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[remydat]

well I was replying to what Bearly said with talking about the pressure from a D, as in opposing D pressure to sack you. Unless I'm misunderstanding what he was saying he was under then impression that was the pressure you where talking about. And thats not what you where talking about, you where talking about the Bears D taking pressure off of the Offense because they need to score less points.

Also the only logical definition based on your link is actually internal pressure and not external.

Your link lists external pressure as..
External pressure occurs when you feel coerced by external forces, like fear of punishment or obsession with attaining rewards, to do your job a certain way.

Hmm that definition does not fit with what the Bears D was doing. How does the Bears D have anyting to do with "punishment" for the offense?

The other definition is..

Internal pressure exists when your performance at work is driven by feelings of obligation, instead of excitement. Internal pressure can make successes and failures feel like reflections of your worth.

So thanks to the Bears D his "obligation" is less (has to score less points)..

Sorry Remy based on your statment "vastly 0superior D that took loads of pressure off of him" the only logical conclusion of that statment is internal pressure..

Sorry Remy your attempt to vortex has failed again

Nope it is external pressure because the expectation is he will have to score more in order to win. There are ample articles written that are for example saying Fields needs to learn to win. If the D was only giving up 17.7 points those articles would not be written because we would be 8-3 as we would have beaten Vikes, Cowboys, Dolphins, Lions and Falcons. So the perception he has to learn how to win is driven by the shitty D causing him to have to put up 30 points a game to win instead of 20.

You just admitted it as you suggested he was a bust for not delivering early in the season before we lost 8 games but he would have delivered if the D had been as good as the 2018 Bears. So you are part of the external pressure because you are judging him without taking into account the shitty fucking defense that is forcing him to have to score more.

Meanwhile in 2018 you were dickriding Trubisky because the great D meant he was winning without having to put up 30 points a game.

So your whole history shitting on Fields is proof of my claims. You can stupidly hate on him because we are 3-8 now instead of the 8-3 we would be if the D was No 1 in the NFL at 17.7 points per game.

 

[MDB111™]

Yes its when someone misrepresnets, or fabricates someones argument or statement, and then argues against that fabrication.

For instance creating a false argument based on "people where down on Mitch in 2018" when that was never said.

Now that you understand about strawman arguments do you want a lesson on how to quote? you seem to have really fucked that up a bit..

Did you just learn of the strawman argument? It was a cool thing to use on CCS in 2012. Not so much nowadays though.

In any case, i see no evidence of a strawman here in yalls drivel. There's a possible steelman argument that you are engaging in.

You should go and google that one! It'll give ya more to say other than "strawman, strawman, strawman."

 

[dbldrew]

Nope it is external pressure because the expectation is he will have to score more in order to win. There are ample articles written that are for example saying Fields needs to learn to win. If the D was only giving up 17.7 points those articles would not be written because we would be 8-3 as we would have beaten Vikes, Cowboys, Dolphins, Lions and Falcons. So the perception he has to learn how to win is driven by the shitty D causing him to have to put up 30 points a game to win instead of 20.

You just admitted it as you suggested he was a bust for not delivering early in the season before we lost 8 games but he would have delivered if the D had been as good as the 2018 Bears. So you are part of the external pressure because you are judging him without taking into account the shitty fucking defense that is forcing him to have to score more.

Meanwhile in 2018 you were dickriding Trubisky because the great D meant he was winning without having to put up 30 points a game.

So your whole history shitting on Fields is proof of my claims. You can stupidly hate on him because we are 3-8 now instead of the 8-3 we would be if the D was No 1 in the NFL at 17.7 points per game.

sorry but external pressure does not fit the definition that you provided, Our D is not coerceing fields or there is no threat of punishment from our D. You could use external pressure with and opposing D.. as in the "punishment" would be sacks, INT etc..

But again the only logical definition that you provided would be internal pressure..

 

[dbldrew]

Did you just learn of the strawman argument? It was a cool thing to use on CCS in 2012. Not so much nowadays though.

In any case, i see no evidence of a strawman here in yalls drivel. There's a possible steelman argument that you are engaging in.

You should go and google that one! It'll give ya more to say other than "strawman, strawman, strawman."

You seem confused again, If it was "cool to use strawman arguments in 2012 and not so much now" then this post of yours should be directed at Remy, I didnt make a strawman argument. Remy did.

 

[MDB111™]

You seem confused again, If it was "cool to use strawman arguments in 2012 and not so much now" then this post of yours should be directed at Remy, I didnt make a strawman argument. Remy did.

classic steelman argument

 

[DC]

I've watched football for decades and drank the Kool aid.

Hell I denied it was scripted/rigged for years but not anymore.

Guess I'm like a junkie that is weening himself off the junk, just can't quit cold turkey.

