FBI invades collector's home

[Hbkrusso]

It didnt

that was actually a lame joke throwback to oj

 

[Nail Polish]

aaaah...gotcha..There was actually talk that mama was gonna sue, but I guess someone talked sense into her after the embarrassing defeat in criminal court

 

[Nail Polish]

So you post the definition of guilty and still miss the fact it doesn't have to be thought of in simply legal terms. How is this possible? All this time you've been acting like it's a word that can only be used if you were actually found guilty in a court of law yet the definition you post doesn't even say that and still you remain clueless.

Let me give you some simple examples. If you crash your wife's car, you will forever be guilty of crashing her car cause you did it and are responsible for it. You may never go to court for it to be found guilty by a court of law but you are still obviously guilty of it cause you know damn well you did it. Now look at the definition you posted and you'll see it doesn't require a court verdict to be called guilty.

guilty adjective \ˈgil-tē\
: responsible for committing a crime or doing something bad or wrong

The definition merely says you are responsible for committing a crime. Nowhere does it say it has to be legally proven or simply a verdict handed down. It doesn't even have to necessarily be a crime, it could just be something you did and therefor are responsible and guilty of doing so. ie, if you take the last cookie out of the cookie jar, you are guilty of taking it. You won't be going to court to have a jury rule that you are guilty but it is still fact that you did take that cookie and are guity of doing so, you fat ****.

Legal terms is what we go by here in the USA..If a man is found NG,he is considered NG

I have told you this maybe 25 times in this thread alone, and maybe another 100 times over at the old CBMB

Maybe one day it will sink into your head that Zimmerman was tried and found Not Guilty..Therefore, he IS Not Guilty

Unless you can find me a credible site somewhere that says he was actually convicted in criminal court, then he is to be considered..

NOT GUILTY!

Thats how the justice system here in America works.

There were 12 members on the jury and every one of them said he was...

You guessed it...


NOT GUILTY

 

[Nail Polish]

Spartan


Just in case you forgot already


Zimmerman was found..


NOT

GUILTY

 

[Nail Polish]

Hey Spartan


Did you know that Zimmerman was tried in a courtroom, and found to be....


NOT

GUILTY?

Not that he was ever considered guilty...In America we are NOT GUILTY till we are tried and convicted which he wasn't


Therefore, he is...


NOT

GUILTY

 

[Nail Polish]

Spartan trying to convince the world that Zimmerman is guilty





[video=youtube;_hG2OnrIm2M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hG2OnrIm2M[/video]

 

[Warrior Spirit]

Legal terms is what we go by here in the USA..If a man is found NG,he is considered NG

I have told you this maybe 25 times in this thread alone, and maybe another 100 times over at the old CBMB

Maybe one day it will sink into your head that Zimmerman was tried and found Not Guilty..Therefore, he IS Not Guilty

Unless you can find me a credible site somewhere that says he was actually convicted in criminal court, then he is to be considered..

NOT GUILTY!

Thats how the justice system here in America works.

There were 12 members on the jury and every one of them said he was...

You guessed it...


NOT GUILTY

As I've explained numerous times, the word guilty is not dependent on the findings of a jury. I deal in reality, not the perceptions of the stupid. They're stupid, you're stupid, the whole justice system is stupid. Fact is he did it with malice and will forever be guilty. He'll carry his guilt to his grave, a trip that should come soon.

 

[Nail Polish]

What you are TRYING to say, is that you THINK he is guilty...THATS YOUR OPINION..You are entitled to that.

BUT GEORGE ZIMMERMAN IS NOT GUILTY.He was tried and found to be NOT GUILTY, therefore he IS NOT GUILTY

He can NEVER be found guilty of whatever he was charged with as a result of killing Martin.. Its OVER..He is NOT GUILTY!

 

[Warrior Spirit]

What you are TRYING to say, is that you THINK he is guilty...THATS YOUR OPINION..You are entitled to that.

BUT GEORGE ZIMMERMAN IS NOT GUILTY.He was tried and found to be NOT GUILTY, therefore he IS NOT GUILTY

He can NEVER be found guilty of whatever he was charged with as a result of killing Martin.. Its OVER..He is NOT GUILTY!

Some things are more obvious than others. What you fail to see is just because someone is found not guilty in court, that does not mean you can go back in time and just make it so it never happened. You're stuck on stupid here. If you kill someone, you know you did it. If you can fool a jury into believing you didn't kill them then they'll say you're not guilty but you are still guilty in reality cause you know you killed that person and nothing can ever change that fact.

 

[SiDe WaYs]

Some things are more obvious than others. What you fail to see is just because someone is found not guilty in court, that does not mean you can go back in time and just make it so it never happened. You're stuck on stupid here. If you kill someone, you know you did it. If you can fool a jury into believing you didn't kill them then they'll say you're not guilty but you are still guilty in reality cause you know you killed that person and nothing can ever change that fact.

In the justice system he is not guilty. In the opinions of others he is guilty. I get what Spartans saying. Zimmerman is a douche bag and got away with murder just like OJ Simpson. That's life. Time to move on. You both are starting to sound like women. Bringing up the past and shit.

 

[Urblock]

I'm not a woman but if I was that might offend me. Maybe. Not sure. Yeah maybe.

 

[airtime143]

aaaah...gotcha..There was actually talk that mama was gonna sue, but I guess someone talked sense into her after the embarrassing defeat in criminal court

Just because it has not happened does not mean that it will not, and I would bet there are a lot of legal professionals looking at ways to approach it.

