Fields vs Bills Week 2 Review.

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I think he got to his 2nd read a few time or at least was lookin off but ya, same guy. Serviceable in they right setting but not a destination.

Mitch 100% is the same guy. I was joking to my buddy that "thats the mitch i know" the one time he got some serious pressure on him and looked like a deer in the headlights.

Mitch is an nfl qb, maybe a shitty one, but still an nfl qb. You give them time to throw and they will find the open guy. That being said, I don't think he completed a pass over like 10-12 yards, did he? Sounds like mitch. That works in preseason, won't work in a real game when a team takes away that short pass.
 

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Mitch 100% is the same guy. I was joking to my buddy that "thats the mitch i know" the one time he got some serious pressure on him and looked like a deer in the headlights.

Mitch is an nfl qb, maybe a shitty one, but still an nfl qb. You give them time to throw and they will find the open guy. That being said, I don't think he completed a pass over like 10-12 yards, did he? Sounds like mitch. That works in preseason, won't work in a real game when a team takes away that short pass.
Lol….Mitch is where he belongs….a 2nd string quarterback that can learn from a very good quarterback. I’m not worried about Mitch or the Bills for that matter….well not until next season when the Bills return to Soldier Field for an ass whopping from Justin Fields. And if Mitch were to play against the Bears in the regular season next year…I believe the results will be catastrophic for Mitch.
 

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Spot on again, Remy. It seems like Nagy is hellbent on sitting Fields at least for a little bit, and this game probably helps him validate that decision. Lot of indecision with the football. Missed the blitz pickup. I do have to wonder though if the anticipation would be better playing with better talent. Granted, he's played with Johnson, James, and Adams all camp; but I'd imagine they have inconsistencies which prevents them from being at the top of depth charts so far in their careers. And I wonder if Fields wouldn't have more trust in guys like Robinson, Mooney, Graham and Kmet. Not trying to excuse Fields for holding on the ball too long, because he obviously has to show he can anticipate with the guys he has. If he throws a pick because of it, so be it, these games don't count anyway.
 

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Why would I waste my time on a placeholder QB? I have no interest in assessing his development.
This. It's funny how posters think we have some affinity for Dalton if we say it 'might' be better to give Fields a few games to watch. Never cared for him, even when he was getting voted to pro bowls.
 

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Good review although I will say I think Justins problem yesterday of holding the ball too long was because he stepped into the game already down 34-6 and felt an even bigger need to make big plays to revive the DOA offense .

Take away his 4 rushes for 46 yards and the Bears rbs had 13 rushing attempts and 40 yards for the entire game .
I hope they are just passing this much to get reps for both QBs learning a new system. Would hope in a real game they run a bit more.
 

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I noticed the Bears played Ridley a lot. Test to see how good he can be? Didn't notice him much...
 

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I think they have already decided that Wims is out and are playing Ridley to decide his fate
I sure hope someone has already beat out Wims. Ridley did not impress me either, but have not seen much of Byrd or Goodwin...
 

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Good break down on Fields. He has a lot to learn and would benefit from sitting and watching. Course neither I nor most anyone else wants to watch Dalton out there come the regular season. However, if Lazor was at least calling the plays I think Dalton could drive this offense efficiently.

If Nagy calls the plays against the Rams, the defense will eat his lunch.
if Lazor calls the plays against the Rams, Dalton comes up short, but the Bears move the ball and put some points on the Board.
Bears defense will be worn out by the second half and Stat Padford will pick them apart. I could easily see them hang a 40 burger on the Bears. Depending on how inept the offense looks that Sunday night, could determine whether the calls for Fields will be so deafening that Dalton won’t be given the opportunity to have his revenge game against Cincy. I wish there was a way to ask Nagy if he’ll let Lazor call the plays against Cincy, because of his former association with the team. Anytime within the next couple weeks. Just to get it into his and other peoples’ minds. Inception baby.
 
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Well to be fair, some of that is not getting the ball out on time. He had the longest time to throw in college and is taking too long to pull the trigger at times. The pass rush is going to break through eventually if you holding the ball too long.
Idk maybe. I did a quick view I’m sure there’s some of that but on 50% seems like pocket breaks down and he has to ad lib
 

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I noticed the Bears played Ridley a lot. Test to see how good he can be? Didn't notice him much...

I think they have already decided that Wims is out and are playing Ridley to decide his fate

Wims got hurt and at the end of the half and did not return. Ridley played 50 snaps and had 1 catch for 12 years. Please cut both of them.
 

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Idk maybe. I did a quick view I’m sure there’s some of that but on 50% seems like pocket breaks down and he has to ad lib

Well I point out the passes I think he was late to throw so you can watch the video and see if you agree or not.
 

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Now do a breakdown of zach wilson for me.

Why? Are you back to believing he will be the best QB in this class?

1. Before draft - Wilson is a generational talent and the best QB in this class.

2. After Fields was selected - Fields is the most talented QB you have ever seen.

3. After Reports that Wilson was struggling in camp - I no longer think Wilson will be the best QB in this class because the Jets will ruin him.

4. After Fields and Wilson's first start - Like I said Fields is like Tom Brady as a passer and Randal Cunningham as a runner and Wilson just can't succeed with the Jets.

5. After Wilson has a good game against the Pack - Remy please do a breakdown of Wilson because I am back to believing he is the best QB in the this draft class.

Before their careers are over, I am sure you will flip flop repeatedly on the two of them depending on what side of the bed you woke up on. For you I guess it is a difficult choice. Like one day you love Vodka and the next day you love Whiskey.
 

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Why? Are you back to believing he will be the best QB in this class?

1. Before draft - Wilson is a generational talent and the best QB in this class.

2. After Fields was selected - Fields is the most talented QB you have ever seen.

3. After Reports that Wilson was struggling in camp - I no longer think Wilson will be the best QB in this class because the Jets will ruin him.