In the meantime I'm sharing my thoughts with others who may see things like I do but I'm finding that most people are still hooked on that damn Kool aid.

You should get a pack of markers and stand outside the stadiums like the "Jesus is coming" people. That's your audience, not here.

 

[remydat]

sorry but external pressure does not fit the definition that you provided, Our D is not coerceing fields or there is no threat of punishment from our D. You could use external pressure with and opposing D.. as in the "punishment" would be sacks, INT etc..

But again the only logical definition that you provided would be internal pressure..

You read but dont comprehend. I swear it really is like trying to teach a cave man physics.

Antecedents of interpersonal styles categorized as external pressures were obligations to comply with a curriculum (eg, school, practice), colleagues’ expectations and demands, pressure from others to meet time constraints, pressure to maximize others’ performance via control-inducing statements, administrative pressures, pressure from authorities (eg, supervisors), performance evaluations, and administration of rewards.

External Pressure - an overview | ScienceDirect Topics

www.sciencedirect.com

In the same way time contraints may make it difficult to meet the expectations of others, having a shitty D give up 30 points makes it difficult to meet the expectations others may have of you to win. All of these things are external pressures. They are not necessarily coercing or forcing you in the way you are using the term. It isnt that literal dumbass. A first year college student can grasp this concept

Like at this point there is nothing more to say. You are wrong. A bad D increases pressure. Period end of story. The more you respond the more expose your own ignorance.

 

[dbldrew]

You read but dont comprehend. I swear it really is like trying to teach a cave man physics.

Antecedents of interpersonal styles categorized as external pressures were obligations to comply with a curriculum (eg, school, practice), colleagues’ expectations and demands, pressure from others to meet time constraints, pressure to maximize others’ performance via control-inducing statements, administrative pressures, pressure from authorities (eg, supervisors), performance evaluations, and administration of rewards.

External Pressure - an overview | ScienceDirect Topics

www.sciencedirect.com

In the same way time contraints may make it difficult to meet the expectations of others, having a shitty D give up 30 points makes it difficult to meet the expectations others may have of you to win. All of these things are external pressures. They are not necessarily coercing or forcing you in the way you are using the term. It isnt that literal dumbass. A first year college student can grasp this concept

Like at this point there is nothing more to say. You are wrong. A bad D increases pressure. Period end of story. The more you respond the more expose your own ignorance.

I can comprehend just fine, I had no problem comprehending the definition that you scoured the internet for because you're in full vortex mode did not fit your argument, and now you're at it again.. searching for definitions all because your vortex makes you go insane. I know the difference between internal and external pressure but I found it very amusing that you posted a definition that didnt even work for you.

Here is the thing Remy.. it doesnt matter, your point about pressure was stupid, If we apply that point to external pressure then my counter argument can be applied to external pressure as well.

Mitch Had better passing stats year 2, your "pressure" argument was stupid, defining what pressure you meant, internal vs external does not solve your problem of making a stupid argument. Either "pressure" definition was a stupid argument to make

This is the problem with your vortex, all it does is make you look insane.

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

I can comprehend just fine, I had no problem comprehending the definition that you scoured the internet for because you're in full vortex mode did not fit your argument, and now you're at it again.. searching for definitions all because your vortex makes you go insane. I know the difference between internal and external pressure but I found it very amusing that you posted a definition that didnt even work for you.

Here is the thing Remy.. it doesnt matter, your point about pressure was stupid, If we apply that point to external pressure then my counter argument can be applied to external pressure as well.

Mitch Had better passing stats year 2, your "pressure" argument was stupid, defining what pressure you meant, internal vs external does not solve your problem of making a stupid argument. Either "pressure" definition was a stupid argument to make

This is the problem with your vortex, all it does is make you look insane.

This is now Day 3 of you not getting involved in the vortex lmfao.

 

[dbldrew]

classic steelman argument

Me pointing out you quoted the wrong person is not a steelman argument, Do you need help with the steelman argument definition as well?

 

[dbldrew]

This is now Day 3 of you not getting involved in the vortex lmfao.

never said I wasnt getting involved in the vortex, Just pointing out to him his vortex tactics dont work on me

 

[Hawkeye OG]

never said I wasnt getting involved in the vortex, Just pointing out to him his vortex tactics dont work on me

This would appear to be false

 

[remydat]

I can comprehend just fine, I had no problem comprehending the definition that you scoured the internet for because you're in full vortex mode did not fit your argument, and now you're at it again.. searching for definitions all because your vortex makes you go insane. I know the difference between internal and external pressure but I found it very amusing that you posted a definition that didnt even work for you.

Here is the thing Remy.. it doesnt matter, your point about pressure was stupid, If we apply that point to external pressure then my counter argument can be applied to external pressure as well.

