Fields vs Williams comparison

[knoxville7]

Regardless of all that, he’s still a ROOKIE, and they are still NFL defenses he’s facing. Every single one of them are better than any he faced in college, by orders of magnitude.

The worst defense in the NFL, would be hands down, the best defense in college, by a wide margin.

The qualifiers come from fans and talking heads that have never played at the highest of levels the sport. But the ones with NFL experience, whether it’s former players, or former coaches, see his last 3 games as impressive, all things considered.

Yes, but you also have to consider that this is the best offensive line and set of WR’s and RB’s he’s ever had at his disposal too then

 

[remydat]

As good as Fields has looked this year, I dont think there is a GM in the NFL who takes him over Williams. The simple reality is Williams already looks better between the ears as a rookie than Fields did in 3 years here.

Both are good dudes so hopefully Fields can find a more permanent home with the Steelers and Williams can have a HoF career with the Bears.

 

[Chicago4Life]

3 more games for fields to play start to finish to secure 51%

 

[Zero2Cool]

I've seen some series with Caleb. He seems to be improving week to week. That's a good sign. I can't say I noticed much improvement with Fields. It was more so just flashes of awesome them fizzle. Caleb seems to be steady getting better. Bears finally might have a QB. Long season though.

Jaguars are such a crap show team. Can't control who ya play, but damn. Almost as crappy as Cardinals.

 

[didshereallysaythat]

I've seen some series with Caleb. He seems to be improving week to week. That's a good sign. I can't say I noticed much improvement with Fields. It was more so just flashes of awesome them fizzle. Caleb seems to be steady getting better. Bears finally might have a QB. Long season though.

Jaguars are such a crap show team. Can't control who ya play, but damn. Almost as crappy as Cardinals.

Both the Jags and Cardinals are fucking soft like Charmin. BTW, I knew the Cardinals would get blown out the second that dome team had to play in a little drizzle.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Best game yet!

Thanks for caring what I think!!

I do look forward to him playing like this against a good defense and not one that is bottom of the barrel in pass D

I always care.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Williams is the better QB

But Fields is also a RB soooooooo……..

QB + RB =

 

[DefNextYear]

Williams. Watched the Redskins today and was impressed with Daniels as well. Kingsbury is running a nice O there. Guys getting open etc. I wonder if it will still be that way towards the end of the year once his tendencies become more apparent. I expects things to get a bit less easy for Daniels later in the year but for him to continue to do well.

I’m not sure when, but I do expect the same. I could see that becoming a sophomore year slump thing though when teams have an offseason to digest it. Ravens have been trash, but they should know how to stop a guy like Daniels and didn’t really seem very effective. Feels like teams need more time.

 

[Bearly]

I’m not sure when, but I do expect the same. I could see that becoming a sophomore year slump thing though when teams have an offseason to digest it. Ravens have been trash, but they should know how to stop a guy like Daniels and didn’t really seem very effective. Feels like teams need more time.

Daniels may also be able to adjust by the time D's catch up as well. He does look VG.

 

[knoxville7]

I always care.

not true!! if you did actually care what i think, you would change your profile picture from that nasty a$$ foot already!

 

[PrideisBears]

@BaBaBlacksheep pls assist me in preventing @greg23 from going off topic. If Fields is discussed in any thread please bar him from it

 

[ursamajor]

Yes, but you also have to consider that this is the best offensive line and set of WR’s and RB’s he’s ever had at his disposal too then

Well yes, obviously.

But the worst defense in the NFL and the best defense in the NFL are a hell of a lot closer to each other, than the best defense in college football, and the worst defense in the NFL.

The truth is, the difference, talent wise between the winner of the Super Bowl and the team that earns the #1 overall pick, is 1 to 2 players on each side of the ball.

 

[HSBOB]

Agreed. Fields feels like a Wildcat or a backup. You just can't rely on his arm. Good accuracy there...to the Raiders. Gets that signature Steeler roughing the passer to bail him out. I hope Wilson gets in so I can watch his career end.

If he wasn't bailed-out, then what? His 2nd int of the season?

