FA WR Market Values

[satchice]

I was on Spotrac this morning and noticed that they released some more market values for the Free Agents. Some of them are pretty interesting.

Name / Age / Market Value / Projected Contract
Sammy Watkins / 24 / 5.9M avg / 3 years $17,991,258
Marqise Lee / 26 / 7.5M avg / 4 years $30,007,580
Paul Richardson / 25 / 6.3M avg / 4 years $25,410,164
Allen Robinson / 24 / 13.6M / 5 years $68,060,485
Jarvis Landry / 25 / 13.8M / 5 years $69,013,570

I have been following Spotrac over the last 3 years and I think Spotrac is really good at project market values. If Watkins market value is only 5.9M do you really think the Rams will slap a Franchise tag that in 2017 was worth $15.682 Million? Likely the franchise tag this season will be 10M more than Watkins market value. If we could get Watkins for under 7M I would be interested.

As a huge Landry fan it is also nice to see that 14M avg would be in line with his market value. I thought it was silly that a lot of poster were saying he would only be worth 12M max. I think if he was in the same position he is a better player than Davante Adams. As I have said in multiple threads he should be the Bears #1 FA target regardless of price based on his talent, need, and current draft class.

I think Lee and Richardson are both just guys, like mid to low end #2 WRs. They are both inconsistent and they just remind me of Mike Wallace light. Lee is hands down the better of the two, but I don’t think he will live up to his contract. If we miss out on Landry and Watkins then I think he is the best available. I think Jags will keep Robinson and with the emergence of a younger and cheaper UDFA Cole Keelan makes Robinson expendable. These guys would be solid starters in Chicago but should be thought of as last option emergency bridges that will need to be upgraded, similar to the Wheaton or Royal signings.

 

[Noonthirtyjoe]

Landry would be too good to be true but this whole offseason has been that already. So I see it happening.

 

[dennehy]

You think Allen Robinson is just a guy, or did you mean Richardson?

At those prices Watkins would be a no brainer, but I don't think that will be his price. I also don't think Robinson will get that much coming off an ACL, but you never know.

 

[Luke]

Watkins and Robinson are both rumored to be franchised and Landry will most likely be tagged in some fashion as well. Intelligent organizations don't let talented FA WR's walk. It should really boil down to Lee, Richardson and the rest for Pace to choose from. I would like to see realistic projections for the likes of those two, Wright, Wilson and others that people see as possible signings. Lets not forget that numerous teams need WR help.

 

[Chicago4Life]

the market value numbers are inconsistent...watkins at 6 mill is a dream, moncrief at 10 mill per? john brown at 9 mill?, bradford at 23 mill?

 

[Adipost]

Watkins and Robinson are both rumored to be franchised and Landry will most likely be tagged in some fashion as well. Intelligent organizations don't let talented FA WR's walk. It should really boil down to Lee, Richardson and the rest for Pace to choose from. I would like to see realistic projections for the likes of those two, Wright, Wilson and others that people see as possible signings. Lets not forget that numerous teams need WR help.

I don’t think Watkins or Landry will be franchise tagged.

 

[Luke]

I've seen numerous reports that the rams will, google it. I think the phins would lean towards the transition tag for landry if they cant come to a deal. Of course, that gives the Bears and about 6 other teams the chance to make some crazy deal that they think the phins wont match.

 

[Adipost]

I've seen numerous reports that the rams will, google it. I think the phins would lean towards the transition tag for landry if they cant come to a deal.

The Watkins tag stuff was just speculation from a reporter.

 

[dennehy]

There will also be some cuts. But it's going to be a thin year at WR, no doubt.

 

[Luke]

what isn't speculation at this point, lol. They did give up a 2nd rounder and Gaines who was the 13th best CB last year. Its not impossible to believe that they wont let him hit the open market.

 

[MadOne 77]

I think Jordan Mathews will be the best FA available. He had a down year but he's 6'3 220 and runs a 4.3 and has been productive every year but last. He was be a beast across from Cam and then throw in a burner to stretch the field from the slot position. That would would be a solid WR Corp.

 

[satchice]

You think Allen Robinson is just a guy, or did you mean Richardson?

At those prices Watkins would be a no brainer, but I don't think that will be his price. I also don't think Robinson will get that much coming off an ACL, but you never know.

You are right I meant Richardson I fixed it.. Robinson is a very High risk high reward player. He is a #1 WR and before this year he never missed a regular season game. I don't think there is a chance that he hit FA .

The only thing to note is currently Jacksonville has 17M in cap. Miami has only 9M and I don't see anyway they are going to be able to afford Landry, they are in a horrible cap situation. They have 131M in dead cap that is ridicoulous.

 

[r1terrell23]

If Watkins market value is 6 million we'd have to pay him 10 million to leave LA. Great city, weather, established qb, great RB, very good defense, new stadium, etc.

