is it's Fields' fault (or any other QB the Bears have) because that's what they want to believe.
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And he's not fired. Not all Chicago Bears offensive coaches fired. Here's who is still around and possible reasons why
I can't even blame talent any more. Yes the interior needs an overhaul but you don't suddenly forget how to play a position because you're old and beat up or young.
This is going back to the same thing as our WRs not getting open and our D not covering coach after coach after coach. How is it possible?
At least our OTs aren't walking defenders back into the QB any more (usually).
Oh, you want to tackle our QB? Here, let me escort you there. Now it's just a free shot through the middle.
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well its really only one of 2 reasons, Poles, Flus are a bunch of morons, OR they all realize its mostly Fields fault. Or maybe both I guess?
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How in the **** is Fields causing the oline to go in 2 separate directions???
You have no clue about football do you?
Do you think he texts his call outs to half and different calls to the other half?
That is on the coach pure and simple. There is no other answer.
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That literally makes no sense. Not only is it circular logic it's not even connected into one circle. It's like a bunch of little unrelated bubbles.
If the oline is on 2 different pages and aren't covering players of course Fields is going to get sacked.
It's like someone calls "Butt blue 32" and half the oline was taught it means 2 different things.
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I'm not talking about a specific play, but the whole year, are you saying every sack that Fields took the online when in 2 different directions? Your reply is strange.
Let me make it simple
Fields was sacked a lot.
The entire offense coaching staff got fired but the OL coach was not.
Why?
Either the OL coach is terrible but Flus is also an idiot and kept him
OR
Most of the OL troubles are caused by Fields so that's why the OL coach was kept .
OR
Both can be true
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Which leads me back to my question, "How in the **** is Fields causing the oline to go in 2 separate directions???" That also wasn't just once but many times a game.
Which in turn points to your bubbled up circular logic.
There is only one possible answer and that is the coach. There is nothing the QB can do to cause that. Fields may have his problems but failure to train the oline what calls mean is not one of them.
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Well if true that ol went in different directions all the time then wouldn't this fall into the OL coach is terrible and flus is a moron for keeping him category? How is that circular logic?
Also that's completely nonsense that it happens all the time and you know it. This is just more excuses in the year of #no more excuses for Fields
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That is not what circular logic is. In fact that is true which is why those of us who actually watch the games and look at break downs are not happy the oline coach stays.
It's not nonsense. Watch O'Sullivan if you don't want to stare at oline during plays.
The excuses are from you trying to blame only one player for a team problem. QBs don't do all the crap "fans" like you want to lay on them. Never has, never will. It's just the easy scapegoat for pea brains like yourself.
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Justin Fields has the highest time to pass in the NFL. He is largely getting sacked because he holds on to the ball too long and doesn't recognize and anticipate players getting open. Yes, the offensive line has had problems too; mainly on the interior but also some rookie growing pains with Wright. But I would also say that the OL coach not getting fired means that the Bears do not feel the majority of the sack issues were their fault. Whether or not the coaches are RIGHT is another story. But that is what they believe otherwise he would have been fired. Not sure why this is so difficult to understand.