 

[HSBOB]

As good as Fields has looked this year, I dont think there is a GM in the NFL who takes him over Williams. The simple reality is Williams already looks better between the ears as a rookie than Fields did in 3 years here. Both are good dudes so hopefully Fields can find a more permanent home with the Steelers and Williams can have a HoF career with the Bears.

To your 1st sentence........Without question. CW's starting to take full advantage of his two PB RW's,his brilliant rookie WR,his STUD TE and the explosive production of his recently added RB Swift and more than likely much better than JF would have. JF HAS been a game manager type starter with good wheels and with a severely banged-up,sub-par O-line and only one NFL caliber WR when he feels like running routes. JF might end-up only being a game manager type starter with good wheels too,but at 25,isn't improvement also possible?

 

[msadows]

But Fields is also a RB soooooooo……..

QB + RB =

Shoulda just kept both and put fields at RB.

How is the NFL gonna stop a RB who can throw too?!?!?

 

[msadows]

To your 1st sentence........Without question. CW's starting to take full advantage of his two PB RW's,his brilliant rookie WR,his STUD TE and the explosive production of his recently added RB Swift and more than likely much better than JF would have. JF HAS been a game manager type starter with good wheels and with a severely banged-up,sub-par O-line and only one NFL caliber WR when he feels like running routes. JF might end-up only being a game manager type starter with good wheels too,but at 25,isn't improvement also possible?

I love fields but he doesnt process/see the field at an NFL level.

This isn't the mitch scenario where it was clear the guy lacked talent, fields has a ton of talent, he just cant play QB at the NFL level and likely will never mentally get to the point where he can at a high level.

When he sees a guy open and throws it confidently he's a very accurate passer, the problem is seeing that open guy lol. Caleb in week 6 already sees the field better than justin ever will in his career. You cant teach that kinda vision, you're basically born with it.

 

[TheEarlofRobin]

I thought Fields was going to be given the Kordell Stewart treatment at Pittsburgh. He's been better than expected, but its hard to think of a guy as the long-term QB solution when he can't complete two passes in a row.

 

[HSBOB]

I love fields but he doesnt process/see the field at an NFL level. This isn't the mitch scenario where it was clear the guy lacked talent, fields has a ton of talent, he just cant play QB at the NFL level and likely will never mentally get to the point where he can at a high level. When he sees a guy open and throws it confidently he's a very accurate passer, the problem is seeing that open guy lol. Caleb in week 6 already sees the field better than justin ever will in his career. You cant teach that kinda vision, you're basically born with it.

I can't argue with any of that,but the question for Mike Tomlin and the Steelers Org is......can he improve on his weaknesses @25? We do see QB's in their late 20's become very good starters after unimpressive starts to their careers.

 

[ursamajor]

Problem is he just can't seem to throw very well. He's a game manager with a great set of wheels. it will work but I don't know for how long. Feels like they're going to have to try Wilson at some point this season.

Based on what? Mike Tomlin does not see himself as a QB savant. He does not have his entire identity as a HC, wrapped up in the QB. He sees himself as the coach of the ENTIRE TEAM. He gives zero fucks if Fields throws a football for a TD, hands the ball off for a TD, or runs it himself, for a TD. All he cares about, is the TD.

The Steelers have an identity as a team. Fields fits that identity. If the offense scores 25+ points, and controls TOP, to Tomlin it means fuck-all if Fields throws for 120 yards, or 300+ yards.

And teammates love Justin. I can’t say how the Steelers’ locker room feels about Russ, but he was not well liked in Seattle or Denver.

As for the 4th over 6th, only someone who dabbles in smoking rock, would think that saving a 4th round pick would cause Tomlin to meddle in what has been a winning formula, and a tie for the division lead, in Pittsburgh.

Denver is paying Russ’ salary to ride pine, not Pittsburgh.

 

[Toast88]

Fields is the exact same QB he's always been, albeit with a better coaching staff.

Extremely talented.
Elite runner.
Wildly inconsistent overall QB.
Sub-par passer.
Lack of ability to read the field or go through progressions.
Enough "wow" plays to keep you thinking mayyybeeee he can put it together.

Here's to hoping he continues playing well enough to keep Russell Wilson on the bench. I suspect no matter what happens over the course of the next few weeks, Fields will have a long career in this league, at least as long as his legs hold up.