4. After Fields and Wilson's first start - Like I said Fields is like Tom Brady as a passer and Randal Cunningham as a runner and Wilson just can't succeed with the Jets.

5. After Wilson has a good game against the Pack - Remy please do a breakdown of Wilson because I am back to believing he is the best QB in the this draft class.

Before their careers are over, I am sure you will flip flop repeatedly on the two of them depending on what side of the bed you woke up on. For you I guess it is a difficult choice. Like one day you love Vodka and the next day you love Whiskey.

I never said 1 or 2.

All i said is i like wilson the best of the players in the draft class. I never once disliked fields, I just thought we had no shot at him because he was going to be taken 1/2 at that time. Wasn't really a fan of jones/lance at all.

I was a fan of trask tho, and thus far he looks like dog shit. so there is that.

I still do think the jets will find a way to ruin wilson.
 

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Also, in case you didn't know you are capable of being wrong on a subject, or changing your opinion on a player.

I know its a foreign concept to you.

I still like wilson very much, I do not like the organization he went to. Those are two separate things
 

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Wims got hurt and at the end of the half and did not return. Ridley played 50 snaps and had 1 catch for 12 years. Please cut both of them.
At least Ridley can't say he didn't get a fair shake... he played v. 2's and 3's and didn't show.
 

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At least Ridley can't say he didn't get a fair shake... he played v. 2's and 3's and didn't show.

The coaching staff legit has given him a ton of opportunities....he didn't see much PT in the regular season but thats cause he sucks.

I figure they really do like him, but he's probably just not athletic enough for the nfl. Slow and small dont mix in the nfl.

Pass 1 - Though Fields missed the read on this on. Freeze at 2 seconds and Fields has to realize this play is dead on arrival as there are 3 defenders looking at the side of the field Fields is looking to throw but only 2 WRs. That should let him know that on the other side of the Field he has 3 WRs with 3 defenders. If he had checked the other side, he would have seen a guy in the middle of the field open for 5 or 6 yards.

Pass 2 - Freeze this again and 87 is open a bit shorter than Lacy but with more space to run. So probably should have thrown it to him and let him run for the first rather than throwing it tight to Lacy.

Run 1 - He has the TE in space again but holds on the ball a bit too long then has to bail the pocket and run. Gotta pull the trigger on that.

Pass 3 - Money throw and PI on the defender who had an arm bar on Ridley. However, Ridley sort of drifts to the sideline instead of attacking the ball which is part of the reason I think the ref didn't make the call. This was weak effort by Ridley and he really has no business being on the team.

Pass 4 - Thought this was on where Fields should have scrambled to create an opp as even if he completes the pass, too many defenders to get a first. 24 is also open with more space to run albeit on a shorter route.

Pass 5 - Roll out limits his opens so made the right read here.

Pass 6 - Great read and throw but Adams drops it. This one where Adams needs to understand the situation and that he already has the first. He is worrying about running after the catch instead of being content with the chains moving, securing the catch and getting down.

Run 2 - Freeze at 1:17 and Fields should have read that the LB 48 is flat footed and that RB 24 has a one on one and can get over the top of him. Need to throw with a bit more anticipating here but waits a tick to late and instead has to scramble for the first. As it is 4th down, maybe he felt it was too risky to that that shot but depending on how quickly the S that broke to the middle reacts, this is a possible TD pass if he hits it.

Pass 7 - Fields is going to revitalize James career. Beautiful route and throw and this is probably a TD if Fields does lead James a bit too much but can't really complain about this.

Run 3 - Runs for the first here but probably had a window for 46 initially but can't complain about the result.

Pass 8 - Everyone follows Lacy which means Fields should now that the TE should be open in middle of the Field but never checks him before the pressure gets to him. Thinks he is trying to throw this away but almost leave it hanging for a pick.

Pass 9 - This is probably a TD if James times the jump right and actually jumps properly but he is a bit out of sync here and it goes over his head.

Pass 10 - Fields just sails this one. Although not a great read as too many guys on the TE and he has Ridley one on one on although not sure what kind of route Ridley is running.

Run 4 - Nothing there so a great scramble for the first.

Big Hit - Fields and the C fail to check the D prior to the snap and miss the Defender sneaking up. He has to read that and know to get rid of the ball.

Pass 11 - Nothing here and so Fields throws it away.

Pass 12 - Maybe could have thrown this a bit more to the sideline but Johnson has to make this catch.

Pass 13 - This is another pass where with a bit of anticipation he should throw this early as James is about to beat his man. However, he waits a tick too long and the pocket collapse.

Pass 14 - Again Fields is a tick too late to read the pass to the slot WR and has to come off it and check it down.

Pass 15 - Good read and throw here adding a little Mahomes jump pass.

Pass 16 - Nice evasion and safe throw.

Pass 17 - Good movement in the pocket and good pass to the TE.

Pass 18 - This is the play that shows how quickly Fields learns. Similar blitz as the big hit but this time with a CB but Fields makes sure to get rid of the ball a lot quicker this time.

Pass 19 - Feels the pressure and evades the rush and then wisely gets rid of the ball.

Run 5 - Fields does a nice job evading the blitz but this is one where he problem should now look downfield as he had created space for himself. Instead he runs it for minimal gain.

Sack 1 - Probably his worse attempted scramble as he should of scrambled outside to his right but tries to take it up the middle.

Pass 20 - Nice movement but has to checkdown for minimal yards'

Pass 21 - Not a great pass but the TE should have made a better play on the ball. Seems they are worried about getting hit.

Pass 22 - Has to scramble and throw short of the market on 4th down.

BTW, pass 4 looked like a throw away to me when I was at the game.
 

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