Mitch Had better passing stats year 2, your "pressure" argument was stupid, defining what pressure you meant, internal vs external does not solve your problem of making a stupid argument. Either "pressure" definition was a stupid argument to make

This is the problem with your vortex, all it does is make you look insane.

No you clearly did have a problem because I just provided another article that shows examples similar to the one I gave.

Lol no it is quite stupid to suggest having a bad D does not put pressure on a QB. You also are litetally trying to argue something that Fields own words disputes. You are lost.

 

[HeHateMe]

never said I wasnt getting involved in the vortex, Just pointing out to him his vortex tactics dont work on me

You might want to scroll up a few days.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

never said I wasnt getting involved in the vortex, Just pointing out to him his vortex tactics dont work on me

You're quite the long winded, blowhard moron. Thanks for continuing to be an idiot for everyone's amusement

 

[bamainatlanta]

I’m not remy but I’m jumping in. One Remy never claimed that a 3-8 team has more pressure of making the playoffs, YOU keep saying that. He said that Fields said he puts pressure on himself and that’s definitely true. He’s out here trying to play against the jets while clearly hurt and he also has the pressure of being a great QB.


Only a few meatballs thought Fields was in bust territory and of course you are one of them . Even now you’re calling him one despite all evidence showing he is a special player. You’re bias and refuse to acknowledge it


Of course securing a spot in the playoffs takes pressure off the players but again y’all’s original argument wasn’t about that. It was about Mitch not having to put up that many points because he was on a good team. When it was time for him to step up in the playoffs, he shit the bed and yet you still defended him.


Bottom line is you created this argument and still got beat and it’s embarrassing

He’s also trying to get Mac Jones dick out of his mouth but he keeps putting it back in.

 

[dbldrew]

No you clearly did have a problem because I just provided another article that shows examples similar to the one I gave.

Lol no it is quite stupid to suggest having a bad D does not put pressure on a QB. You also are litetally trying to argue something that Fields own words disputes. You are lost.

More strawman arguments from you. I never said that a bad D does not put pressure on a QB.

I said that year 2 Mitchs stats are better then year 2 Fields, You came up with the stupid "pressure" argument, I think trying to compare what pressures both QBs deal with is a really stupid argument to make when comparing both QBs,

You also know its a stupid argument which is why you went into vortex mode.

Again the definition of internal vs external pressure has nothing to do with year 2 mitches stats and year 2 Fields stats. You are only trying to derail the original point because thats what you do.. Remy I have your number, your vortex wont work

 

[remydat]

More strawman arguments from you. I never said that a bad D does not put pressure on a QB.

I said that year 2 Mitchs stats are better then year 2 Fields, You came up with the stupid "pressure" argument, I think trying to compare what pressures both QBs deal with is a really stupid argument to make when comparing both QBs,

You also know its a stupid argument which is why you went into vortex mode.

Again the definition of internal vs external pressure has nothing to do with year 2 mitches stats and year 2 Fields stats. You are only trying to derail the original point because thats what you do.. Remy I have your number, your vortex wont work

Your point was stupid for the reasons already stated. Trubisky had a better team around him. As a result he did not have to carry the team as Fields does. This is obvious to everyone.

 

[remydat]

He’s also trying to get Mac Jones dick out of his mouth but he keeps putting it back in.

Did Pace pick the wrong QB again?

Is this just another Nail in the "fire Pace" coffin? The 2 Qbs that where on the Board when the Bears moved up was Fields and Mac Jones. Justin Fields SEASON TEAM G GS COMP ATT YDS AVG TD INT SCK SCKY RATE ATT YDS AVG TD FUM LOST 2021 Chicago Bears 7 5 75 131 816 6.2 2 6 22 179 61.8 34 140...

www.chicitysports.com

Wonder if he still thinks Pace picked the wrong QB.

 

[dbldrew]

This would appear to be false

You might want to scroll up a few days.

Nope This is how the Remy vortex works..

You make a statement

Remy replies

You reply back to him saying thats not correct for reason X,Y,Z

Remy realizes reason X,Y,Z ruins his point.

A normal human would do one of 2 things, either say "yeah good point" or at the least drop it and move on, but not Remy, he goes full vortex because he is either trolling or has some weird mental problem

The vortex is just to derail the the original point. He will try create strawman arguments ( @MDB111™ sorry for saying strawman again I know how sensitive you are) he will try and change the subject, anything to move the debate off of what was said.

The key is to not fall for it and keep forcing it back to the original point, with the exception of when he creates an argument that you can poke fun of him about, like when he dove into the whole internal, vs external pressure and then posted a definition that didnt even work for what he was saying. But other then that keep him on track.. 20+ pages later the vortex dies out.