 

[lurker]

The dolphins have some work to do if they want to keep Landry. Starting with Suh, who is a $26.1 mil cap hit this year. They signed him to a huge contract in '16 and have already adjusted his contract once. They also are decently deep at the wr position.

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[Wild_x_Card]

I think Jordan Mathews will be the best FA available. He had a down year but he's 6'3 220 and runs a 4.3 and has been productive every year but last. He was be a beast across from Cam and then throw in a burner to stretch the field from the slot position. That would would be a solid WR Corp.

Mathews has never been a beast, even at his most productive state. He also doesn't show 4.3 speed on the field. He can be productive but he's no game changer.

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

Don’t fight the gurus they want their narrative to come true despite the facts Landry would be a stud addition to a hapless offense

 

[dennehy]

Matthews is a lot like Meredith imo. Very similar skill set. He's definitely under the radar right now, has been pretty productive. Solid #2 but not someone who is going to force the defense to change.

 

[dennehy]

Miami will probably cut Wake and Julius Thomas to free up about $15mil. Still not a lot of cap space, though, unless the cap number is significantly higher than what's being projected.

 

[Mdbearz]

And then we have an argument in another thread that we should not take a Calvin Ridley at #8.

So for me, I would say if Ridley really is not worth the #8 pick then you pay Landry, and you take a WR later in the draft that fits what Nagy wants in a WR and hope you can develop him.

We need WRs to make the offense run, and what we have on the roster right now is not going to cut it.

I would like to see Landry, Wright, Inmann, and Meredith/White. They have Gentry on a futures contract so him and draft a WR in the 2nd/3rd for the future.

I think Nagy is going to use the crap out of Shaheen and Cohen but you still need the WR group capable of giving you reliable yardage, and that does not include a rookie or an often injured player.

Wheaton is under contract, but I'm just not sure he stays on the roster, he is more valuable cut and giving us cap space.

 

[Zvbxrpl]

Ehhh take it with a grain of salt. These numbers are just "ideal" projections by fans of the game who like the numbers side of things too much. Teams who want WRs will pay out the ass for them.

Sammy Watkins will get more than 5.9 mil per year average, and the Rams are walking into the offseason pre-cuts with 52 million in salary cap space. He's not going anywhere unless he does something incredibly stupid or the Rams decide to move on--which its been well reported the antithesis of that. Point blank, they want to keep him, and if you think otherwise--you're an idiot. Teams don't give up a 2nd round draft pick for a 1 year rental player like that, and their GM should be fired if he does let him walk. I expect the tag on him, and not soon enough so dumbass fans on this board can get a dose of reality that other teams want to keep their play-makers too and win, not just let them walk to the bears for next to nothing.

Or you could be dezbears and think Robert Woods is their future #1....

Allen Robinson may get that one year "prove it" deal. I can see him betting on himself. If he can get more or a big deal, good for him. I don't think the market will come after him with an open wallet though.

Jarvis Landry is a pipe dream too. I'll be very surprised if Miami lets him hit the open market, amid their tight cap situation. Just under 6 million in cap space at the moment, but a couple cuts like Julius Thomas (useless 6.6 million), Ja'Waun James (presumed career threatening injury and 9.2 mil), and Lawrence Timmons (grossly underperforming saving 5.75 mil) and they just opened close over 20 million additionally in cap space And if he does hit the market, a ton of teams will bid on him, giving him the upper hand. He's a great talent, but he's not worth Demaryius Thomas kind of money or more AND convincing that Chicago should be his prime years' destination.

Paul Richardson intrigues me the most. He's better than any bears WR and probably wont cost double digit millions per year. He's clearly a #2 guy, and I see him in the right situation putting up numbers like Marvin Jones, which I'd welcome here. And while I hate Pete Carroll, I love that he coaches all of his WRs to be aggressive right back with DBs at the LOS. Tate, Kearse, Richardson, Baldwin, and Lockett may not be true #1 WRs or elite by any standards, but they're efficient, effective, and don't get bullied at the LOS by opposing DBs.

Richardson is the most realistic to hit the market on this list. The seahawks sit with 17 mil in cap space and Sheldon Richardson to resign, because like with Watkins; I don't expect a team to give up Jermaine Kearse and a 2nd round pick for a young talent in the name of being a rental player. I also see Seattle blowing it up because their window, for now--appears closed or just about, but regardless of whether they blow it up or not, like Watkins--its been well reported Sheldon Richardson is a priority to the Seahawks' offseason.

Lee is too vastly inconsistent for my tastes. With his targets, catches, and stats, I cant help but just say 'meh.' He's the ideal #3 receiver, not a #2 or #1, although a desperate team will pay him like a #2, and IMO he'd under-perform and be a bad contract. The sad part is short of Meredith if he can come back 100%, he's better than what the bears have.