The Goldmans civil suit of OJ did not start until over a year after the not guilty verdict, and the Goldmans had more means to persue the case than Martins' mother does.


The Goldmans civil case completely overturned the criminal case findings- where he was found not guilty of the killings.
One would think that it would be far easier to prove malicious intent and assess a degree of responsibility towards Zimmerman in a civil trail, as opposed to the constraints of a criminal trial where not only does the state need to prove 100% responsibility, they need to do so beyond a shadow of a doubt.


So- Do you stand by the OJ verdict of "Not guilty"?
If so, good for you. You are consistent.
If not, and you cite the OJ civil case as the reason why, then you should probably withhold your opinions on the Zimmerman case until we see if the civil trial changes things.

 

[Warrior Spirit]

In the justice system he is not guilty. In the opinions of others he is guilty. I get what Spartans saying. Zimmerman is a douche bag and got away with murder just like OJ Simpson. That's life. Time to move on. You both are starting to sound like women. Bringing up the past and shit.

I do not care if the justice system says guilty or not. I'm just saying that, in itself, does not make it so. Fact trumps jury decision or opinion. Once you do something, you will forever be guilty of it no matter what any jury says.

 

[SiDe WaYs]

I do not care if the justice system says guilty or not. I'm just saying that, in itself, does not make it so. Fact trumps jury decision or opinion. Once you do something, you will forever be guilty of it no matter what any jury says.

No, I totally understand what you are saying. He will live with the guilt forever because he still killed a teenager. But the justice system fucked this all up and he is a free man.

 

[airtime143]

I do not care if the justice system says guilty or not. I'm just saying that, in itself, does not make it so. Fact trumps jury decision or opinion. Once you do something, you will forever be guilty of it no matter what any jury says.

He is factually "guilty" of taking another persons life.
He is factually "guilty" of escalating a situation that should not have been escalated.
He is factually "guilty" being so afraid of a child that he felt stalking, and when confronting him and realizing he was in over his head, using lethal force on a child.

He was a wanna be rambo that shit his pants and panicked when he realized that he was not a badass, and had to kill a kid because at heart Zimmerman was an epic pussy.

Lucky enough for him, although he was definitely guilty of all of the above, the court found him not criminally guilty.


But I get what you mean. and I agree.

 

[Nail Polish]

No, I totally understand what you are saying. He will live with the guilt forever because he still killed a teenager. But the justice system fucked this all up and he is a free man.

The justice system didnt **** up...They appointed a special prosecutor with all the trimmings (investigators etc) to try and find something to convict him on..They couldn't find anything because there was nothing. The justice system didnt **** up, if anything it worked perfectly...You cant convict a guy just cauese you read a lot of shit on the internet that didnt pertain to the case at hand..

Are you saying that 12 jurors that heard every bit of evidence the state had to offer got it wrong, and you who only heard bits and pieces from the internet got it right?

Here was the prosecutors problem in presenting this case

1..They had no evidence

It's just that simple

 

[Nail Polish]

Just because it has not happened does not mean that it will not, and I would bet there are a lot of legal professionals looking at ways to approach it.

They had better hurry, cause time is running out, and any evidence they could use has been brought forward already, so there are no surprises

The Goldmans civil suit of OJ did not start until over a year after the not guilty verdict, and the Goldmans had more means to persue the case than Martins' mother does.


The Goldmans civil case completely overturned the criminal case findings- where he was found not guilty of the killings.
One would think that it would be far easier to prove malicious intent and assess a degree of responsibility towards Zimmerman in a civil trail, as opposed to the constraints of a criminal trial where not only does the state need to prove 100% responsibility, they need to do so beyond a shadow of a doubt.


So- Do you stand by the OJ verdict of "Not guilty"?
If so, good for you. You are consistent.
If not, and you cite the OJ civil case as the reason why, then you should probably withhold your opinions on the Zimmerman case until we see if the civil trial changes things.

I do stand by OJ's verdict..I have an opinion that I think he did it, but he is NOT GUILTY..Just like Zimmerman is

 

[Nail Polish]

Some things are more obvious than others. What you fail to see is just because someone is found not guilty in court, that does not mean you can go back in time and just make it so it never happened. You're stuck on stupid here. If you kill someone, you know you did it. If you can fool a jury into believing you didn't kill them then they'll say you're not guilty but you are still guilty in reality cause you know you killed that person and nothing can ever change that fact.

I never said it didnt happen..I said...

(for the 50th time)


Zimmerman is not guilty...That is indisputable

The jury heard ALL the evidence(or lack thereof)...You heard innuendo's and character assassinations from the internet

How anyone can dispute that he is not guilty is beyond me


1..He was found not guilty in a trial

2..No Civil suit was brought for lack of evidence

3..The justice dept under immense pressure from some sections of the public did not prosecute on a federal level


WTF more do you need??

We cant convict a guy just cause you THINK he did it

 

[Nail Polish]

He is factually "guilty" of taking another persons life.
He is factually "guilty" of escalating a situation that should not have been escalated.
He is factually "guilty" being so afraid of a child that he felt stalking, and when confronting him and realizing he was in over his head, using lethal force on a child.

He was a wanna be rambo that shit his pants and panicked when he realized that he was not a badass, and had to kill a kid because at heart Zimmerman was an epic pussy.

Lucky enough for him, although he was definitely guilty of all of the above, the court found him not criminally guilty.


But I get what you mean. and I agree.

Unfortunately, all you say he is guilty of isnt a crime

 

[xer0h0ur]

Someone got baited hard up in hurr